Minnesota #1? Why not?!

[PnkPanther]

you missed the part where we beat former national champs Yale, by a large winning margin actually.

You should really stop

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

To be fair Colorado was decent when we scheduled them. New Mexico game was scheduled nearly a decade ago and the nmsu gave mn a sweet deal (we paid 250k).

Nor are we only team that scheduled cupcakes, it's pretty common even with good schools.

I listed out Clemson's ooc opponents during Dabo's first 3 full seasons and it was chock full of creampuffs.

3 fcs teams with crappy records for the most part, Wofford, Presbertyrian & Coastal Carolina.
Troy, N Texas & Middle Tenn.

Ball St, Furman, S Car St, the Citadel were played in 2012 & 13. I'm guessing 2 of those are also fcs.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

You should really stop

that's no fun, lol.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

you missed the part where we beat former national champs Yale, by a large winning margin actually.

Before dribbling was made a regular part of the game.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Before dribbling was made a regular part of the game.

I was going to say dribbling ended UMn kicking butt in cbb, but we have put 6 into the Naismith HOF and are just outside of the Top 10 at producing NBA players, so maybe we handled the introduction of dribbling just fine?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I was going to say dribbling ended UMn kicking butt in cbb, but we have put 6 into the Naismith HOF and are just outside of the Top 10 at producing NBA players, so maybe we handled the introduction of dribbling just fine?

No

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

No

Yes. Dribbling was never our problem.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Yes. Dribbling was never our problem.

Correct.


Winning games is.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

And speaking of Hall of Famers, UMn just got two more into a Hall of Fame as two more former Gophers got into the US Hockey Hall of Fame I just saw the announcement.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Correct.


Winning games is.

I have a feeling that's going to change soon. Not this year, but maybe next year?

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Lol just looked at Minnys schedule.

What a cakewalk.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Lol just looked at Minnys schedule.

What a cakewalk.

Sort of like Oregon's remaining schedule, eh?

 

[fknhippie]

As soon as you rank a Minnesota team, they lose.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Sort of like Oregon's remaining schedule, eh?

Minnesota has no one of the caliber of UGA on their schedule

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

As soon as you rank a Minnesota team, they lose.

I'd need to see the evidence to back that up, but it does seem that way sometimes, lol.

 

[Boglodyte]

And "average" P5 team will poach him? LMMFGDAO@youGator!!! This is the least intelligent opinion I may have ever heard from someone I'd other expect better, but your bs in this thread has led me to believe you are a moron.

First of all, it's much easier for a team from Clemson's division to get a winning record, playing against each other.


Dude, I am FAR from the only cfb fan that believes the ACC is a weak conference.

Let's look at the "conference breakdown" at the bottom of each season's page at collegepollarchive dot com.

2008 - ACC - 1182 - 3 tms
2008 - B1G - 2621 - 4 tms

2009 - ACC - 2156 - 4 tms
2009 - B1G - 3937 - 4 tms

2010 - ACC - 1342 - 4 tms
2010 - B1G - 2971 - 3 tms

2011 - ACC - 671 - 3 tms
2011 - B1G - 2760 - 4 tms

2012 - ACC - 1811 - 2 tms
2012 - B1G - 2011 - 4 tms

2013 - ACC - 2768 - 3 tms
2013 - B1G - 2446 - 3 tms

2014 - ACC - 3082 - 4 tms
2014 - B1G - 3411 - 3 tms

2015 - ACC - 2657 - 3 tms
2015 - B1G - 4996 - 6 tms

2016 - ACC - 3830 - 5 tms
2016 - B1G - 4403 - 4 tms

2017 - ACC - 2419 - 4 tms
2017 - B1G - 4833 - 5 tms

2018 - ACC - 2208 - 2 tms
2018 - B1G - 3005 - 5 tms

2019 - ACC - 1487 - 1 tm
2019 - B1G - 5466 - 6 tms

2020 - ACC - 3473 - 4 tms
2020 - B1G - 3710 - 4 tms

2021 - ACC - 2194 - 4 tms
2021 - B1G - 3805 - 4 tms

totals - ACC - 31,280 cumulative points since 2008 & 46 Top 25 ranked teams during Dabo's tenure as head coach of Clemson,
totals - B1G - 50,375 cumulative points since 2008 & 59 Top 25 ranked teams during Dabo's tenure as head coach of Clemson.

So the B1G garnered 60+% more points over that time period than the ACC and put 28% more teams into the AP Top 25 polls over that time period.



So yeah, the ACC is a weaker conference compared to the B1G. This is common knowledge among cfb fans

Riding coattails..

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Minnesota has no one of the caliber of UGA on their schedule

OSU/Michigan in the Conf Title game. Top Ten MSU in 2 weeks and Top 25 PSU and Wisconsin made a quick recovery after starting last year 1-3 and were ranked by week 9 again. So don't count them out yet.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Riding coattails..

How is stating factual information riding coattails?

I already started the discussion showing how UMn under Fleck, over the 3 most relevant seasons won more games than Dabo did in 3 of his earliest seasons and lost fewer games and actually beat a Top Ten ranked team and multiple teams all rated higher than the best team Dabo beat of those early seasons.

 

[Gator]

I listed out Clemson's ooc opponents during Dabo's first 3 full seasons and it was chock full of creampuffs.

3 fcs teams with crappy records for the most part, Wofford, Presbertyrian & Coastal Carolina.
Troy, N Texas & Middle Tenn.

Ball St, Furman, S Car St, the Citadel were played in 2012 & 13. I'm guessing 2 of those are also fcs.

Cherry picking again. You start out bragging about PJ Fleck and his success over the past 5 seasons. Now you shift to "first 3 full season of Dabo and only list Clemson supposed cream puff schedule WITHOUT showing Minnesota schedule over some 3 three comparable span. I lsited all 58 games of PJ Fleck's tenure and the corresponding span for Dabo. USE the list to highlight when PJ's schedule was ever better then Dabo's!

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I have a feeling that's going to change soon. Not this year, but maybe next year?

One BIG title since the Carter administration in hoops (wiped out by probation)