Series Thread: NBA Finals: Toronto Raptors vs Golden State Warriors

[msgkings322]

And if we're being honest, Warriors been winning games in the playoffs because of their offense while Toronto been winning games with defense.

I don't think anyone been watching these playoffs and think man this Warrior defense is amazing because it isn't.

They will have stretches where they are great but playing a half of really good defense doesn't make you a top 2 defense in the playoffs.

They're winning games because of their offense and that's what is likely going to get them another title.....and there is nothing wrong with that

They shut down arguably the best offense in the game (Rockets) and one of the top 10 (Blazers)

 

[Wamu]

They shut down arguably the best offense in the game (Rockets) and one of the top 10 (Blazers)

Means nothing. The Raptors have the secret weapon in the series.

Spoiler

Patrick McCaw

 

[bksballer89]

They shut down arguably the best offense in the game (Rockets) and one of the top 10 (Blazers)

Outside of game 1, they shutdown the Blazers for a half in the other games.

Playing shitty defense for a half then playing outstanding in the 2nd half doesn't make you a great defensive team.....

Portland avg 66 ppg in the first half from games 2-4.

That's horrible defense

 

[Robotech]

Means nothing. The Raptors have the secret weapon in the series.

Spoiler

Patrick McCaw

McCaw knows the Warriors playbook. Shrewd move by the Raptors to pick him up.

 

[bksballer89]

To be considered a top 2 defense, you need to play good/great defense for 4 quarters consistently.

Not just pick and choose when you want to play defense which is pretty clearly what the Warriors been doing throughout the playoffs which is fine because they still win games because they have the best offense in basketball.

But once again they haven't been close to the best defensive team in the playoffs. Being the best requires consistency which is something the Warriors defense been lacking throughout the playoffs

 

[msgkings322]

Outside of game 1, they shutdown the Blazers for a half in the other games.

Playing shitty defense for a half then playing outstanding in the 2nd half doesn't make you a great defensive team.....

Portland avg 66 ppg in the first half from games 2-4.

That's horrible defense

If it makes you feel better, sure

 

[Wamu]

McCaw knows the Warriors playbook. Shrewd move by the Raptors to pick him up.

Yep. They in trouble now. And it'll be sweet when McCaw hits the game winning shot in game 6 to close Oralce down.

 

[msgkings322]

To be considered a top 2 defense, you need to play good/great defense for 4 quarters consistently.

Not just pick and choose when you want to play defense which is pretty clearly what the Warriors been doing throughout the playoffs which is fine because they still win games because they have the best offense in basketball.

But once again they haven't been close to the best defensive team in the playoffs. Being the best requires consistency which is something the Warriors defense been lacking throughout the playoffs

Sounds like the Warriors do have the best defense and just choose when to apply it. Meaning, they are the best defensive team whenever needed. That's enough for me.

 

[Wamu]

Sounds like the Warriors do have the best defense and just choose when to apply it. Meaning, they are the best defensive team whenever needed. That's enough for me.

Yep just flipping the swtich like that works for teams. Look how it helped the Celtics.

 

[bksballer89]

If it makes you feel better, sure

So allowing 66 points per game in the first half in 3 straight games is now good defense?

 

[Robotech]

Sounds like the Warriors do have the best defense and just choose when to apply it. Meaning, they are the best defensive team whenever needed. That's enough for me.

They have been one of the best rebounding teams, especially on the offensive end. They'll need that to continue.

 

[msgkings322]

Yep just flipping the swtich like that works for teams. Look how it helped the Celtics.

Yeah the Warriors are probably in big trouble then

 

[msgkings322]

So allowing 66 points per game in the first half in 3 straight games is now good defense?

Nah, you're right. Warriors defense sucks.

 

[bksballer89]

Sounds like the Warriors do have the best defense and just choose when to apply it. Meaning, they are the best defensive team whenever needed. That's enough for me.

Allow 66 points per game in the first half this series and they won't win the title.

Much easier to come back from nearly 20 points when you're playing a middle of the road defense such as Portland

Toronto was a top 5 defense in the regular season and been a top 2 defense in the playoffs.

Coming from 15-20 points vs a great defense is obviously more difficult

 

[tlance]

McCaw knows the Warriors playbook. Shrewd move by the Raptors to pick him up.

Ooh, but he doesn't really.

He knows the KD version. Not the old version.

Also, McCaw would be playing significant minutes if still with GS. He should feel pretty dumb about how this whole thing played out.

 

[Heatles84]

And if we're being honest, Warriors been winning games in the playoffs because of their offense while Toronto been winning games with defense.

I don't think anyone been watching these playoffs and think man this Warrior defense is amazing because it isn't.

They will have stretches where they are great but playing a half of really good defense doesn't make you a top 2 defense in the playoffs.

They're winning games because of their offense and that's what is likely going to get them another title.....and there is nothing wrong with that

Yup. Get your titles however you can.

 

[msgkings322]

Allow 66 points per game in the first half this series and they won't win the title.

Much easier to come back from nearly 20 points when you're playing a middle of the road defense such as Portland

Toronto was a top 5 defense in the regular season and been a top 2 defense in the playoffs.

Coming from 15-20 points vs a great defense is obviously more difficult

Agreed. And the Warriors know that too.

 

[bksballer89]

Nah, you're right. Warriors defense sucks.

Never said that either....learn how to read

 

[Heatles84]

Yep. They in trouble now. And it'll be sweet when McCaw hits the game winning shot in game 6 to close Oralce down.

If that actually happened.....dear god.

 

[bksballer89]

Yup. Get your titles however you can.

I literally said the bold part and dude is still mad because I'm not agreeing with him that they're not a top 2 defensive team in the playoffs lol