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Yes, i don't have anyone on my team to compare to Mantle at the 3 spot... But you might want to compare Ichiro's numbers to lofton's... they are very similar, and if anything Lofton is the better 2...

Not to start another war with another owner... But sometimes i do wonder if you guys do your research or just go on name value...


Who the fuck you calling you guys?
 

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Yes, i don't have anyone on my team to compare to Mantle at the 3 spot... But you might want to compare Ichiro's numbers to lofton's... they are very similar, and if anything Lofton is the better 2...

Not to start another war with another owner... But sometimes i do wonder if you guys do your research or just go on name value...

I'm also curious as to how you can say Lofton is better. Ichiro was a better hitter and better fielder, the only thing Kenny was better at was taking a walk.
 
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500 is OTC and has been texted. When WLK gets OTC he said to skip him. He will pick later.
 

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Gotta admit I got goose bumps seeing Sandy and Willie... God I love Baseball!
 

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Funny, Bench was out there and not Pete...
 

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Gotta admit I got goose bumps seeing Sandy and Willie... God I love Baseball!

Sandy throwing to Bench was cool. Last night Pujols hugging Pederson's brother and then interviewing the kid was awesome. I teared up.
 

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I'm also curious as to how you can say Lofton is better. Ichiro was a better hitter and better fielder, the only thing Kenny was better at was taking a walk.

never said he was a better player... Did say he is better at the number 2 slot... also said, they were very similar...

Lofton had better speed... better OBP(although close), took walks(sees more pitches)...

ichiro with 600 more PA- has BA/OBP/SB/Ks .316/.359/35/69

Lofton with 600 less PA has BA/OBP/162 aveSB/162 aveKs .299/.372/48/73

Lofton had an OBP of over 400 4 times Ichiro only once...

And by dWAR Lofton is significantly better defensively with 14.7 compared to ichiro 3.6

so not sure how it is so absurd that i think Lofton is the better 2...
 

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i will even go as far to say, if Ichiro was not Japanese he would not be a future HOF...
 

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fine, maybe i went too far... that was just the heat of the battle...

Now I am not comparing Lofton vs Ichiro because I don't know as much as you and UK. I do know you can't go wrong having either on your team. I saw Ichiro play in person a few times and his speed was shocking. He hit a ball to the SS and any person other then superman would have been out. You blinked and he was already at first. To me Lofton and Ichiro are very similar and your slitting hairs deciding who is better. All I do know is Team Ritz is waaaay better then his first round opponent. :D
 

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Now I am not comparing Lofton vs Ichiro because I don't know as much as you and UK. I do know you can't go wrong having either on your team. I saw Ichiro play in person a few times and his speed was shocking. He hit a ball to the SS and any person other then superman would have been out. You blinked and he was already at first. To me Lofton and Ichiro are very similar and your slitting hairs deciding who is better. All I do know is Team Ritz is waaaay better then his first round opponent. :D


i don't care who people think is better... I just took offense to UK saying my team won't win with Lofton hitting 2 and him owning Ichiro, who is basically the same player...

He made that comment last draft when i was against Nos, saying i lose because i had Bagwell in the 3 while Nos had Frank Thomas... Yes Thomas is better but it wasn't significant enough for that to be the reason... When i see remarks like that it just makes me question whether they are basing their knowledge on what they remember about the players or actual numbers... In all sports there are players that are just seen to be better than others even if they are not... Sometimes the EYE TEST actually fails, because you only remember plays that impress you... Its not like any of us were able to watch every single game these players played...

if we are not going to do research then there is no point to these votings we will always just pick teams based on players we like...
 

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never said he was a better player... Did say he is better at the number 2 slot... also said, they were very similar...

Lofton had better speed... better OBP(although close), took walks(sees more pitches)...

ichiro with 600 more PA- has BA/OBP/SB/Ks .316/.359/35/69

Lofton with 600 less PA has BA/OBP/162 aveSB/162 aveKs .299/.372/48/73

Lofton had an OBP of over 400 4 times Ichiro only once...

And by dWAR Lofton is significantly better defensively with 14.7 compared to ichiro 3.6

so not sure how it is so absurd that i think Lofton is the better 2...


It's not absurd you think anything, you just have a way of thinking all of your opinions are facts. What you don't seem to be able to grasp is there are other things other than OBP. If I have the leadoff hitter on 1st I want a guy who can get a hit and have a 1st and 3rd situation more than I want the guy who will take a walk giving me 1st and 2nd.
 

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Wlk has been skipped per his request and UK is OTC and has been texted
 

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I'm beginning to think maybe in future drafts we should all just ask 2% who we should pick with every pick then we couldn't possibly lose because he knows everything and we just pick players who we like...
 

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It's not absurd you think anything, you just have a way of thinking all of your opinions are facts. What you don't seem to be able to grasp is there are other things other than OBP. If I have the leadoff hitter on 1st I want a guy who can get a hit and have a 1st and 3rd situation more than I want the guy who will take a walk giving me 1st and 2nd.


this will be my last Draft... Honestly, it is fun... But you guys suck...
 

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Since I have Trout on my team and he hit a homerun today I figure I am 1 up on Milk already :suds:

Seriously milk I respect your opinions on baseball. However man you got to realize not everyone evaluates/thinks like you. Some guys are lazy and rather vote on whose team has the most players they like compared to best stats. Some guys like best pitching wins no matter what, some like old school players. Basically we all judge differently. That's the fun part. Wouldn't it be boring if we all thought or judged teams the same way?
 
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