Message Board Braggin' Rights League

[leftypower]

I guess maybe all it really needs is done clarification...and "publication", so that everyone is clear on the matter?

Treff, et al, I have gone in assembled all the issues, existing Constitution, clarifications, etc I could find to date - considering only those that seemed to have no objections.

If no one objects, I will put it all together in a living document for everyone to see. I will post it on a completely separate thread so it can remain whole in one central place - one with no discussion, and no other posts other than approved amendments (I think that is what Joe intended - but several of us (me included) added our thoughts anyway - sorry Joe). I plan to include a brief Preamble as well. This may take some time to get it into a easy to read format, so bare with me - may take a few days. It wasn't easy to compile since there are discussions scattered over a number of threads so it's possible I may miss a couple - let me know if so by pm.

It is my sincere hope that this can, and will, put issues before us to rest and perhaps, calm some hard feelings. I know I'm ready to put the past couple of weeks behind us so we can move on.

 

[leftypower]

just breezing a lot of these threads, shits going nuts and @Chef99 is out..... getting way to serious for me

Yes, it has been a very rough couple of weeks. ...

 

[SteelersPride]

well i'm gonna be honest i stated life's hit me. when things cool off maybe i'll make a decision

 

[leftypower]

@averagejoe @tlance @TREFF @canesandfinsfanatic - Please see post 11640. I will send the draft of a 'finished' product to you via pm for review/comment before posting - not trying to steal anyone's thunder, just that I have the most time to devote.

 

[TREFF]

No objection from me Lefty

 

[bksballer89]

Yes, it has been a very rough couple of weeks. ...

I think chef will be back. I will make sure he is

 

[obxyankeefan]

I think chef will be back. I will make sure he is

BK apparently has @Chef99 flour hookup.

I think once we get a lot of this settled and everyone settles down we will be alright.

 

[tlance]

Treff, et al, I have gone in assembled all the issues, existing Constitution, clarifications, etc I could find to date - considering only those that seemed to have no objections.

If no one objects, I will put it all together in a living document for everyone to see. I will post it on a completely separate thread so it can remain whole in one central place - one with no discussion, and no other posts other than approved amendments (I think that is what Joe intended - but several of us (me included) added our thoughts anyway - sorry Joe). I plan to include a brief Preamble as well. This may take some time to get it into a easy to read format, so bare with me - may take a few days. It wasn't easy to compile since there are discussions scattered over a number of threads so it's possible I may miss a couple - let me know if so by pm.

It is my sincere hope that this can, and will, put issues before us to rest and perhaps, calm some hard feelings. I know I'm ready to put the past couple of weeks behind us so we can move on.

I think that sounds great Lefty.

This has been a rough week, but also these discussions needed to happen. I hope moving forward we can all be a little more diplomatic and understanding when we do not agree.

Lefty, since you are doing this, does that make you our new commish?

 

[Sam Sportboy]

Who is left that is OG and hasn't said they don't want to Commish?

 

[tlance]

Someone mentioned his a few pages back, but it bears repeating.

I think we should delete the BATG thread. D1, D2, bust and suicide are desperate leagues, so they should stay up.

I think using 1 thread for all core MBBRL related posts will force more interaction between members of both leagues and also avoid some of the communication problems we have had. The A and B leagues are closely linked, so I see no reason that everybody should not post together on the same thread. I know I rarely if ever visit league specific threads that I am not a member for, and I know many in the BATG league rarely use this thread.

Perhaps I am off base here, but I think this could help improve many of our issues.

 

[Sam Sportboy]

Someone mentioned his a few pages back, but it bears repeating.

I think we should delete the BATG thread. D1, D2, bust and suicide are desperate leagues, so they should stay up.

I think using 1 thread for all core MBBRL related posts will force more interaction between members of both leagues and also avoid some of the communication problems we have had. The A and B leagues are closely linked, so I see no reason that everybody should not post together on the same thread. I know I rarely if ever visit league specific threads that I am not a member for, and I know many in the BATG league rarely use this thread.

Perhaps I am off base here, but I think this could help improve many of our issues.

Yup. I agree 100%, but couldn't we just unsticky the BATG thread. I like to go back and laugh at some of the shit that has went down in the past............doubt I'm alone in this.

 

[Bandit]

That sounds fine to me @leftypower you can call me if you need any clarifications on anything.

1st of all, I also agree totally with Tlance that we should get rid of the B league thread so everybody is on the same page with all issues. And since we are going to list everything, I think that since our #1 rule is to keep posting then there needs to be a minimum amount of posts required on the main board. I know this wasn't a problem in the past, but putting an actual number on it makes sense now. I'm not talking about a high number, but I was thinking that 60 seems good to me (that would be three posts per week from the beginning of August to the end of the regular season). Three times a week putting a freaking comment up should be the bare minimum. I mean you can say good luck to whoever you're playing and good game to them afterwards and have 2/3rd's of your requirement met, but I think since that rule was the main basis of this league it needs some clarification now. Thoughts on this? @TREFF @tlance @averagejoe @leftypower do you think that number is too low or about right? Also, I think violation of that rule should automatically put you up for oblivion vote. I mean it's the foundation of the league right?

Another thing along the lines of no douchey play. Well I think we need some clarification there also. I think that is way to vague of a definition. I have stayed out of the discussion about Shady because it was getting way too heated and I can't for the life of me understand why. All of the name calling and cyber screaming wasn't going to change the fact that it already happened, it was within the rules at the time so there was no violation of anything, and it is such an easy fix (change the maximum number of bench players to 5) before next season. Changing the max to 5 bench players doesn't necessarily mean that you must field 9 active players in your starting lineup, it just means that you must have a player in at each position to go with your 5 bench players which would solve the issue that Shady had last year because he would have to have a defense in without the 6th bench spot he was using.

I'm with Tlance on not putting too many restrictions on how you use your roster, but I think we should keep it more simple than that and give people some flexibility. I think the rule should be that any player should to the best of their ability fill their starting lineup with 9 active players since all points and results matter to the integrity of the league. Violation of this rule any 3 weeks during the 14 week regular season puts you up for oblivion vote. That way if you want to leave a player that's on a bye in one week you can, or if you leave Theo Riddick in your lineup and he's inactive and you lose by .3 points and alter the playoffs (sorry Face I had to) you can, but if it happens 3 times during the season you are up for oblivion with no discussion. By doing it that way, if you want to risk intentionally leaving a player that's on bye in your lineup that's fine, but if later in the season you accidentally leave an inactive player in twice you are up for oblivion. Also, the rule would apply if somebody is either abandoning their team or not paying enough attention and leaving players in who are on byes or inactive it will solve that as well. There will always be times for each one us that either somebody aggravates an injury in pre-game warmups so we had no idea that he wasn't going to play and he gets left in, or you have a questionable guy with a late game that is supposed to play but doesn't and all your other bench guys have already played early games so you have nobody to put in for him. That happens to all of us, but I think just making a general rule that if it happens any 3 weeks of the season you are up for oblivion eliminates the need to take each individual way you can end up with somebody not playing in your lineup and make a rule for it, plus if one of those scenarios happens that I was talking about you wouldn't be penalized for accidentally leaving an inactive player in for one week.

 

[Sam Sportboy]

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[Sam Sportboy]

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I'm almost there

 

[obxyankeefan]

Damn

 

[obxyankeefan]

you

 

[obxyankeefan]

@Sam Sportboy

 

[Bandit]

Oh Sam and OBX thanks so much for being a smart ass, now it's going to be even farther up for everybody to read.

 

[obxyankeefan]

That sounds fine to me @leftypower you can call me if you need any clarifications on anything.

1st of all, I also agree totally with Tlance that we should get rid of the B league thread so everybody is on the same page with all issues. And since we are going to list everything, I think that since our #1 rule is to keep posting then there needs to be a minimum amount of posts required on the main board. I know this wasn't a problem in the past, but putting an actual number on it makes sense now. I'm not talking about a high number, but I was thinking that 60 seems good to me (that would be three posts per week from the beginning of August to the end of the regular season). Three times a week putting a freaking comment up should be the bare minimum. I mean you can say good luck to whoever you're playing and good game to them afterwards and have 2/3rd's of your requirement met, but I think since that rule was the main basis of this league it needs some clarification now. Thoughts on this? @TREFF @tlance @averagejoe @leftypower do you think that number is too low or about right? Also, I think violation of that rule should automatically put you up for oblivion vote. I mean it's the foundation of the league right?

Another thing along the lines of no douchey play. Well I think we need some clarification there also. I think that is way to vague of a definition. I have stayed out of the discussion about Shady because it was getting way too heated and I can't for the life of me understand why. All of the name calling and cyber screaming wasn't going to change the fact that it already happened, it was within the rules at the time so there was no violation of anything, and it is such an easy fix (change the maximum number of bench players to 5) before next season. Changing the max to 5 bench players doesn't necessarily mean that you must field 9 active players in your starting lineup, it just means that you must have a player in at each position to go with your 5 bench players which would solve the issue that Shady had last year because he would have to have a defense in without the 6th bench spot he was using.

I'm with Tlance on not putting too many restrictions on how you use your roster, but I think we should keep it more simple than that and give people some flexibility. I think the rule should be that any player should to the best of their ability fill their starting lineup with 9 active players since all points and results matter to the integrity of the league. Violation of this rule any 3 weeks during the 14 week regular season puts you up for oblivion vote. That way if you want to leave a player that's on a bye in one week you can, or if you leave Theo Riddick in your lineup and he's inactive and you lose by .3 points and alter the playoffs (sorry Face I had to) you can, but if it happens 3 times during the season you are up for oblivion with no discussion. By doing it that way, if you want to risk intentionally leaving a player that's on bye in your lineup that's fine, but if later in the season you accidentally leave an inactive player in twice you are up for oblivion. Also, the rule would apply if somebody is either abandoning their team or not paying enough attention and leaving players in who are on byes or inactive it will solve that as well. There will always be times for each one us that either somebody aggravates an injury in pre-game warmups so we had no idea that he wasn't going to play and he gets left in, or you have a questionable guy with a late game that is supposed to play but doesn't and all your other bench guys have already played early games so you have nobody to put in for him. That happens to all of us, but I think just making a general rule that if it happens any 3 weeks of the season you are up for oblivion eliminates the need to take each individual way you can end up with somebody not playing in your lineup and make a rule for it, plus if one of those scenarios happens that I was talking about you wouldn't be penalized for accidentally leaving an inactive player in for one week.


posted by @canesandfinsfanatic