NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[Heatles84]

So teams with multiple players missing on offense should now be expected not to score a single point? Got it

No, I think the general consensus is Brady had a shit game, not one person is making an excuse for him. Saints had a great game plan on defense and executed. Calling Brady a bum though is probably not the best opinion though.

 

[Heatles84]

Brady may win the MVP at the age of 44. I couldn't imagine calling him a bum...and this is coming from a Dolphins fan who cheered against Brady for 20 years.

 

[bksballer89]

No, I think the general consensus is Brady had a shit game, not one person is making an excuse for him. Saints had a great game plan on defense and executed. Calling Brady a bum though is probably not the best opinion though.

Not calling him a bum by any stretch. Just more saying injuries isn't a good excuse to not score a single point.Saints defense always been a bad matchup for him since coming to tampa and people need to realize that. They can get pressure with their front 4 and the secondary do a decent job of covering the bucs weapons

 

[Raw_Bee808]

 

[bksballer89]

Brady may win the MVP at the age of 44. I couldn't imagine calling him a bum...and this is coming from a Dolphins fan who cheered against Brady for 20 years.

I am not calling him a bum. To make my point clear, I just think the injury excuse when you don't score a single point is lame. Bucs throw out that same group next week and they are going to score at least 20 points. People are hanging on the injury excuse instead of realizing the saints defense is a bad matchup for tom

 

[Raw_Bee808]

 

[bksballer89]

i know...yeesh.

the Saints played a great game and beat the Bucs

the Lions also man handled the Cardinals.

Tom Brady might win the MVP this year. Guys have bad games- especially when they dont have any receivers. Saints defense played amazing but I dont think the big picture of either team has changed going forward.

Yep all that had to be said. Saints haven't had any receivers all year and they are still in the playoffs race. Sean Payton deserves some votes for COY if they somehow sneak in

 

[WiggyRuss]

The Browns starting tackles should be Jedrick Wills and Jack Conklin.

Jedrick Wills has Covid and Jack Conklin is hurt.

The Browns best backup tackle, Chris Hubbard is injured

the Browns 2nd best backup tackle, James Hudson has Covid.


the point being

I do not know who is playing either tackle position for the Browns in 6 hours. Maybe that dude that met Baker before the Steelers playoff game last year?

 

[tlance]

Tom brady isn't as good as we think if he can't score a single point due to injuries. Trevor Sieman even led the Saints to points with multiple players out on the offense

He is though.

He isn’t the most physically gifted QB by a long shot.

But he is the smartest and best at getting the ball where it needs to go to keep the offense moving.

So what if 44 year Brady can’t score on a very good defense without his best 3 playmakers.

He still has my vote for MVP. Nobody else nearly as deserving IMO.

 

[tlance]

Also i get fournette is the bucs lead back but Ronald Jones isn't some bum. The Bucs didn't do anything on the ground until Jones got his touches. Fournette had 9 for 34 and Jones had 8 for 63

Jones is the better runner.

Fournette is better at everything else by a good bit. Better receiver, pass protection, etc.

There is a reason why Fournette has a stranglehold on the position despite the fact that the other guy has electric talent. Fournette is a much better football player.

 

[tlance]

All I know is the Bucs are not going into Lambeau and winning this year

I would pick the Packers if I had too in Lambeau, but if both teams are healthy the Bucs are the best team in the NFC, IMO.

So would be pretty foolish to rule out the possibility of them beating Green Bay at Lambeau. Green Bay isn’t perfect either.

 

[bksballer89]

He is though.

He isn’t the most physically gifted QB by a long shot.

But he is the smartest and best at getting the ball where it needs to go to keep the offense moving.

So what if 44 year Brady can’t score on a very good defense without his best 3 playmakers.

He still has my vote for MVP. Nobody else nearly as deserving IMO.

Jonathan Taylor for me

 

[Wamu]

So teams with multiple players missing on offense should now be expected not to score a single point? Got it

Time to back your bullshit up. Where exactly did I say anything like that? You've already mentioned your team was without some starters. That's legit. But the Bucs injuries in your odd world aren't valid.

You homer more than you either realize or will admit. It just a week or so ago you said Herro's without a doubt the second best player from his draft class.

Here's yet another example of your homeirsm. When I listed Darius Garland's number, which are just about equal to Herro's while playing for a bad team, you ignored them.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Time to back your bullshit up. Where exactly did I say anything like that? You've already mentioned your team was without some starters. That's legit. But the Bucs injuries in your odd world aren't valid.

You homer more than you either realize or will admit. It just a week or so ago you said Herro's without a doubt the second best player from his draft class.

Here's yet another example of your homeirsm. When I listed Darius Garland's number, which are just about equal to Herro's while playing for a bad team, you ignored them.

he definitely never said that Herro was without a doubt the second best player in his draft class.

that is patently false. I specifically remember. He posted something that stated "is it time to start talking about [it]"

 

[Raw_Bee808]

 

[Raw_Bee808]

 

[bksballer89]

he definitely never said that Herro was without a doubt the second best player in his draft class.

that is patently false. I specifically remember. He posted something that stated "is it time to start talking about [it]"

Yep i posted a tweet about it. Even said i didn't debate cavs fans who think Garland is better because i can see both sides

 

[bksballer89]

No surprise. If the bucs dont care about bye week then this is the right move for all of them. Light schedule to end the season. Host a home playoffs game and go on from there

 

[Wamu]

he definitely never said that Herro was without a doubt the second best player in his draft class.

that is patently false. I specifically remember. He posted something that stated "is it time to start talking about [it]"

You think I'm gonna believe anything you say?

You're the person that said LeBron's legacy is ruined because he couldn't get an injured Lakers squad to the playoffs his first year in Los Angeles.

Steph's the most overrated league MVP of all time right?

Remember when you said the Cavs would turn things around before the Heat?

Remember when you said Riley lost his fastball?

Those last three questions are all things you've said multiple times.

You're a bullshit artist.

 

[bksballer89]

Washington and Philly with the same schedule to end the season.

2 games vs each other then 1 game vs Dallas and NY

Looks like the final spot will come down to those 2, the Saints, and Vikings