Mariners Offseason 2024-25

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Mikar Perez..1b/3b. is still there.
And I think.
Maybe ready to move up.
Finally .

 

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Austin st Laurent. Is who
I have an eye on...utility..missing
From.east.carolina..

Found wandering app..state..
Know mariners.

 

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I have had my eye on Charlie pags pagliarini..
And I was about to say...
Ohh noo..
But he came back to hit .232
13...
Home runs .
I.hope he does better .this year

 

[ulmax]

Yeah minor league .guys..have there eye.
On lots of guys..
Some pan out .many do not..

Working hard is just as important as it.
Ever was...

A bit diff than it ever was.(.song)

 

[NWinAZ]

But why? Sasaki would instantly be the Ace, at least by performance and stuff but another top starter isn’t what they need, especially one with a AA pitch count. Not saying I don’t want them to sign him at all cause I think switching him and Castillo does make the team better. But I also think Hancock or the other two rookies plus 2 bats is better than Castillo and prayers. But I would love for them to trade Castillo and sign him.

Because Sasaki wouldn't go against their set payroll. He has to be paid with international money which comes out of a different budget. They either spend it on him or 3 16-year-old Latin players. That is why he in particular is the key. Much like Ohtani when he came over. That is why M's went for it on him and then got burned by the freaking Angels.

I’m not saying Castillo doesn’t have value. Just saying in terms of getting an impact bat I personally think he has the least value of any of the starters. IMO, in order for someone to take on his entire salary the M’s will have to toss in a prospect.

Castillo has value I guarantee it. There are actual teams out there that are not afraid to pay market value. He is easily market value. He is not a vet where we have to attach a prospect in order to trade him. We have to add one to up a deal for a multi-player trade.

It should be fun...or boring like most offseasons for M's.

 

[ulmax]

I'm liking on horner..2b..11 mil
But
I like vaughn..760.k..1b whitesox
Like .Miranda...800 k..dh.twins.

A 3b..I don't have one .but Rojas.
Would.do off the bench..

And then an urias..that was much better.

I liked rojas.as a2b./3b..but..
They used him to.
Much..
Like .
It's hard to not to...
When he is the only guy.you.have...

But hopefully that changes..
Add..3b..
Plus Williamson..at Tacoma..by end of.
Next season.

But mariners will be short.left handers.
And Rojas is the only left handed.
3b.i ever seen other than seager.

 

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And with that.math...
And some savings from trades mariners can go forward..
Getting close.

The mark..16.mil.
I believe can't be done..and have Bull pen guy..
And 3b..without tradeing Castillo.

 

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They could and still may trade for belinger...
And trade him.to phili..
For outfielder..and get bohm..
But luke.raley..is enough..
For mariners..
They don't need.2.guys.who do the same.thing...

Do they .????

 

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Don't get me wrong vaughn has his problems..
But all.other 1b.are expensive..
And he hits .hrs..he has hit 270.
About 2years ago..
He only has 4 years.in the league..
So white Sox have sucked.the.whole.
Time he has been.at.mlb.

He is 26.years.old.

 

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Any players that fall.through.
They should still .pursue the others.
Vaughn and miranda.have worth.
When you put them in the right.
Spot..
Both hit 20.hrs..and prob more as they get older.
Ohh yeah.mirada did not have that

many..but he could and should.

 

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Phili nation..
On bohm...
Yeah they get..that the price.on bohm..
Is lower..
But they start.at.the.top....ok with that..
Phili want him to.take.more.pitches..but he's a contact hitter
Hell swing at the first pitch....
If he feels it's down.
The middle .

Contact hitter is ok.for.seattle..
With it's rotation...we don't even know
How dangerous they.
Really are..

Yet .

Cuz lak.of.run.support..haunts.them

 

[wazzu31]

Because Sasaki wouldn't go against their set payroll. He has to be paid with international money which comes out of a different budget. They either spend it on him or 3 16-year-old Latin players. That is why he in particular is the key. Much like Ohtani when he came over. That is why M's went for it on him and then got burned by the freaking Angels.



Castillo has value I guarantee it. There are actual teams out there that are not afraid to pay market value. He is easily market value. He is not a vet where we have to attach a prospect in order to trade him. We have to add one to up a deal for a multi-player trade.

It should be fun...or boring like most offseasons for M's.

I totally understand wanting Sasaki and his salary. I’m just saying trading Castillo IMO isn’t related to signing Sasaki. In my dream world, if they sign Sasaki that would mean Gilbert or Kirby is now tradable.

Castillo without question has value. But the main issue with him is the contract. The only teams who would take that on are going to be teams wanting to win. So not only would the Mariners be asking them to take on the contract but also give up an impact player. Thats where it’s hard to tell what the value is. Castillo for Bohm straight up I think would be the Phillies robbing the Mariners, but IMO that is what it’s going to be (a player a team doesn’t really want) unless the Mariners eat some of the deal. Also IMO if they are going to trade one of their starters it needs to be for a player that a contending team wants. Not like another Ray for Haniger deal where the Mariners give up something valuable for another teams scraps.

 

[wazzu31]

Any trade of a SP has to be predicated on them signing Sasaki.

Castillo has good value. Workhorse with history. His salary seems bad to us because we are the cheap ass Mariners, but the going rate for free agent starters is crazy. Just look at the last 3 signings. Nobody's making almost as much.

But my rebuttals to what pitchers are signing for is teams don’t have to give up anything to get a FA. Which goes back to us hating ownership cause they’d rather give up something to get a player rather than sign someone. Sign a Walker or Bregman so you don’t have to subtract from the MLB nor give up your top prospects to trade for someone else’s leftovers.

 

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Fantasy lineup .

1robles ...rf
2.horner....2b.cubs
3.julio....cf
4.miranda..dh.twins
5.raliegh.cat.
6.bohm...3b.philis.
7.vaughn...1b..white.sox..
8.arosarena.
9.crawford..

10..garver..
11.moore.
12.????
13.raley..

 

[NWinAZ]

I totally understand wanting Sasaki and his salary. I’m just saying trading Castillo IMO isn’t related to signing Sasaki. In my dream world, if they sign Sasaki that would mean Gilbert or Kirby is now tradable.

Castillo without question has value. But the main issue with him is the contract. The only teams who would take that on are going to be teams wanting to win. So not only would the Mariners be asking them to take on the contract but also give up an impact player. Thats where it’s hard to tell what the value is. Castillo for Bohm straight up I think would be the Phillies robbing the Mariners, but IMO that is what it’s going to be (a player a team doesn’t really want) unless the Mariners eat some of the deal. Also IMO if they are going to trade one of their starters it needs to be for a player that a contending team wants. Not like another Ray for Haniger deal where the Mariners give up something valuable for another teams scraps.

Castillo is the only one that gives them spending money and he is the least valuable to us IMO.

 

[NWinAZ]

But my rebuttals to what pitchers are signing for is teams don’t have to give up anything to get a FA. Which goes back to us hating ownership cause they’d rather give up something to get a player rather than sign someone. Sign a Walker or Bregman so you don’t have to subtract from the MLB nor give up your top prospects to trade for someone else’s leftovers.

But that isn't Mariners reality.

 

[NWinAZ]

Seattle Mariners Sign Former San Diego Padres Prospect to Minor League Deal

The Seattle Mariners minor league system might take a bit of a hit during the MLB Winter Meetings. Outside of possible trades that can end with the Mariners parting with top prospects, the organization has many other minor leaguers eligible to be selected in the Rule 5 Draft.

www.yardbarker.com

 

[wazzu31]

Front loading is a good idea if we get him on a 4yr contract. If for whatever reason year 3 or 4 we're out of playoff contention early and he's putting up solid numbers, that becomes a very tradable contract to get top prospects in return.

IMO front loading it isn’t for trade purposes. It for in year 3 or 4 the team can just release him and eat $4m of whatever. I truly think the back end of the contract is what is scaring ownership off of signing or extending players. Doing the opposite of deferring money is a way to appease ownership and attract FA’s IMO. Basically do a NFL model of front loading, with signing bonus’, and incentives. Another way of putting it is let the players brag about their contract like Julio can even though half of the actual contract is based off of incentives.

 

[wazzu31]

But that isn't Mariners reality.

Fair point.

 

[wazzu31]

Castillo is the only one that gives them spending money and he is the least valuable to us IMO.

For sure he does. But like how you said trading him is predicated on signing Sasaki, do you think trading Castillo is also predicated on signing Walker or Bregman?