Meyer is getting screwed

[Across The Field]

Not once did OSU reach out to the fucking victim. Not in 2015, not in 2018, not last week when shit went south. And?

I'd also point out that McMurphy was reaching out to Meyer albeit publicly when they were asking him questions at media day. No one forced Meyer to lie at that time. That was a voluntary mistake.

That's what police are for. Did you know that universities aren't detective agencies? That's what actual detective agencies are for, and the actual authorities had nothing to give OSU because there were no charges. It's unreal how you still don't get it.

 

[Across The Field]

I hate him.. I will never respect the man due to what he did with my team.. fuck him and the slimy snake he slithered away on.. just glad I was able to see karma do her thang!

He did what now?

 

[WizardHawk]

That's what police are for. Did you know that universities aren't detective agencies? That's what actual detective agencies are for, and the actual authorities had nothing to give OSU because there were no charges. It's unreal how you still don't get it.

And it's unreal how spun up you are in your own bullshit homerism. There really isn't anyone in the country that agrees with you and your ilk. But of course they are ALL wrong right?

 

[nddulac]

And it's unreal how spun up you are in your own bullshit homerism. There really isn't anyone in the country that agrees with you and your ilk. But of course they are ALL wrong right?

Here they are!

 

[trojanfan12]

Zack will have been seen punching midgets at the state fair.

Is it wrong that I'd go to the state fair to see that?

 

[nddulac]

Is it wrong that I'd go to the state fair to see that?

Only if you are a midget.

 

[socaljim242]

That's what police are for. Did you know that universities aren't detective agencies? That's what actual detective agencies are for, and the actual authorities had nothing to give OSU because there were no charges. It's unreal how you still don't get it.

You're telling me a coach is suspected of beating his wife and the school does nothing to see whats going on? They just ask him his side? Only an actual arrest triggers something? Why do you think all these schools are in trouble now? Because they didn't investigate complaints about doctors who hadn't been arrested.

 

[Across The Field]

And it's unreal how spun up you are in your own bullshit homerism. There really isn't anyone in the country that agrees with you and your ilk. But of course they are ALL wrong right?

That's not actually true, but if you need that mentality to justify your opinion, go right ahead. Fact is, they are not supposed to be reaching out to her to talk to her for something that she didn't even press charges for. That is not appropriate.

 

[Across The Field]

You're telling me a coach is suspected of beating his wife and the school does nothing to see whats going on? They just ask him his side? Only an actual arrest triggers something? Why do you think all these schools are in trouble now? Because they didn't investigate complaints about doctors who hadn't been arrested.

I'm telling you a school is not a police agency. The police agency is the police agency. They went over and met with her dozens of times for myriad of reasons and nothing happened. No, it is not the school's job. Pressing charges would trigger it, doesn't require him to be hauled off.

Why are all of those schools in trouble?? Because the shit was happening and being covered up you doofus. There's no cover-up with OSU because that would require them actually trying to cover it up. The police were very involved. Holy hell, are you actually that ignorant as to compare this to the MSU situation?

 

[socaljim242]

I'm telling you a school is not a police agency. The police agency is the police agency. They went over and met with her dozens of times for myriad of reasons and nothing happened. No, it is not the school's job. Pressing charges would trigger it, doesn't require him to be hauled off.

Why are all of those schools in trouble?? Because the shit was happening and being covered up you doofus. There's no cover-up with OSU because that would require them actually trying to cover it up. The police were very involved. Holy hell, are you actually that ignorant as to compare this to the MSU situation?

Why is Ohio State, Urban Meyer and the AD in trouble? If it was as simple as the police didn't arrest him we're fine doing nothing, then they wouldn't be in trouble. But they are in trouble. They are supposed to investigate allegations like this.The fact that the guy had multiple incidents of domestic abuse accusations, protective orders against him. Police had to be called many times over a period of eleven years and at no time did the school think they should investigate and get both sides. Just because the police didn't arrest him doesn't absolve the school. Plus it looks like that police dept was terrible at handling the situation if were supposed to believe the Urban Meyer supporters who say she was driving drunk multiple times and never arrested. Begs to question did they let him go when they should have arrested him. You guys want it both ways. She's crazy drove drunk and they let her off and well they didn't arrest him so he didn't do anything wrong.
That's why they are in trouble.

 

[Across The Field]

Why is Ohio State, Urban Meyer and the AD in trouble? If it was as simple as the police didn't arrest him we're fine doing nothing, then they wouldn't be in trouble. But they are in trouble. They are supposed to investigate allegations like this.The fact that the guy had multiple incidents of domestic abuse accusations, protective orders against him. Police had to be called many times over a period of eleven years and at no time did the school think they should investigate and get both sides. Just because the police didn't arrest him doesn't absolve the school. Plus it looks like that police dept was terrible at handling the situation if were supposed to believe the Urban Meyer supporters who say she was driving drunk multiple times and never arrested. Begs to question did they let him go when they should have arrested him. You guys want it both ways. She's crazy drove drunk and they let her off and well they didn't arrest him so he didn't do anything wrong.
That's why they are in trouble.

Well Ohio State itself isn't in trouble. It's not like they're facing NCAA issues or legal issues. The only ones right now being looked at are Urban and Gene Smith, and the reason is that there's an obligation for Urban to report these sort of matters so they're making sure they were properly reported.

You're also dead wrong on "protective orders". He has had one, and it didn't happen until this year.

Do you even know what the police calls were? Do you not find it odd that all those times he was never arrested or even charged even though Ohio requires a person accused of DV to be incarcerated for 24 hours if there's even a hint that the spouse was abused?

It's remarkable how ill-informed you are. Please go do some actual research on the topic.

 

[WizardHawk]

That's not actually true, but if you need that mentality to justify your opinion, go right ahead. Fact is, they are not supposed to be reaching out to her to talk to her for something that she didn't even press charges for. That is not appropriate.

On what planet?

Have you read the alleged texts between Courtney and Meyer's wife? I mean I didn't see them attached to the main articles, but they are all up on McMurphy's facebook and it paints a pretty solid (if they are valid texts of course) picture that she was concerned for her well being and was deeply aware of what she was going through.

Burying your head in the sand because there is no police report seems entirely valid and acceptable to you. I really hope none of your family ever has to suffer from abuse while their abuser is working for a boss with that mentality.

 

[Across The Field]

On what planet?

Have you read the alleged texts between Courtney and Meyer's wife? I mean I didn't see them attached to the main articles, but they are all up on McMurphy's facebook and it paints a pretty solid (if they are valid texts of course) picture that she was concerned for her well being and was deeply aware of what she was going through.

Burying your head in the sand because there is no police report seems entirely valid and acceptable to you. I really hope none of your family ever has to suffer from abuse while their abuser is working for a boss with that mentality.

First off, fuck the hell off with your feigning morality. You don't give two shits about this woman so knock off the sanctimonious bullshit.

Secondly, if anyone in my family is being abused, their boss won't need to touch the situation because that would be handled by me. Are you that weak of a man that you'd need another unrelated man to step in and take care of your own family if they're in an abusive situation? Again, Urban isn't her dad, not her lawyer, he's not a cop and he's not a judge.

Thirdly, I have very legitimate reservations to believe someone who calls the cops repeatedly for abuse but elects to, not even once, press charges. It's not Shelly Meyer's responsibility, it's not Urban's responsibility. They tried to help them but it didn't work. At that point, it is a legal matter that cops and family should be handling.

 

[socaljim242]

Well Ohio State itself isn't in trouble. It's not like they're facing NCAA issues or legal issues. The only ones right now being looked at are Urban and Gene Smith, and the reason is that there's an obligation for Urban to report these sort of matters so they're making sure they were properly reported.

You're also dead wrong on "protective orders". He has had one, and it didn't happen until this year.

Do you even know what the police calls were? Do you not find it odd that all those times he was never arrested or even charged even though Ohio requires a person accused of DV to be incarcerated for 24 hours if there's even a hint that the spouse was abused?

It's remarkable how ill-informed you are. Please go do some actual research on the topic.

So you don't think Smith is a bad guy? You don't think Smith should have been fired at all? You'd be happy to have him back? You think Urban shouldn't have fired him?

I want to hear your super informed answer to those questions. Because if he never got arrested then he didn't do anything wrong right? You should be fighting for him to be reinstated.

 

[WizardHawk]

First off, fuck the hell off with your feigning morality. You don't give two shits about this woman so knock off the sanctimonious bullshit.

Secondly, if anyone in my family is being abused, their boss won't need to touch the situation because that would be handled by me. Are you that weak of a man that you'd need another unrelated man to step in and take care of your own family if they're in an abusive situation? Again, Urban isn't her dad, not her lawyer, he's not a cop and he's not a judge.

Thirdly, I have very legitimate reservations to believe someone who calls the cops repeatedly for abuse but elects to, not even once, press charges. It's not Shelly Meyer's responsibility, it's not Urban's responsibility. They tried to help them but it didn't work. At that point, it is a legal matter that cops and family should be handling.

First off fuck the hell off with your pretending you know what I do and do not find unacceptable in society. So you now know FOR SURE what violence I've seen in my life and what stances I've taken on it? Really dude, this is a new low for you.

Second, now it's calling out manhood? So this isn't the schools fault, or Meyer, or anyone else, this is a total failure of her family to do what you assert is the best course of action? What a total low life bullshit response man. I mean that's some sick shit right there.

Third, of course you have reservations. You of course have NONE for anything the school has said or done, but that bitch! and those supporting her!

You are a real piece of work.

Oh, and in before more negs. FFS grow a pair and stand up on your own two feet and stop the tantrums already.

 

[nddulac]

The thing about which I still find myself shaking my head . . .

Somewhere between the Powell police responding to a call in October 2015 and now, the account changed from the paperwork indicating that Zach Smith had been arrested, to "that is not what happened". We also know that Zach Smith can a conversation with Urban Meyer in which it was made clear that if he (Zach) had hit Courtney, Zach would be terminated immediately. (Did that conversation also include "if you have been arrested for domestic violence ...."?)

Clearly, Urban Meyer's Media Day account of "I didn't know anything" was a flat out lie. Who knows - maybe he forgot, but that explanation kinda pushes the limits of plausibility. And something happened to change the account of the Powell Police Department. What caused that change to take place?

So many questions. 14 days is not sufficient to wrap this up.

 

[socaljim242]

The thing about which I still find myself shaking my head . . .

Somewhere between the Powell police responding to a call in October 2015 and now, the account changed from the paperwork indicating that Zach Smith had been arrested, to "that is not what happened". We also know that Zach Smith can a conversation with Urban Meyer in which it was made clear that if he (Zach) had hit Courtney, Zach would be terminated immediately. (Did that conversation also include "if you have been arrested for domestic violence ...."?)

Clearly, Urban Meyer's Media Day account of "I didn't know anything" was a flat out lie. Who knows - maybe he forgot, but that explanation kinda pushes the limits of plausibility. And something happened to change the account of the Powell Police Department. What caused that change to take place?

So many questions. 14 days is not sufficient to wrap this up.

That Powell Police dept looks shady.

 

[WizardHawk]

14 days is not sufficient to wrap this up.

Well I mean it is long enough if your investigation doesn't including talking to people like the victim or anyone else but Urban himself. Then it's plenty of time.

 

[7Samurai13]

Well I mean it is long enough if your investigation doesn't including talking to people like the victim or anyone else but Urban himself. Then it's plenty of time.

Well I mean they will need to also check and make sure Urban isn’t lying to them as well so that takes extra time.

 

[WizardHawk]

Well I mean they will need to also check and make sure Urban isn’t lying to them as well so that takes extra time.

shhhh, I'm trying to see how far ATF will explode this time. Dude is wound up tight as fuck right now.