NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[bksballer89]

Not a terrible contract, they need to start thinking long term though

Im sure they are. Depending on what they do in free agency at WR, they may still go QB in round 1

 

[Wamu]

Possibly the biggest douchbag ever to coach.

This fella's still a bigger douchebag.



And he eats his own boogers.

 

[dtgold88]

So Baker Mayfield to Atlanta

I've heard they want Mariotta?

 

[dtgold88]

Seattle.

Mariota to ATL.

Or wait it out and see if anyone loses a starter in camp.

 

[fightinfunbags]

 

[bksballer89]

 

[DJ Fieri]

Im sure they are. Depending on what they do in free agency at WR, they may still go QB in round 1

They should nab a QB next draft, this one isn't that good for signal callers.

 

[DJ Fieri]

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[DJ Fieri]

Pusha T doing a diss track for Arby's

That wasn't on my 2022 scorecard....LOL

 

[shopson67]

Im sure they are. Depending on what they do in free agency at WR, they may still go QB in round 1

Not a ton left at WR in FA. A lot of fading vets.

 

[Black Adam]

Not a ton left at WR in FA. A lot of fading vets.

Yup, which is why I'm glad we got JuJu.plus I understand there'll be quite a few prospects in the upcoming draft...

 

[Batman]

So, what is the vibe in Ohio in re to Watson?

One, two, three women could be brushed off as unfounded accusations.

22 is a fucking epidemic.

With that being said, there is no amount of money that I would take to not cooperate in his prosecution.

But, I don't get to judge these women, I wasn't there.

On the same note, Ben Rothlisberger, Kobe Bryant, Mike Tyson all got to continue their careers.

So, it is what it is.

I don't live in Ohio anymore but I keep in touch and frequent some fan sites.

There's a small % that say they're done with the Browns. They acknowledge that its an NFL wide issue but they say they just can't root for a team that seeks out a sexual offender to be the face of the franchise.

There's a small % on the other side that says they don't give one shit what a player does off the field. Winning is all that matters. If he brings us deep playoff runs, I'll be on cloud nine and wear his jersey. Every team has a couple scumbags.

The vast majority fall into the middle. They will still root for the Browns , at least for now.
I see this group divided into about 3 sub-catagories:

1) I Can Be A Browns Fan And Not A Watson Fan---
I won't buy Watson jerseys or root for him but I'll root for my team.

2) Wait And See On The Proof---
Not sure of Watson's guilt. If more info comes out in the civil cases that prove guilt, Browns have to dump Watson or I will quit being a Browns fan.

3) Wait And See On Watson---
Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. Watson needs to stay out of trouble, donate to women's causes, make amends, etc. Otherwise, Browns need to dump him or I will stop supporting team until they do.

There is a general feeling that, right or wrong, in the NFL, 'Winning covers a multitude of sins'.

 

[shopson67]

Guilty in the court of public opinion regardless of the outcome. The cost of fame I guess...

 

[trojanfan12]

Guilty in the court of public opinion regardless of the outcome. The cost of fame I guess...

Seems like a really weird case, imo.

I have a very difficult time believing that 22 women got together and decided to try to get a bunch of money from him with false accusations and lawsuits.

On the other hand, it seems odd that there are 22 accusers and they couldn't come up with enough evidence to go to trial.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Seems like a really weird case, imo.

I have a very difficult time believing that 22 women got together and decided to try to get a bunch of money from him with false accusations and lawsuits.

On the other hand, it seems odd that there are 22 accusers and they couldn't come up with enough evidence to go to trial.

I don’t want to get too political here but this is a product of the nature of a sexual assault charge. It’s often going to come down to a he said she said sort of thing. Overall, innocent until proven guilty is the best standard to employ but on this particular crime we have a blind spot (they exist in every system). Very few accusations of sexual assault will even result in charges let alone convictions. That’s why r*pe is one of the most under-reported crimes in America and I don’t blame a victim. She’s going to be raked over the coals for an unlikely outcome to begin with.

 

[Wamu]

I don't live in Ohio anymore but I keep in touch and frequent some fan sites.

There's a small % that say they're done with the Browns. They acknowledge that its an NFL wide issue but they say they just can't root for a team that seeks out a sexual offender to be the face of the franchise.

There's a small % on the other side that says they don't give one shit what a player does off the field. Winning is all that matters. If he brings us deep playoff runs, I'll be on cloud nine and wear his jersey. Every team has a couple scumbags.

The vast majority fall into the middle. They will still root for the Browns , at least for now.
I see this group divided into about 3 sub-catagories:

1) I Can Be A Browns Fan And Not A Watson Fan---
I won't buy Watson jerseys or root for him but I'll root for my team.

2) Wait And See On The Proof---
Not sure of Watson's guilt. If more info comes out in the civil cases that prove guilt, Browns have to dump Watson or I will quit being a Browns fan.

3) Wait And See On Watson---
Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. Watson needs to stay out of trouble, donate to women's causes, make amends, etc. Otherwise, Browns need to dump him or I will stop supporting team until they do.

There is a general feeling that, right or wrong, in the NFL, 'Winning covers a multitude of sins'.

I'm in the first category. Minus the jersey. Never had one. And don't plan on getting one. But I can't root for Watson.

 

[Wamu]

Guilty in the court of public opinion regardless of the outcome. The cost of fame I guess...

Anyone that has that many accusations against him has to be a scumbag.

 

[dtgold88]

I don't live in Ohio anymore but I keep in touch and frequent some fan sites.

There's a small % that say they're done with the Browns. They acknowledge that its an NFL wide issue but they say they just can't root for a team that seeks out a sexual offender to be the face of the franchise.

There's a small % on the other side that says they don't give one shit what a player does off the field. Winning is all that matters. If he brings us deep playoff runs, I'll be on cloud nine and wear his jersey. Every team has a couple scumbags.

The vast majority fall into the middle. They will still root for the Browns , at least for now.
I see this group divided into about 3 sub-catagories:

1) I Can Be A Browns Fan And Not A Watson Fan---
I won't buy Watson jerseys or root for him but I'll root for my team.

2) Wait And See On The Proof---
Not sure of Watson's guilt. If more info comes out in the civil cases that prove guilt, Browns have to dump Watson or I will quit being a Browns fan.

3) Wait And See On Watson---
Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. Watson needs to stay out of trouble, donate to women's causes, make amends, etc. Otherwise, Browns need to dump him or I will stop supporting team until they do.

There is a general feeling that, right or wrong, in the NFL, 'Winning covers a multitude of sins'.

I like the breakdown......I'd say of the fan sites I frequent nearly 100% of the Baker Bitchers/Bashers are all for the move. They assume Watson did nothing wrong. The extreme Baker fanboys are against it.

 

[dtgold88]

Seems like a really weird case, imo.

I have a very difficult time believing that 22 women got together and decided to try to get a bunch of money from him with false accusations and lawsuits.

On the other hand, it seems odd that there are 22 accusers and they couldn't come up with enough evidence to go to trial.

Certainly possible the atty just contacted everyone who had Watson as a client at any time and said, "hey, has he ever done anything inappropriate to you? Might be a lot of money in it for you if he did."

Will say the no evidence thing does not mean he didn't do it, of course. would imagine often hard to have evidence in a he said she said...even 22 of them.

 

[Batman]

I was born in Northern Ohio and spent a few decades there.
I drifted away from the NFL in the last few years and I was never a big Browns fan.

That said, I think diehard Browns fans are in a tough spot.
Deshaun Watson gives real hope to a passionate fanbase that is due for a little success.

QB's are crucial to NFL success and Cleveland is where QB's go to die.
Now they have a stud...and a chance to contend for years.

I can't blame fans who won't stomach Watson and back off their fandom.
But I also can't blame fans who just wanna watch some winning Browns football without having to justify their morality.