POLL Mike Sando's 2022 QB Tier

[DJ Fieri]

Carr is just barely outside tier 1.

Barely.

 

[Battlelyon]

Watch the week 18 game against LV and tell me that's on Herbert. Only thing you can't say about him is he's tier 1.

He was incredible vs the 26th best team in points allowed. Watch out 27th and 28th teams.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

He was incredible at home vs. the 26th best team in points allowed. Watch out 27th and 28th teams.

Stafford truly is NFC Derek Carr. Same arguments Carr stans make.

 

[Battlelyon]

Tampa was 5th in points allowed and in 2 games, Stafford threw for 6 TDs 0 interceptions and 709 yards, on the road in the playoffs was one of the games.

 

[PDay8810]

Carr is just barely outside tier 1.

Barely.

Sure...Dak too

 

[DJ Fieri]

Sure...Dak too

Carr is better than Dak.

 

[PDay8810]

Carr is better than Dak.

Sure...Dak is one spot behind

 

[fastforward]

People make me laugh, you would think Herbert could of done better of those bad Lions teams, and he doesn't even have a winning record playing with an All Pro S, WR, 6 pro bowlers and still can't make the playoffs. Got to love a guy losing 3 of 4 games down the stretch, I heard those Houston Texans could be tough,

Well, the Chargers offense scored more points in 2021 than the Rams offense did so maybe missing the playoffs wasn't on him. He also has the same number of ProBowl appearances after 2 years that Stafford has after 13 years. Heck, i'd trade Stafford and picks for him. The only thing i've got against him is that he's responsible for 1 of the most heinous attrocities in NFL history.

Spoiler: Herbert

He has single-handedly saved Mr. Spanos from being forced out of the Chargers ownership. Before Herbert that team couldn't put 5000 Chargers fans in their 20K capacity 'home' stadium.

 

[jarntt]

What are your thoughts on Mike Sando's list? Do you think your teams QB is placed just right, to low or to high?

For those who haven't seen it yet or need a reminder here is an excerpt and the list below:
"Sando's list was compiled based on feedback from 50 NFL coaches and executives, including six general managers, eight head coaches, 10 evaluators, 12 coordinators, six quarterback coaches and seven execs. The last ballot was a joint effort of four members of a team's personnel department.

More than one quarterback was featured for teams with undetermined starting jobs, and the survey excluded rookies because voters have not seen them play in the NFL."

A Tier 1 quarterback can carry his team each week. The team wins because of him. He expertly handles pure passing situations. He has no real holes in his game.

1. Aaron Rdogers

2. Patrick Mahomes

3. Tom Brady

4. Josh Allen

5. Justin Herbert

6. Joe Burrow

Tier 2:

A Tier 2 quarterback can carry his team sometimes but not as consistently. He can handle pure passing situations in doses and/or possesses other dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above Tier 3. He has a hole or two in his game.

7. Matthew Stafford

8. Russell Wilson

9. Deshaun Watson

10. Lamar Jackson

11. Dak Prescott

12. Derek Carr

13. Kyler Murray

14. Matt Ryan

Tier 3:

A Tier 3 quarterback is a legitimate starter but needs a heavier running game and/or defensive component to win. A lower-volume dropback passing offense suits him best.

15. Kirk Cousins

16. Jimmy Garoppolo

17. Ryan Tannehill

18. Mac Jones

19. Baker Mayfield

T-20. Jalen Hurts

T-20. Carson Wentz

22. Jared Goff

23. Trevor Lawrence

24. Jameis Winston

Tier 4:

A Tier 4 quarterback could be an unproven player (not enough information for voters to classify) or a veteran who ideally would not start all 17 games.

25. Justin Fields

26. Tua Tagovailoa

27. Davis Mills

28. Zach Wilson

29. Trey Lance

30. Daniel Jones

31. Marcus Mariota

32. Sam Darnold

33. Mitch Trubisky

34. Drew Lock

Tier 5:

A Tier 5 quarterback is best suited as a backup.

35. Geno Smith

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fox...kings-for-2022

All rankings are subjective, but IMO that's one of the best ones I've seen. I only looked at the tier, not the numerical rank.

 

[jarntt]

To anyone doubting Herbert, watch him play a few games. He's a flat out stud.

 

[jarntt]

Stafford didn't have that help like boy wonder does, he did get that help, and he wins the Super Bowl. Funny how that works.

Too bad he never had a receiver like Calvin Johnson to help him..

 

[PDay8810]

To anyone doubting Herbert, watch him play a few games. He's a flat out stud.

Seems only division foes are fighting Herbert.
Typical

 

[Clayton]

To anyone doubting Herbert, watch him play a few games. He's a flat out stud.

The issue I have is that every QB looked good against the Chiefs last year. So its 'yeah, he was good, too'.

There is a reason everyone is on the Chargers hype train again. Its Herbert

 

[Rowdy]

If Jackson's agent is any good, Lamar gets more everything money wise than Murray.

That's the NFL QB game

Well, he is his own agent. My opinion he’s way overrated and ravens would be dumb as he is If they pay him top salary

 

[Rowdy]

According to PFF Herbert ranked #1 amongst QBs in fewest turnover worthy plays during 2021. Stafford ranked #29. I have Herbert in tier 1 and Stafford in tier 2.

Herbert or Allan wins MVP this year

 

[Shane_O_Mac812]

1. Tom Brady
2. Patrick Mahomes
3. Josh Allen
4. Aaron Rodgers
5. Joe Burrow
6. Justin Herbert
7. Russell Wilson
8. Lamar Jackson
9. Matthew Stafford
10. Deshaun Watson
11. Dak Prescott
12. Kirk Cousins
13. Derek Carr
14. Kyler Murray
15. Jalen Hurts
16. Carson Wentz
17. Baker Mayfield
18. Mac Jones
19. Matt Ryan
20. Jared Goff
21. Jimmy G
22. Marcus Mariota
23. Ryan Tannehill
24. Davis Mills
25. Mitch Trubisky
26. Tua
27. Daniel Jones
28. Jameis Winston
29. Trevor Lawrence
30. Justin Fields
31. Zach Wilson
32. Trey Lance
33. Drew Lock
34. Sam Darnold
35. Geno Smith

You have Hurts too high, he is not better than Mayfield, Ryan, Jones, Goff, or Jimmy G. Hurts is around 22.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

You have Hurts too high, he is not better than Mayfield, Ryan, Jones, Goff, or Jimmy G. Hurts is around 22.

He is better than those QBs. You will see this season.

 

[Shane_O_Mac812]

No we really won't, he won't see the playoffs and will only make the Pro Bowl when 6 other qbs decline the invite.

 

[Southieinnc]

1. Tom Brady
2. Patrick Mahomes
3. Josh Allen
4. Aaron Rodgers
5. Joe Burrow
6. Justin Herbert
7. Russell Wilson
8. Lamar Jackson
9. Matthew Stafford
10. Deshaun Watson
11. Dak Prescott
12. Kirk Cousins
13. Derek Carr
14. Kyler Murray
15. Jalen Hurts
16. Carson Wentz
17. Baker Mayfield
18. Mac Jones
19. Matt Ryan
20. Jared Goff
21. Jimmy G
22. Marcus Mariota
23. Ryan Tannehill
24. Davis Mills
25. Mitch Trubisky
26. Tua
27. Daniel Jones
28. Jameis Winston
29. Trevor Lawrence
30. Justin Fields
31. Zach Wilson
32. Trey Lance
33. Drew Lock
34. Sam Darnold
35. Geno Smith

Watson is too high
Hurts is too high
Wentz is too high
Mac Jones is too low but I'll admit we don't yet know where to put him?
Other than that, a very good job!

 

[futballiscool]

I have no major complaints with the ranking. Stafford and Wilson can play their way easily into tier one and I expect Mac Jones to be considered a legitimate tier two QB by the end of the season. I think Mac wasn't given nearly enough credit for how well he played as a rookie without a number one caliber target at WR or TE.

Gardner Minshew should be a starter somewhere in the league and can probably play at at tier 3 level.