Minnesota #1? Why not?!

[HawkFan]

He's apparently gotten even worse? Or the OL or wrs or rbs have gotten worse?

He has. Doesn't help top two receivers and RB haven't played yet.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Agreed if you throw out all his bad years, he's been pretty decent.

ALL his bad years? lol.

Kirk Ferentz, was 12-21 after his first 3 years of head coaching.

he was 4-19 after two years at Iowa, so 16-40 after 5 years.

he was 11-24 after 3 years at Iowa, so 23-45 after 6 years of coaching.

he finally had a good season in his 7th year of coaching

he was 22-26 after 4 years at Iowa, so 34-47 for his 7 year head coaching career.

he was 32-29 after 5 years at Iowa, so 44-50 for his 8 year head coaching career.

he was 42-31 after 6 years at Iowa, so 54-52 for his 9 year head coaching career.

his 7th-9th seasons at Iowa he went 19-18.

so he was 61-49 after 9 seasons at Iowa, and 73-70 for his 12 year head coaching career.



So give Fleck a hard time for going 1-11 his first year at WMU, Kirk went 3-8 his first season at Maine.

So give Fleck a hard time for going 5-7 his frst year at UMn, Kirk went 1-11 his first season at Iowa.


Fleck took 4 years to go 13-1 at WMU, Kirk bailed on Maine before getting them to more than 6 wins.

Fleck took 3 years to go 11-2 at UMn, Kirk took 4 years to get there at Iowa.


Looking only at non-covid affected seasons, Fleck has went 32-19 his first 4 seasons at UMn vs Kirk going 22-26. Even if you add 2020 to Fleck's record and in turn add Kirk's 5th season where he went 10-3, STILL Fleck beats him out 35-23 vs 32-29. Fleck would only have to win 7 games this season to keep up with Kirk's Iowa career, even less to keep up with Kirk's total career.



Do you ever think before you post the sh1t you do? You might want to know what the frick you are talking about before typing your ignorant opinions. Just saying, I mean I love the slow pitch softball pitches that I get to hit out of the park, but I'd prefer a challenge dude, lol.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

If Fleck only keeps up with Kirk Ferentz's coaching career I'll be extremely disappointed. UMn would probably fire him if he only matches Kirk's accomplishments.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

KF at Iowa, 1-11, 3-9, 7-5 = 11-25 ----------- add years 4 & 5 11-2, 10-3 = 32-30 ----- add 2022, 1-1 = 33-31
vs
PJF at UMn 5-7-7-5-11-2 = 21-13 ----------- add years 4 & 5, 3-4, 9-4 = 33-21 ----- add 2022, 2-0 = 35-21

NO comparison, no matter what time span you analyze. lol


even
PJF at WMU, 1-11, 8-5, 8-5 = 17-21
vs
KF at Maine 3-8, 3-8, 6-5 = 11-21

That's NOT including Fleck's 13-1 4th season at WMU.


lol@KirkFerentz

 

[HawkFan]

ALL his bad years? lol.

Kirk Ferentz, was 12-21 after his first 3 years of head coaching.

he was 4-19 after two years at Iowa, so 16-40 after 5 years.

he was 11-24 after 3 years at Iowa, so 23-45 after 6 years of coaching.

he finally had a good season in his 7th year of coaching

he was 22-26 after 4 years at Iowa, so 34-47 for his 7 year head coaching career.

he was 32-29 after 5 years at Iowa, so 44-50 for his 8 year head coaching career.

he was 42-31 after 6 years at Iowa, so 54-52 for his 9 year head coaching career.

his 7th-9th seasons at Iowa he went 19-18.

so he was 61-49 after 9 seasons at Iowa, and 73-70 for his 12 year head coaching career.



So give Fleck a hard time for going 1-11 his first year at WMU, Kirk went 3-8 his first season at Maine.

So give Fleck a hard time for going 5-7 his frst year at UMn, Kirk went 1-11 his first season at Iowa.


Fleck took 4 years to go 13-1 at WMU, Kirk bailed on Maine before getting them to more than 6 wins.

Fleck took 3 years to go 11-2 at UMn, Kirk took 4 years to get there at Iowa.


Looking only at non-covid affected seasons, Fleck has went 32-19 his first 4 seasons at UMn vs Kirk going 22-26. Even if you add 2020 to Fleck's record and in turn add Kirk's 5th season where he went 10-3, STILL Fleck beats him out 35-23 vs 32-29. Fleck would only have to win 7 games this season to keep up with Kirk's Iowa career, even less to keep up with Kirk's total career.



Do you ever think before you post the sh1t you do? You might want to know what the frick you are talking about before typing your ignorant opinions. Just saying, I mean I love the slow pitch softball pitches that I get to hit out of the park, but I'd prefer a challenge dude, lol.

This would all be relevant if I started a thread declaring Iowa #1 after beating two shitty teams and comparing Kirk to Dabo.

Just an FYI
Years 4, 5, and 6 for Kirk
2004 No. 8 by AP and ESPN/USA Today
2003 No. 8 by AP and ESPN/USA Today
2002 No. 8 by AP and ESPN/USA Today

Fleck in 6 years has 1 top 25 finishes. .024 winning % better than the guy they fired, but hey go nuts


"But Covid"

 

[HawkFan]

KF at Iowa, 1-11, 3-9, 7-5 = 11-25
vs
PJF at UMn 5-7-7-5-11-2 = 21-13

NO comparison, lol.


even
PJF at WMU, 1-11, 8-5, 8-5 = 17-21
vs
KF at Maine 3-8, 3-8, 6-5 = 11-21

That's NOT including Fleck's 13-1 4th season at WMU.


lol@KirkFerentz

Fleck VS Kirk H2H 0-6

lol@rowtheboat

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Fleck VS Kirk H2H 0-6

lol@rowtheboat

Dude, Kirk's in his what? 24th season coaching?

He failed at Maine, took a long time to start winning at Iowa. But of course your dumb ass doesn't care about doing an honest fair assessment.

Because you are scared of what Fleck is doing at UMn and you know it. lol

 

[HawkFan]

Dude, Kirk's in his what? 24th season coaching?

He failed at Maine, took a long time to start winning at Iowa. But of course your dumb ass doesn't care about doing an honest fair assessment.

Because you are scared of what Fleck is doing at UMn and you know it. lol

He finished 8th in the Country in his 4th year.

.024%

"But we have Yanni"

 

[Wamu]

This would all be relevant if I started a thread declaring Iowa #1 after beating two shitty teams and comparing Kirk to Dabo.

Just an FYI
Years 4, 5, and 6 for Kirk
2004 No. 8 by AP and ESPN/USA Today
2003 No. 8 by AP and ESPN/USA Today
2002 No. 8 by AP and ESPN/USA Today

Fleck in 6 years has 1 top 25 finishes. .024 winning % better than the guy they fired, but hey go nuts


"But Covid"

Using actual numbers will just confuse him. He's allergic to them. Now if you explained things in diagram form using crayons you got his full attention.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

This would all be relevant if I started a thread declaring Iowa #1 after beating two shitty teams and comparing Kirk to Dabo.

Just an FYI
Years 4, 5, and 6 for Kirk
2004 No. 8 by AP and ESPN/USA Today
2003 No. 8 by AP and ESPN/USA Today
2002 No. 8 by AP and ESPN/USA Today

Fleck in 6 years has 1 top 25 finishes. .024 winning % better than the guy they fired, but hey go nuts


"But Covid"

Fleck in career season 4 = 13-1 #15 in AP
Fleck in career season 7 = 11-2 #10 in AP
Fleck in career season 9 = 9-4 #27 in AP.

Kirk got three top tens in by his 8th year, but needed 12 years to get his 4th season in the rankings.

that gives Fleck 2 years to get into the rankings one time to match Kirk. # of

Kirk missed the rankings in seasons 14, 15 & 16, too. So Fleck has all kinds of room to screw up, which he probably won't do.


4-8 in season 17, 7-6 in season 16, 8-5 in season 15? Surprised he wasn't fired?

1 single 11 win season in 10 seasons? And seasons 8-17, too, so not like he didn't have time to figure things out.


My guess is that 3 years from 2002-2004 had more to do with some top notch player, whom after graduating Kirk struggled for an entire decade to find it within him to win consistently.

At least UMn's inconsistency and losing ways can all be pointed to one bad coach and the circumstances surrounding his hiring, and the aftermath left behind, and then illness affecting the next coach one season and leading to a bad choice taking his spot and then of course covid messing with lots of programs across the country. I fully expect Fleck to establish consistency and to win alot more over his career here than Kirk did at Iowa over the same # of seasons.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

He finished 8th in the Country in his 4th year.

.024%

"But we have Yanni"

Fleck finished 10th in his 3rd.

 

[HawkFan]

Fleck in career season 4 = 13-1 #15 in AP
Fleck in career season 7 = 11-2 #10 in AP
Fleck in career season 9 = 9-4 #27 in AP.

Kirk got three top tens in by his 8th year, but needed 12 years to get his 4th season in the rankings.

that gives Fleck 2 years to get into the rankings one time to match Kirk. # of

Kirk missed the rankings in seasons 14, 15 & 16, too. So Fleck has all kinds of room to screw up, which he probably won't do.


4-8 in season 17, 7-6 in season 16, 8-5 in season 15? Surprised he wasn't fired?

1 single 11 win season in 10 seasons? And seasons 8-17, too, so not like he didn't have time to figure things out.


My guess is that 3 years from 2002-2004 had more to do with some top notch player, whom after graduating Kirk struggled for an entire decade to find it within him to win consistently.

At least UMn's inconsistency and losing ways can all be pointed to one bad coach and the circumstances surrounding his hiring, and the aftermath left behind, and then illness affecting the next coach one season and leading to a bad choice taking his spot and then of course covid messing with lots of programs across the country. I fully expect Fleck to establish consistency and to win alot more over his career here than Kirk did at Iowa over the same # of seasons.

Fleck at MN has finished a season in the top 25 once. I don't care what he did at some directional school

#.024
#ButCovid
#Yanni

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

He finished 8th in the Country in his 4th year.

.024%

"But we have Yanni"

He got overrated.

wins over 4-8 Akron, 4-7 Utah St and a 29-24 win over 7-5 Miami of Ohio was really impressive,
OH, and a LOSS to 7-7 ISU.

That's a pretty frigging weak ooc

wins over 4-8 MSU, 3-9 Indy, 3-9 NW, a 3 pt win over 7-6 Purdue, that's 7 of it's 11 wins so far, and an ugly loss.

wins over 8-6 Wisc and 8-5 Minn, gets them up to 9 unimpressive wins.

So how does one win over 9-4 PSU in OT and a win over 10-3 Mich get them all the way up to #3 in the nation going into their bowl game?????



OVERRATED!!!!!!


and getting pummeled 17-38 by #5 USC should have dropped them lower than #8 in the country.


Give UMn a hard time for playing weak schedules in 2019 and 2021, but Iowa in 2002 played a pretty weak ass schedule, had an ugly loss and only 2 notable wins, and an embarrassing bowl game pummeling. So stop being a hypocrite.

And I already pointed out how Iowa 2021 only beat ONE team of note.


You keep trying to get my goat with lame ass sh1t that is way too easy to throw back in your face.

 

[HawkFan]

He got overrated.

wins over 4-8 Akron, 4-7 Utah St and a 29-24 win over 7-5 Miami of Ohio was really impressive,
OH, and a LOSS to 7-7 ISU.

That's a pretty frigging weak ooc

wins over 4-8 MSU, 3-9 Indy, 3-9 NW, a 3 pt win over 7-6 Purdue, that's 7 of it's 11 wins so far, and an ugly loss.

wins over 8-6 Wisc and 8-5 Minn, gets them up to 9 unimpressive wins.

So how does one win over 9-4 PSU in OT and a win over 10-3 Mich get them all the way up to #3 in the nation going into their bowl game?????



OVERRATED!!!!!!


and getting pummeled 17-38 by #5 USC should have dropped them lower than #8 in the country.


Give UMn a hard time for playing weak schedules in 2019 and 2021, but Iowa in 2002 played a pretty weak ass schedule, had an ugly loss and only 2 notable wins, and an embarrassing bowl game pummeling. So stop being a hypocrite.

And I already pointed out how Iowa 2021 only beat ONE team of note.


You keep trying to get my goat with lame ass sh1t that is way too easy to throw back in your face.

3 #8 finishes in a row = "overrated"
1 #10 finish in 7 years = the next Dabo

Got it

#.027
#ButCovid
#Yanni

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Fleck at MN has finished a season in the top 25 once. I don't care what he did at some directional school

#.024
#ButCovid
#Yanni

Yeah Yanni. Has Iowa EVER produced a single recognizable musician?

Yanni all by himself probably whips Iowa's butt, no need to bring up Prince or Bob Dylan or the Replacements or Husker Du or the Andrew Sisters or Soul Asylum or Lipps Inc or The Time, etc.. lol

 

[HawkFan]

Yeah Yanni. Has Iowa EVER produced a single recognizable musician?

Yanni all by himself probably whips Iowa's butt, no need to bring up Prince or Bob Dylan or the Replacements or Husker Du or the Andrew Sisters or Soul Asylum or Lipps Inc or The Time, etc.. lol

No idea. I just think it's fucking hilarious that you bring up fuckin Yanni in a CFB thread, in defense of your shitty fb program.

Off to the bar to watch FB. Have fun

#.024
#ButCovid
#Yanni

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

3 #8 finishes in a row = "overrated"
1 #10 finish in 7 years = the next Dabo

Got it

#.027
#ButCovid
#Yanni

I only analyzed the first of those 3 seasons so far and only labeled THAT ONE SEASON to be overrated. Which it was, and I'm sure every single non-B1G fan in here, and even some B1G fans will admit exactly that.

And yes, Fleck could possibly be the next Dabo.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

No idea. I just think it's fucking hilarious that you bring up fuckin Yanni in a CFB thread, in defense of your shitty fb program.

Off to the bar to watch FB. Have fun

#.024
#ButCovid
#Yanni

I wasn't the one who brought up Yanni you moron, lol. You obviously don't have any kind of a sense of humor whatsoever

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

It's not the weakest division, it's produced more AP Top 25 teams than both the Pac North and South, lol. Dumbsh1t

Also produced more than at least one of the ACC Divisions, if not both, and is basically tied with the lesser of the SEC Divisions.

0 playoff wins

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

0 playoff wins

0 Natties for Oregon