NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[fightinfunbags]

Agree, this is why I think a floor is the most reasonable solution. Plus I don't think a cap or ceiling is realistic. This will force these cheap owners to spend. The Dolans are trash, you buy a franchise and then don't spend. They spent in the 90's but it was just different back then and now with the lack of tv deals they won't spend at all.
If they do move to a floor, I would think they need some sort of majority from owners? Why would the rich owners agree to this if they can spend more, cheap owners don't want to spend so I am not sure how that will work either.

This is why I’m lobbying for retraction. There’s no reason to have a team in Cincinnati and a team in Cleveland. I know I’m not local and I may have just spoken some blasphemy here. In the modern game both cities limit the TV potential of each other. It’s like mutually assured destruction that handcuffs both franchises.

Let’s have a winner take all Baseball Hunger Games. Cincinnati vs Cleveland for the right to stick around. Play a 13 game series or some shit. The loser and the assets get swallowed up into one franchise. It may even be tenable to split the 81 home dates for both stadiums and you still have two venues that can generate concert revenue.

But a tv market that envelopes all of Ohio and into Kentucky Tennessee Indiana could be competitive with salaries.

 

[The Q]

Then the smaller markets should push for it like the NBA did.

They don’t want to spend 260m when they can get away spending 90m

 

[Black Adam]

This is why I’m lobbying for retraction. There’s no reason to have a team in Cincinnati and a team in Cleveland. I know I’m not local and I may have just spoken some blasphemy here. In the modern game both cities limit the TV potential of each other. It’s like mutually assured destruction that handcuffs both franchises.

Let’s have a winner take all Baseball Hunger Games. Cincinnati vs Cleveland for the right to stick around. Play a 13 game series or some shit. The loser and the assets get swallowed up into one franchise. It may even be tenable to split the 81 home dates for both stadiums and you still have two venues that can generate concert revenue.

But a tv market that envelopes all of Ohio and into Kentucky Tennessee Indiana could be competitive with salaries.

I hear what you're saying, but I highly doubt that toothpaste is gonna get put back in the tube...

All about the dollars...

 

[fightinfunbags]

I hear what you're saying, but I highly doubt that toothpaste is gonna get put back in the tube...

All about the dollars...

For the points @Stakesarehigh is making today about the state of the sport and other reasons baseball is the major sport that should consider it. Look at what Ted Turner was able to do with TV to make the Braves into a real draw in an absolutely garbage pro sports market? Sports economics now is entirely about TV markets.

 

[The Q]

This is why I’m lobbying for retraction. There’s no reason to have a team in Cincinnati and a team in Cleveland. I know I’m not local and I may have just spoken some blasphemy here. In the modern game both cities limit the TV potential of each other. It’s like mutually assured destruction that handcuffs both franchises.

Let’s have a winner take all Baseball Hunger Games. Cincinnati vs Cleveland for the right to stick around. Play a 13 game series or some shit. The loser and the assets get swallowed up into one franchise. It may even be tenable to split the 81 home dates for both stadiums and you still have two venues that can generate concert revenue.

But a tv market that envelopes all of Ohio and into Kentucky Tennessee Indiana could be competitive with salaries.

the leases on stadiums make this challenging long term.

But yes, the decline in midwestern city population is the bigger challenge.

 

[The Q]

It should also be noted that the dodgers had a unique financial advantage with SO and Yamamoto. They could get more out of the deal than most teams, if not all.

 

[fightinfunbags]

It should also be noted that the dodgers had a unique financial advantage with SO and Yamamoto. They could get more out of the deal than most teams, if not all.

Yep! Great international revenue stream.

 

[thunderc]

Take the money out of it. Dodgers needed pitching, especially with all their injuries to the rotation, and are getting it. Plus they had the opportunity to add the best player in the game. Should they not?

Time will tell, but it’s pretty much a guarantee that anything over 500 million they were bidding against themselves.

 

[thunderc]

This is why I’m lobbying for retraction. There’s no reason to have a team in Cincinnati and a team in Cleveland. I know I’m not local and I may have just spoken some blasphemy here. In the modern game both cities limit the TV potential of each other. It’s like mutually assured destruction that handcuffs both franchises.

Let’s have a winner take all Baseball Hunger Games. Cincinnati vs Cleveland for the right to stick around. Play a 13 game series or some shit. The loser and the assets get swallowed up into one franchise. It may even be tenable to split the 81 home dates for both stadiums and you still have two venues that can generate concert revenue.

But a tv market that envelopes all of Ohio and into Kentucky Tennessee Indiana could be competitive with salaries.

Definite blasphemy

 

[msgkings322]

Why? They’re committed to putting the best product on the field. You’re just angry because your team could never. WTF is an Asian guy gonna do in Cleveland, Ohio? How many times can you go to the Rock and Rorr Harr of Fame?

But I laughed...

 

[trojanfan12]

Time will tell, but it’s pretty much a guarantee that anything over 500 million they were bidding against themselves.

If you're talking about Ohtani, he presented the same deal to 5 teams and all of them said yes.

Doesn't sound much like bidding against themselves.

 

[Wamu]

From the AP.

meeeechegan receives notice of allegations from NCAA related to recruiting and impermissible coaching

ooppss

 

[Black Adam]

From the AP.

meeeechegan receives notice of allegations from NCAA related to recruiting and impermissible coaching

ooppss

Definitely a whoopsie there lol...

 

[Wamu]

Definitely a whoopsie there lol...

No doubt about it. It'll be interesting to see what the NCAA does.

 

[msgkings322]

If you're talking about Ohtani, he presented the same deal to 5 teams and all of them said yes.

Doesn't sound much like bidding against themselves.

And with Yamamoto I'm fairly sure all the suitors were willing to pay the 300+ million. Like Ohtani he chose where he wanted to play, got recruited by Ohtani, and picked the obvious spot. West Coast, glamour city, guaranteed playoffs every year, pitcher's park, and Ohtani. How could he not go there?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

For the points @Stakesarehigh is making today about the state of the sport and other reasons baseball is the major sport that should consider it. Look at what Ted Turner was able to do with TV to make the Braves into a real draw in an absolutely garbage pro sports market? Sports economics now is entirely about TV markets.

for baseball especially given the lack of a shared revenue system with TV

If any sport does contract it will be baseball.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

and what's crazy about that is that the players union can't see those kind of issues on a horizon.

That's jobs for their base

 

[trojanfan12]

From the AP.

meeeechegan receives notice of allegations from NCAA related to recruiting and impermissible coaching

ooppss

Yeah, according to what they were saying yesterday it's about "Cheeseburgergate" from the pandemic.

 

[The Q]

for baseball especially given the lack of a shared revenue system with TV

If any sport does contract it will be baseball.

Shared revenue for teams on league wide contracts are already over $100m


Teams don’t even spend that

 

[thunderc]

If you're talking about Ohtani, he presented the same deal to 5 teams and all of them said yes.

Doesn't sound much like bidding against themselves.

Not saying it’s not true but I haven’t seen that anywhere