POLL Mike Sando's 2022 QB Tier

[PDay8810]

Well, he is his own agent. My opinion he’s way overrated and ravens would be dumb as he is If they pay him top salary

But my point was the QB market

 

[PDay8810]

He is better than those QBs. You will see this season.

When's school start?

 

[PDay8810]

The issue I have is that every QB looked good against the Chiefs last year. So its 'yeah, he was good, too'.

There is a reason everyone is on the Chargers hype train again. Its Herbert

Cmon...you're a football guy, put down the division foe glasses. Take out all Chief games, this kid shows like Mahomes to be a stud.

And yes, a QB that has shown the required abilities at this level drives the hype train everytime

You're better than this.

 

[Cincyfan78]

No real complaints....you could argue for a bump/drop of a tier on a few guys. Burrow could easily be in tier 2, and honestly - lack of track record would be more than fair enough to put him there.

In the end, if you are looking over the career of QB's (not just 1 or 2 good seasons) I think this is more than fair.

 

[dtgold88]

So, we're going to forget his Lions career existed? Is Eli Manning elite? Stafford wasn't even top 10 on most people's lists until last year. I don't even have 10 QB's in my tiers 1 and 2.

Fair since what happened happened, but thinking careers might be different if Stafford was drafted by a Reid coached KC team and Mahomes by Detroit.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Fair since what happened happened, but thinking careers might be different if Stafford was drafted by a Reid coached KC team and Mahomes by Detroit.

Sure. Kirk Cousins looks pretty good too by the numbers. Nobody thinks he's tier 2 either though but dorks in Vikings twitter.

 

[dtgold88]

Sure. Kirk Cousins looks pretty good too by the numbers. Nobody thinks he's tier 2 either though but dorks in Vikings twitter.

No doubt Cousins (and Stafford often in Detroit) could be viewed as empty stat QB because they were so often putting up numbers in futile comebacks...which is great for their FFL owners, not so much their real teams. But stafford was put on a better team and did come through. Can he do it again? We'll see.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Stafford has always been tier 2, even when he was in detroit.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

No doubt Cousins (and Stafford often in Detroit) could be viewed as empty stat QB because they were so often putting up numbers in futile comebacks...which is great for their FFL owners, not so much their real teams. But stafford was put on a better team and did come through. Can he do it again? We'll see.

I think my main beef with Stafford is he had better help offensively than people want to admit. Especially if he is talked about as an elite QB (which roughly where tier 2 should begin, imo) he should've been producing more than empty calories (and statistically it wasn't that great outside of volume) in Detroit. If you give Rodgers, Mahomes, and Brady those Lions teams they wouldn't roll up and die. They wouldn't have the excuses flying.

 

[Clayton]

Cmon...you're a football guy, put down the division foe glasses. Take out all Chief games, this kid shows like Mahomes to be a stud.

And yes, a QB that has shown the required abilities at this level drives the hype train everytime

You're better than this.

When have I ever said Herbert stinks, though?

As a Chiefs fan, I've seen the Chargers picked to win the division a few times in the past couple of years so they always seem to be the offseason champs. That said, if you saw my predictions in the prediction topic that I picked the Chargers to make the playoffs for the one reason that Herbert is legit.

Carr, on the other hand, is the definition of average.

 

[dtgold88]

To anyone doubting Herbert, watch him play a few games. He's a flat out stud.

I think he is, too. Is fair to say if he went into the situation Stafford was dropped into when drafted and vice versa they might have similar careers to the other in their situations (if that makes sense).

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Cmon...you're a football guy, put down the division foe glasses. Take out all Chief games, this kid shows like Mahomes to be a stud.

And yes, a QB that has shown the required abilities at this level drives the hype train everytime

You're better than this.

I think there's a difference between saying Herbert is a stud and saying he's in the top tier with Mahomes.

 

[rmilia1]

Right now if probably go

1. Mahomes
2. Allen
3. Rodgers
4. Brady
5. Stafford
6. Wilson
7. Burrow
8. Jackson
9. Herbert
10. Carr
11. Murray
12. Prescott
13. Cousins
14. Hurts
15. Ryan
16. Tannehill
17. Winston
18. Mac Jones
19. Mayfield
20. Lawrence
21. Goff
22. Wentz
23. Daniel Jones
24. Tua
25. Mills
26. Wilson
27. Mariota
28. Trubisky
29. Lance
30. Fields
31. Brissett
32. Smith

 

[dtgold88]

I think my main beef with Stafford is he had better help offensively than people want to admit. Especially if he is talked about as an elite QB (which roughly where tier 2 should begin, imo) he should've been producing more than empty calories (and statistically it wasn't that great outside of volume) in Detroit. If you give Rodgers, Mahomes, and Brady those Lions teams they wouldn't roll up and die. They wouldn't have the excuses flying.

while I don't really agree, those comments are fair.

 

[dtgold88]

Guess should add ranking of my QB is fine. Needs to do something on field in his hew situation to move up.

 

[dtgold88]

Right now if probably go

1. Mahomes
2. Allen
3. Rodgers
4. Brady
5. Stafford
6. Wilson
7. Burrow
8. Jackson
9. Herbert
10. Carr
11. Murray
12. Prescott
13. Cousins
14. Hurts
15. Ryan
16. Tannehill
17. Winston
18. Mac Jones
19. Mayfield
20. Lawrence
21. Goff
22. Wentz
23. Daniel Jones
24. Tua
25. Mills
26. Wilson
27. Mariota
28. Trubisky
29. Lance
30. Fields
31. Brissett
32. Smith

Watson or another Browns' QB?

I'd probably move Herbert up and stafford down but like this list overall.

 

[futballiscool]

If you give Rodgers, Mahomes, and Brady those Lions teams they wouldn't roll up and die. They wouldn't have the excuses flying.

Brady's considered the GOAT and Mahomes and Rodgers are on pace to be in top 5 or 10 all time at the position.

You can argue Stafford is tier 1/elite in today's NFL without having to be at the level of historically elite players at the position

 

[rmilia1]

Watson or another Browns' QB?

I'd probably move Herbert up and stafford down but like this list overall.

I have Brissett at 31

Watson would be top 10

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Brady's considered the GOAT and Mahomes and Rodgers are on pace to be in top 5 or 10 all time at the position.

You can argue Stafford is tier 1/elite in today's NFL without having to be at the level of historically elite players at the position

Stafford has a 10+ year track record and even last year he was 29th in turnover worthy plays. Stafford having 1 nice year is not a tier 1 make, being tier 1 essentially requires you to be an all time great or play at that level going forward, imo. Tier 2 is generally where the 2nd tier HOF'ers. Good QB's like Cousins, Prescott, and Muray are tier 3s to me. If Stafford lights it up again, we can revisit this and maybe talk about tier 2. But for now I don't buy it.

 

[dtgold88]

I have Brissett at 31

Watson would be top 10

sure do......missed it. Probably fair for both. Think JB a solid backup. Hoping the plan isn't for him to be the man if Watson suspension is longer than, say, 6 games.