Series Thread: M's Homestand: July 19th - 24th

[NWinAZ]

That is a good point, but even Jerry I don’t think could screw up in that type of deal. His big issue is evaluating major league talent and being in love with AAAA prospects and thinking they could be everyday stars. If the Mariners got Jackson Holliday and he flamed out, I would put zero blame on Jerry

Here are the details, according to sources:
• The deal is worth $108 million, with a vesting option that could take the deal to six years and $133 million, triggered for $25 million for 2028 if he pitches at least 180 innings in ‘27.
• Castillo received a $7 million signing bonus, and he’ll earn $10 million next season in what would’ve been his final year of eligibility for salary arbitration. Then, from 2024-27, he’ll earn $22.75 million per season.
• It includes a full no-trade clause for the first three years, and there are no player opt outs at any point during the deal.
• The club option is unique, and it basically gives the Mariners some health protection. It’s for one year and $5 million for 2028 and can only be exercised if Castillo undergoes surgery to repair his UCL (Tommy John surgery) and misses at least 130 days at any point from 2025-27. It’s essentially a safety net for the club should Castillo miss an extended period then return at an elite level before becoming eligible for free agency.
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This is the part I liked:

Why did Castillo want to stay in Seattle long term?

“It’s the camaraderie that’s in here," he said. "I came here with the guys I knew from the Reds. I came here with an open mind and when I got here everybody was a tight group.”

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Winker- Gone!
Suarez- Gone!

 

[ulmax]

This is the problem..
No hits .

Plus. Minor league guys are.not ready..
Even though they are getting thrown
In the fire,..

ok.you can learn what to.
Expect..
With that ...

But at the same time....owners
Are the chencyiest .
Cheap bastards ..ever...

Never getting a free agent ..except
Garver who has not been so good.

So that .is the problem .

 

[ulmax]

That created...a hole..
Right..now .

Between..AA .(and lucky they had a good draft.last year)...

And MLB ..that's a big .hole right now .
Begging for trades.
But at the same time .

Mariners need .those minor league guys...
So..there is nothing.to trade .but.pitching...
And not much of that...to stay.on the
Right trak...

Maybe Castillo..
Maybe miller...


Maybe Colt Emmerson.
Only cuz celesten.is.
At ACL.

That's about it .

 

[ulmax]

It would not do to trade.
The pitching..
For so.-so guys either...top 100..minors.

Or real MLB guys..
Only..Need apply..

No rentals ...they ain't going playoffs..
Prob .

 

[ulmax]

Mariners don't want .don't.need..
Has beens..
They need guys who are good now .
With a future.
In the sport..

No snake oil...peddelers..Mr..

Carpet bagger..

Jose wales..

 

[ulmax]

That created...a hole..
Right..now .

Between..AA .(and lucky they had a good draft.last year)...

And MLB ..that's a big .hole right now .
Begging for trades.
But at the same time .

Mariners need .those minor league guys...
So..there is nothing.to trade .but.pitching...
And not much of that...to stay.on the
Right trak...

Maybe Castillo..
Maybe miller...


Maybe Colt Emmerson.
Only cuz celesten.is.
At ACL.

That's about it .

..

Maybe harry ford .as well.
But I think..a need for a back up.catcher..is still.
Good ..
Mariners still need one ..

So Cal raliegh is not
Stopping.
Harry ford ...
But MLB guys are licking there chops ..anyway..

Don't send .
No..one..who..can't.hit..
MLB.,.

Or there is no point..for mariners trade

 

[ulmax]

Fans may be gitting a new .
Team .if mariners fail..
Again
And again..
And again.

 

[ulmax]

It's no fun..in mariners .land .

Owner s have takin it all ..

No point ..in tuneing.in later .

Batman ..

As the baseball turns..

 

[wazzu31]

If you're Castillo do you even wanna be here though? I sure as hell wouldn't.

No disagreement, but when a player has a full no trade clause it hampers the Mariners in who they can deal with.

 

[wazzu31]

Here are the details, according to sources:
• The deal is worth $108 million, with a vesting option that could take the deal to six years and $133 million, triggered for $25 million for 2028 if he pitches at least 180 innings in ‘27.
• Castillo received a $7 million signing bonus, and he’ll earn $10 million next season in what would’ve been his final year of eligibility for salary arbitration. Then, from 2024-27, he’ll earn $22.75 million per season.
• It includes a full no-trade clause for the first three years, and there are no player opt outs at any point during the deal.
• The club option is unique, and it basically gives the Mariners some health protection. It’s for one year and $5 million for 2028 and can only be exercised if Castillo undergoes surgery to repair his UCL (Tommy John surgery) and misses at least 130 days at any point from 2025-27. It’s essentially a safety net for the club should Castillo miss an extended period then return at an elite level before becoming eligible for free agency.
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This is the part I liked:

Why did Castillo want to stay in Seattle long term?

“It’s the camaraderie that’s in here," he said. "I came here with the guys I knew from the Reds. I came here with an open mind and when I got here everybody was a tight group.”

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Winker- Gone!
Suarez- Gone!

Solid point. But I also think when he signed the extension he/Jerry/fans were under the impression ownership wasn’t going to be cheap. I don’t think he would’ve signed the extension had he waited until the 2024 season.

 

[ulmax]

Sodo.mojo..

Yeah. Suzuki..could help..but I'm not sure.

What they really .needed .was.bellinger.
And keener- falifa..
.when they were free agents.

Last year

..but owners .kibashed...it.
.and so will they..any thing .
They think will..cost more than Penny's.

Seattle's .free agent players..
Garver .
That's it .other than bull pen guy.s

Stanek..
Not maney there either.

 

[ulmax]

Nothing like running.a..team.
Into..
The ground.....just when .they were.
About
Too.
Look.good..

.and taking.the money.and.
Run..

After hand cuffing..your gm..

 

[ulmax]

Sodo mojo .

Now door .1,2,or,3..
And ya get..

Suzuki ..yeah...whatever .

Nothing will help .
.till owners take a diff approach..

 

[ulmax]

Mariners biggest .prob that is unsolvable..
No
3rd or 4th in batting order ..

And Suzuki .won't do ...although..
He is a good player..

No other team..wants to give up.
There guys

Yeah...we git it...

 

[ulmax]

Witch means .they need 2 magor leaguers .
That
Owners won't let .
Happen ...
Cuz they....are cheap..

 

[NWinAZ]

Solid point. But I also think when he signed the extension he/Jerry/fans were under the impression ownership wasn’t going to be cheap. I don’t think he would’ve signed the extension had he waited until the 2024 season.

100%. That was why I posted it. The reasons he gave all went away right after he signed it. His friends were dealt and the team chemistry fell off a cliff. I have a feeling he would waive his no-trade clause even though it has one more year left on it.

 

[NWinAZ]

Texas 1.5 GB of Mariners.

These lyrics come to mind with the Mariners:

Slip slidin' away
Slip slidin' away
You know the nearer your destination
The more you're slip slidin' away

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Texas 1.5 GB of Mariners.

These lyrics come to mind with the Mariners:

Slip slidin' away
Slip slidin' away
You know the nearer your destination
The more you're slip slidin' away

And watch them make no moves before the deadline … I think they probably will, but wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t.. They put themselves in a desperate position now, which can raise the costs ! &@@$ M’s

 

[AceKeptic]

And watch them make no moves before the deadline … I think they probably will, but wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t.. They put themselves in a desperate position now, which can raise the costs ! &@@$ M’s

Yeah, and if it isn't the cost, there's the other risk...

The risk of the new guy setting an example for the rest of 'em by ACTUALLY DOING HIS JOB. Can't have that.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I still vote we need to sacrifice the Moose

Sonics mascot should sacrifice the moose