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They still count as plate appearances, correct? If not, then he only has 99 plate appearances.Non sac fly sacs??
They still count as plate appearances, correct? If not, then he only has 99 plate appearances.Non sac fly sacs??
Per BBRef, OBP is calculates as...They still count as plate appearances, correct? If not, then he only has 99 plate appearances.
25/99 = .25252525... = .253
20 hits
4 BB
1 HBP
93 AB
1 SF
1 SH
100 PA
Per BBRef, OBP is calculates as...
H + BB + HBP / AB + BB + SF
Are IBBs considered BBs? The pitches are not thrown, so they technically are not balls.
Nope. He had 100 PAs. SHs count as a PA. But the calc is not divided by PAs. It is divided by H + BB + SFSo it should be 99 PAs for D'Arnaud and that is where BBBRef has it wrong.
As for IBBs, I believe they still count at BBs but they shouldn't. That is a relic from the days when pitchers still had to throw 4 pitches to walk the batter. The rule change has made that something else entirely and should be scored differently.
And it should not be called “IBB” anymore, either. Is should be called an “Intentional Pass” (or something similar).Nope. He had 100 PAs. SHs count as a PA. But the calc is not divided by PAs. It is divided by H + BB + SF
You are correct. I missed the HBP when I calculated plate appearances. So weird that they count everything else for on base (including sacrifice flies) but not sacrifice hits. In fact, doesn't a SH already count as an AB since it is scored a hit? Seems like it is redundant to also count in PAs.Nope. He had 100 PAs. SHs count as a PA. But the calc is not divided by PAs. It is divided by H + BB + SF
A SH is not a hit. It is an out. And does not count as an AB. However, I believe a SH, MUST result in a score. Bunting the runner on first to second does not count, I believe (or am I getting that confused with SFs?)You are correct. I missed the HBP when I calculated plate appearances. So weird that they count everything else for on base (including sacrifice flies) but not sacrifice hits. In fact, doesn't a SH already count as an AB since it is scored a hit? Seems like it is redundant to also count in PAs.
If a sacrifice hit is not a bunt single (like I was thinking) then it has to be a sacrifice bunt to get the runner over. If the bunt is not successful, then I assume it would be considered something else (i.e. pop out, strikeout, etc).A SH is not a hit. It is an out. And does not count as an AB. However, I believe a SH, MUST result in a score. Bunting the runner on first to second does not count, I believe (or am I getting that confused with SFs?)