Money down

[Judge Fudge]

12/9 Next Saturday on Fox

And no Potato Salad. Just pick a winner

 

[Judge Fudge]

Gimme the upset

 

[Ojb81]

*gulp*

 

[PIBuckeye]

Sorry Hoosiers, it’s coming to an end next week.
They haven’t played anyone clise to this talent.

Not coming into the shoe and beating the Buckeyes.

Buckeyes by 10-14

 

[PIBuckeye]

Gimme the upset

It’s two different things
Who do you want to win…
Who do you think will win….

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

Indiana has played the most insanely easy schedule possible.
It is not their fault. They can only play what is scheduled for them, but this might be the easiest schedule in Power 5 history.

It is entirely likely they could make the playoffs having played one team with a winning record and losing.
I will root for them, but this is going to be a byproduct of super conference scheduling going forward.

 

[Gator]

Indiana has played the most insanely easy schedule possible.
It is not their fault. They can only play what is scheduled for them, but this might be the easiest schedule in Power 5 history.

It is entirely likely they could make the playoffs having played one team with a winning record and losing.
I will root for them, but this is going to be a byproduct of super conference scheduling going forward.

The hell it ISN'T their fault!!! In the past 10 season (2015-2024: remember in 2020 their were zero OOC games so actually only 9 seasons OOC)) they have played 28 OOC games . Those games were 100% their scheduling! In those 28 games they scheduled 7 non-FBS teams and 16 G5 teams. Indiana also scheduled 5 P4 teams (Wake Forest x2, Virginia x2, and Louisville 1x). If a decent team shows up on Indiana's OOC it is purely luck. Indiana IS NOT TRYING to schedule ANYONE tough OOC.

 

[PIBuckeye]

The hell it ISN'T their fault!!! In the past 10 season (2015-2024: remember in 2020 their were zero OOC games so actually only 9 seasons OOC)) they have played 28 OOC games . Those games were 100% their scheduling! In those 28 games they scheduled 7 non-FBS teams and 16 G5 teams. Indiana also scheduled 5 P4 teams (Wake Forest x2, Virginia x2, and Louisville 1x). If a decent team shows up on Indiana's OOC it is purely luck. Indiana IS NOT TRYING to schedule ANYONE tough OOC.

lol. love when an SECer brings up the outrage of someone else scheduling a non FBS team. Comical. and Samford says hello.

Ok, that aside. Let's go back further than 10 years, let's go back 30 years. Indiana has been the perennial punching bag of the B1G for decades. they've in the past had a few seasons here and there where they've managed to finish mid pack in the conference, but thats about it but usually near or at the bottom. Scheduling.............. usually scheduling is done many years into the future. but bigger than that right now, Teams and conferences schedules have been pretty much thrown into the trash and been forced to at the last minute put together new schedules with the extensive and radical shakeups in regard to conference realignments. Consider who indiana has been, why the hell would they want to schedule an Oregon, Clemson, bama, GA, or Texas? they are trying to get bowl eligible, that's a success in their eyes.

for OOC games, I've liked what OSU and some others have done. 1. Schedule one tough game (top 25), 2. one mid tier game, often this is a respectable MAC school, and then yes, 1 cream puff. to be honest, I'd love to go down to only 2 OOC games, and pick up another conference game every year.

 

[Gator]

lol. love when an SECer brings up the outrage of someone else scheduling a non FBS team. Comical. and Samford says hello.

There you go again, misleading people with nonsense. At no time did I say that merely playing FCS teams is worthy of ridicule

Here is what I said, "In those 28 games they scheduled 7 non-FBS teams and 16 G5 teams. Indiana also scheduled 5 P4 teams (Wake Forest x2, Virginia x2, and Louisville 1x)."

For the record, in OOC games, my team, Florida, played 8 FCS teams and 12 G5 opponents over the same time span. But, my team also played 13 P4 teams with 6 ranked (FSU x9, Utah x2, Miami x1, and Michigan 1x)

Ok, that aside. Let's go back further than 10 years, let's go back 30 years. Indiana has been the perennial punching bag of the B1G for decades. they've in the past had a few seasons here and there where they've managed to finish mid pack in the conference, but thats about it but usually near or at the bottom. Scheduling.............. usually scheduling is done many years into the future. but bigger than that right now, Teams and conferences schedules have been pretty much thrown into the trash and been forced to at the last minute put together new schedules with the extensive and radical shakeups in regard to conference realignments. Consider who indiana has been, why the hell would they want to schedule an Oregon, Clemson, bama, GA, or Texas? they are trying to get bowl eligible, that's a success in their eyes.

I understand it from Indiana's standpoint but the committee shouldn't reward them for shitty scheduling by ranking them #5. With that schedule they should not be in the top 12.

Indiana hasn't beaten a single team in the top 40. My teams is 5-5 with losses to #3 Texas, #6 Georgia, #10 Miami, # 12 Tennessee, and # 16 Texas A&M. Without those 5 losses my team is 5-0 with a win over #23 LSU. Why should Indiana be #5 and Florida unranked?

In all likelihood, IU will end up 11-1 with ZERO wins of a top 40 team. Their only loss will be to #2 OSU and thus will fall maybe 3 spots and still finish in the top 10. My team will end up 6-6 with all 6 losses to teams currently in the 16. They will be 6-0 vs the other teams including a win over LSU and will be unranked? Why should IU be rewarded for lousy scheduling?

 

[PIBuckeye]

There you go again, misleading people with nonsense. At no time did I say that merely playing FCS teams is worthy of ridicule

Here is what I said, "In those 28 games they scheduled 7 non-FBS teams and 16 G5 teams. Indiana also scheduled 5 P4 teams (Wake Forest x2, Virginia x2, and Louisville 1x)."

For the record, in OOC games, my team, Florida, played 8 FCS teams and 12 G5 opponents over the same time span. But, my team also played 13 P4 teams with 6 ranked (FSU x9, Utah x2, Miami x1, and Michigan 1x)

I understand it from Indiana's standpoint but the committee shouldn't reward them for shitty scheduling by ranking them #5. With that schedule they should not be in the top 12.

Indiana hasn't beaten a single team in the top 40. My teams is 5-5 with losses to #3 Texas, #6 Georgia, #10 Miami, # 12 Tennessee, and # 16 Texas A&M. Without those 5 losses my team is 5-0 with a win over #23 LSU. Why should Indiana be #5 and Florida unranked?

In all likelihood, IU will end up 11-1 with ZERO wins of a top 40 team. Their only loss will be to #2 OSU and thus will fall maybe 3 spots and still finish in the top 10. My team will end up 6-6 with all 6 losses to teams currently in the 16. They will be 6-0 vs the other teams including a win over LSU and will be unranked? Why should IU be rewarded for lousy scheduling?

Well, let's see what happens Saturday. I feel pretty confident that IU will be losing to the Buckeyes on Saturday. I too think they will beat Purdue the following week and end up 11-1. I think OSU will win by 14-17 points. Scheduling can be a tricky thing. you don't want to have a complete cupcake schedule, but you also don't want to be playing 8 top 10 teams. A balance. I'd like to know how the B1G does it. Aside from the teams that each team is locked into playing, how do they do the final 6-7 conf. spots? OSU is locked into playing scUM and PSU every year which is a good thing, and usually guaranteed to play 2 tough teams. are they picked out of a hat? computer pick the rest? In a perfect world, I always wanted to play everyone in the conference, then you have THE answer of who was #1 and who was #12, before the expansion. can't do that now.

Florida is a different program than Indiana. Florida is accustomed to success in CFB, Indiana is not. I truly don't think you can blame Indiana for this situation. people are letting their emotions get in the way of reality. Are people going to respect Indiana if they keep it close and lose by 10 or less? I think the line is 12 1/2.

Maybe Florida is the perfect program to play Indiana this year. I truly think some are disrespecting Indiana now that we are getting towards the end of the season, the music is going to stop, and only so many seats to jump into. I see that Florida has played a lot of ranked teams............. but they've lost them all. What does that say? You don't know that Indiana would have lost all the same games. have you watched them?? they are a different team than they've ever had. I think indiana will get into the playoff at 11-1, they'll play a good team. we'll see.

 

[dtgold88]

Well, let's see what happens Saturday. I feel pretty confident that IU will be losing to the Buckeyes on Saturday. I too think they will beat Purdue the following week and end up 11-1. I think OSU will win by 14-17 points. Scheduling can be a tricky thing. you don't want to have a complete cupcake schedule, but you also don't want to be playing 8 top 10 teams. A balance. I'd like to know how the B1G does it. Aside from the teams that each team is locked into playing, how do they do the final 6-7 conf. spots? OSU is locked into playing scUM and PSU every year which is a good thing, and usually guaranteed to play 2 tough teams. are they picked out of a hat? computer pick the rest? In a perfect world, I always wanted to play everyone in the conference, then you have THE answer of who was #1 and who was #12, before the expansion. can't do that now.

Florida is a different program than Indiana. Florida is accustomed to success in CFB, Indiana is not. I truly don't think you can blame Indiana for this situation. people are letting their emotions get in the way of reality. Are people going to respect Indiana if they keep it close and lose by 10 or less? I think the line is 12 1/2.

Maybe Florida is the perfect program to play Indiana this year. I truly think some are disrespecting Indiana now that we are getting towards the end of the season, the music is going to stop, and only so many seats to jump into. I see that Florida has played a lot of ranked teams............. but they've lost them all. What does that say? You don't know that Indiana would have lost all the same games. have you watched them?? they are a different team than they've ever had. I think indiana will get into the playoff at 11-1, they'll play a good team. we'll see.

I think PSU has been moved from being an automatic opponent for us. Maybe after this season. How they figure out the schedule other than UM, I also have no idea. Guessing they try to make each MW or further East team go out West at least once and maybe host 1 such school (though even that wont be done each season).

No doubt IU has had a cakewalk of a schedule and, yes, the OOC is on them (but agree with you why that might be). To be fair, not their fault teams like Washington, UCLA, MSU and UM have fallen a little or a lot.

Agree with you would like to see the BIG eventually go to only 2 OOC games. If it stays at 3 also agree I like the current schedule model.

 

[Gator]

Well, let's see what happens Saturday. I feel pretty confident that IU will be losing to the Buckeyes on Saturday. I too think they will beat Purdue the following week and end up 11-1. I think OSU will win by 14-17 points. Scheduling can be a tricky thing. you don't want to have a complete cupcake schedule, but you also don't want to be playing 8 top 10 teams. A balance. I'd like to know how the B1G does it. Aside from the teams that each team is locked into playing, how do they do the final 6-7 conf. spots? OSU is locked into playing scUM and PSU every year which is a good thing, and usually guaranteed to play 2 tough teams. are they picked out of a hat? computer pick the rest? In a perfect world, I always wanted to play everyone in the conference, then you have THE answer of who was #1 and who was #12, before the expansion. can't do that now.

Unfortunately, playing everyone in the conference rarely provides THE answer. Even in the event that one team ends up X-0 and the next team is (X-1) - 1 they will meet in the CCG. What if (X-1) - 1 beats X-0, now both are X-1. No matter how many games IN-conference a team plays there will be some doubt.

Florida is a different program than Indiana. Florida is accustomed to success in CFB, Indiana is not. I truly don't think you can blame Indiana for this situation. people are letting their emotions get in the way of reality. Are people going to respect Indiana if they keep it close and lose by 10 or less? I think the line is 12 1/2.

You're giving more credit to Florida than deserved. From 1869 - 1989 UF had the 42nd best W/L record. It is only from 1990 - 2009 (20 seasons) where Florida had the #1 W/L record and played the more ranked opponents than anyone else. From 2010 - 2023 they have the 38th best W/L record. As you folks are fond to remind me - our glory days are in the distant past! The problem is Florida still plays the same tough schedules. Next year's schedule is the SAME as this year but South Florida replaces UCF and Florida A&M replaces Samford.

Maybe Florida is the perfect program to play Indiana this year. I truly think some are disrespecting Indiana now that we are getting towards the end of the season, the music is going to stop, and only so many seats to jump into. I see that Florida has played a lot of ranked teams............. but they've lost them all. What does that say? You don't know that Indiana would have lost all the same games. have you watched them?? they are a different team than they've ever had. I think indiana will get into the playoff at 11-1, they'll play a good team. we'll see.

Sort of like 2022, when 6-6 UF was matched up vs 9-3 Oregon State. Unfortunately, Anthony Richardson opted out of the Bowl, as did starting running back, wide receiver offensive lineman, etc. We also lost our #2 QB to child **** charges! UF had something like 23 players opt-out or enter the portal prior to the Bowl. Result 30-3 blowout.

 

[Gator]

I think PSU has been moved from being an automatic opponent for us. Maybe after this season. How they figure out the schedule other than UM, I also have no idea. Guessing they try to make each MW or further East team go out West at least once and maybe host 1 such school (though even that wont be done each season).

No doubt IU has had a cakewalk of a schedule and, yes, the OOC is on them (but agree with you why that might be). To be fair, not their fault teams like Washington, UCLA, MSU and UM have fallen a little or a lot.

Agree with you would like to see the BIG eventually go to only 2 OOC games. If it stays at 3 also agree I like the current schedule model.

I think nine conference games is enough. It make scheduling easier. With 18 teams, each team has 17 conference opponents. If each team selects ONE permanent opponent, that would leave 16 teams. Each team would play one of two 8-opponents grouping each year. That way everyone plays every team twice every four years. I want two OOC games vs P4 teams.

 

[dtgold88]

Unfortunately, playing everyone in the conference rarely provides THE answer. Even in the event that one team ends up X-0 and the next team is (X-1) - 1 they will meet in the CCG. What if (X-1) - 1 beats X-0, now both are X-1. No matter how many games IN-conference a team plays there will be some doubt.


You're giving more credit to Florida than deserved. From 1869 - 1989 UF had the 42nd best W/L record. It is only from 1990 - 2009 (20 seasons) where Florida had the #1 W/L record and played the more ranked opponents than anyone else. From 2010 - 2023 they have the 38th best W/L record. As you folks are fond to remind me - our glory days are in the distant past! The problem is Florida still plays the same tough schedules. Next year's schedule is the SAME as this year but South Florida replaces UCF and Florida A&M replaces Samford.


Sort of like 2022, when 6-6 UF was matched up vs 9-3 Oregon State. Unfortunately, Anthony Richardson opted out of the Bowl, as did starting running back, wide receiver offensive lineman, etc. UF had something like 23 players opt-out or enter the portal prior to the Bowl. Result 30-3 blowout.

and with these megaconferences now playing everyone just can't happen. Good points about UF.

IF Indiana continues to play this well will they change their OOC scheduling? I guess maybe...but by the time those games get played if they keep winning their coach will move on and they will be back to being the IU we know.

Happen to believe no lock we win this one....but we should,.

 

[PIBuckeye]

I think PSU has been moved from being an automatic opponent for us. Maybe after this season. How they figure out the schedule other than UM, I also have no idea. Guessing they try to make each MW or further East team go out West at least once and maybe host 1 such school (though even that wont be done each season).

No doubt IU has had a cakewalk of a schedule and, yes, the OOC is on them (but agree with you why that might be). To be fair, not their fault teams like Washington, UCLA, MSU and UM have fallen a little or a lot.

Agree with you would like to see the BIG eventually go to only 2 OOC games. If it stays at 3 also agree I like the current schedule model.

well that sucks. I think it was a good thing to be locked into playing PSU every year. really like for the B1G to come out and be transparent in telling people how they choose all the teams opponents.

I think IU is taking more crap than they deserve right now.

It would be nice if certain teams in the B1G would get their shit together so there is a strong middle pack of the conference. I'm looking at you Wisconsin, Nebraska, USC, Washington, Iowa, MSU, and Minnesota.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Indiana IS NOT TRYING to schedule ANYONE tough OOC.

Bro, it's INDIANA! Why in the world would they INTENTIONALLY schedule tough??

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Consider who indiana has been, why the hell would they want to schedule an Oregon, Clemson, bama, GA, or Texas? they are trying to get bowl eligible, that's a success in their eyes.

100%.

 

[Gator]

Consider who indiana has been, why the hell would they want to schedule an Oregon, Clemson, bama, GA, or Texas? they are trying to get bowl eligible, that's a success in their eyes.

Ok, so send them to "a bowl game" just NOT the CFP!!

 

[PIBuckeye]

I say drop them to 10.