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and by this logic we cant sign josh because we used his money to rebuild the centerfield area of the ballpark

52 + 60 = 112 million. That's what it took to sign him. More simple math than logic. Not sure what Josh and the cenerfield project have to do with it.
 

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52 + 60 = 112 million. That's what it took to sign him. More simple math than logic. Not sure what Josh and the cenerfield project have to do with it.

because the 52 million isnt part of payroll,just like the centerfield remodeling...see the ones who count the posting fee are doing it wrong :)
 

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52 + 60 = 112 million. That's what it took to sign him. More simple math than logic. Not sure what Josh and the cenerfield project have to do with it.



have you heard the Rangers expressing any concerns about the money? i haven't, so why are you?
 

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People are seriously underestimating the amount of money a player like Yu Darvish can bring to the Rangers just by existing. The Texas Rangers brand just went global. The ballpark is likely to see a spike in attendance much like with the Cliff Lee signing. That in turn generate even more revenue from ballpark vendors/etc.

$52 million may be a steal in the end.
 

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People are seriously underestimating the amount of money a player like Yu Darvish can bring to the Rangers just by existing. The Texas Rangers brand just went global. The ballpark is likely to see a spike in attendance much like with the Cliff Lee signing. That in turn generate even more revenue from ballpark vendors/etc.

$52 million may be a steal in the end.

yup,exactly
 

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have you heard the Rangers expressing any concerns about the money? i haven't, so why are you?

You and the other poster need to brush up on your reading retention. Just did some math and it says the Rangers paid 112 million to sign this guy. I'd rather have spent the money on Fielder, but I'm sure as hell not upset or concerned over this signing.
 

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You and the other poster need to brush up on your reading retention. Just did some math and it says the Rangers paid 112 million to sign this guy. I'd rather have spent the money on Fielder, but I'm sure as hell not upset or concerned over this signing.

They may get both.
 

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it took 52 million for the nippon club to allow us to talk to him,it took 60 mil to sign him

True that the $60mm (or whatever the number is) counts toward salary ... and the luxury tax comutation down the road (as well as factoring into the MLB minimum veteran salary).

Thing is that the $52mm came out of somebody's wallet so the Darvish opportunity was viewed as a better use of $52mm than whatever else the owner contemplated doing with it.

Know you probably see it this way too ... just the continual "$52mil doesn't count toward salary" over and over doesn't make it any smaller hole in ownership doing something else with it.
 

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And Darvish only costs money. He doesn't cost any prospects or draft picks. Something to remember.
 

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Sounds like Hamilton will become a free agent and Prince won't be signed by the Rangers from Durrett's latest comments.
 

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True that the $60mm (or whatever the number is) counts toward salary ... and the luxury tax comutation down the road (as well as factoring into the MLB minimum veteran salary).

Thing is that the $52mm came out of somebody's wallet so the Darvish opportunity was viewed as a better use of $52mm than whatever else the owner contemplated doing with it.

Know you probably see it this way too ... just the continual "$52mil doesn't count toward salary" over and over doesn't make it any smaller hole in ownership doing something else with it.

the owners have said that the posting fee will not affect decisions and will be viewed as an outside of operations expense(unless im mixing up my memory)
 

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True that the $60mm (or whatever the number is) counts toward salary ... and the luxury tax comutation down the road (as well as factoring into the MLB minimum veteran salary).

Thing is that the $52mm came out of somebody's wallet so the Darvish opportunity was viewed as a better use of $52mm than whatever else the owner contemplated doing with it.

Know you probably see it this way too ... just the continual "$52mil doesn't count toward salary" over and over doesn't make it any smaller hole in ownership doing something else with it.


I guarantee you that if this kid bombs there are a couple of billionaires that are going to be asking a lot of questions about 112 million.
 

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Sounds like Hamilton will become a free agent and Prince won't be signed by the Rangers from Durrett's latest comments.

He just posted an article that stated Fielder is in fact more interested in Texas than anywhere and is curious to see if a creative deal can be put together
 

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He just posted an article that stated Fielder is in fact more interested in Texas than anywhere and is curious to see if a creative deal can be put together

hells yeah.........my friend texted this to me earlier----i hope prince fielder parachutes into the darvish presser while punching the rally monkey :D lol
 

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Just my interpretation from the voice interview he just gave.
 

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here's why the Rangers and Fielder still a good match:

• The Rangers have the cash. In Sept. 2010 they agreed to a 20-year, $1.6-billion television contract with Fox Sports that will go into effect after the 2014 season.

• The Rangers are the only 2012 World Series contender seeking Fielder's services. While the Cubs, Mariners and Nationals are all moving in the right direction -- with the Nationals the farthest along in that process -- only the Rangers made the playoffs in any of the past three seasons, and they even reached the World Series twice, losing this past year despite twice being one strike away from a championship.

• Texas has the most offensive-friendly ballpark. Rangers Ballpark in Arlington is a launching pad. In the last four years its major league rank for most home runs has been: 3rd, 2nd, 10th, 1st. Fielder would also join a lineup that scored 855 runs last season, third-most in the majors.

• The Rangers play in the American League and thus can use the designated hitter. Fielder has shown no signs of slowing down despite his 5'11", 275-pound (or more) physique, having played no fewer than 157 games in any of his six full seasons, all with the Brewers, and has played 485 out of a possible 486 games in the past three seasons. Still, it never hurts to have an insurance policy. The Mariners are also an AL team, but they just traded for Yankees prospect Jesus Montero, whom many scouts think is best suited to be a DH. And while the Rangers have DH Michael Young under contract through 2013, it's probably later in Fielder's contract that playing him at DH will matter more, not to mention that Young only started 69 games in that spot last year anyway

• The Rangers have a need. No, they don't really need a lot more offense -- the lineup already features Josh Hamilton, Nelson Cruz, Ian Kinsler, Adrian Beltre, Michael Young and Mike Napoli -- but first base could stand an improvement over Mitch Moreland. The rotation would seem to be a greater need, but Texas already stands to gain from a third straight season of a reliever-to-starter conversion. C.J. Wilson and Alexi Ogando made the change the last two seasons, and both were All-Stars in 2011. This spring Texas plans to move closer and former AL Rookie of the Year Neftali Feliz into the rotation, and he has the best pure stuff of any of that trio.

• Adding Fielder would help the Rangers keep ahead of the Angels, who, flush with the cash of their own new TV deal, signed high-priced free agents Albert Pujols and C.J. Wilson, and also added reliever LaTroy Hawkins and catcher Chris Iannetta. Los Angeles finished the season 10 games behind Texas in the AL West but was within as few as three games with two weeks remaining in the season. Now, the AL West could become a TV-fueled arms race between the two clubs.

• And the most emotionally tantalizing reason -- and the one even casual fans of other teams could rally behind -- is that a move to the Rangers would reunite Fielder in the same division with Pujols, who joined the Angels from the Cardinals, who, of course, play in the NL Central with the Brewers. It has been speculated that Boras has been angling for a contract for Fielder that would exceed Pujols' $240 million pact with Los Angeles, forming a challenge and furthering a rivalry with the more accomplished (but four years older) Pujols.
 
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