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[skinsdad62]

New Video Shows Capitol Police Telling Trump Protesters They Can Remain Inside the Building As Long as They 'Remain Peaceful.' - DailyVeracity

A new video has emerged showing a pro-Trump protester in a beige hoodie and the infamous ‘Q-Anon shaman’…

www.dailyveracity.com

here is the video skin em all

 

[gkekoa]

Why? Do you really want to go with private property?

From a criminal perspective…he is free to do so as an employee.

The owner and league should be free to ban him as a consequence of his legal action. When he is on that field, he is a representative of his team and the league.

 

[gkekoa]

Police are state employees, not federal ones. Big difference!

No it isn’t. Insurrection is not limited to federal government.

 

[gkekoa]

Immaterial, Kaepernick didn't do it on the owner's field either.

He did it on the field, while representing the team. It is the owner’s field through the lease made by the team…which the owner possesses.

 

[Skin'EmAll]

New Video Shows Capitol Police Telling Trump Protesters They Can Remain Inside the Building As Long as They 'Remain Peaceful.' - DailyVeracity

A new video has emerged showing a pro-Trump protester in a beige hoodie and the infamous ‘Q-Anon shaman’…

www.dailyveracity.com

here is the video skin em all

Oh wow, i can't speak on this. This is something i didn't need to see. Smh

 

[Stymietee]

From a criminal perspective…he is free to do so as an employee.

The owner and league should be free to ban him as a consequence of his legal action. When he is on that field, he is a representative of his team and the league.

Doesn't he represents himself first and foremost? Of course, if you're intimating a no personal rights stance, The US Constitution and common sense supports his very legal action.

 

[Stymietee]

He did it on the field, while representing the team. It is the owner’s field through the lease made by the team…which the owner possesses.

Sidelines aren't the field! The full name of that area is "field of play" when you're not there, you are off of the field of play.

 

[gkekoa]

Doesn't he represents himself first and foremost? Of course, if you're intimating a no personal rights stance, The US Constitution and common sense supports his very legal action.

Of course he does but he doesn’t own the platform. Do you support a white guy making racist statements at your workplace? Neither do I.

The US Constitution supports Kap not to be arrested. It doesn’t support his action if his employer chooses to fire him or the league refuse to sign him.

 

[gkekoa]

Sidelines aren't the field! The full name of that area is "field of play" when you're not there, you are off of the field of play.

The sideline is the field. The locker room is still controlled by ownership. When you are representing your organization, you don’t get to express your “feelings” at their expense and in violation of the organization’s rules.

 

[Stymietee]

No it isn’t. Insurrection is not limited to federal government.

Do more research, riots are not insurrections, and insurrections aren't riots. When there's a direct attack on the seat of the federal government for the sole purpose of overturning a free/fair election and installing a loser as the head of government that by any noteworthy definition is an insurrection. You're conflating the two.

 

[Stymietee]

Of course he does but he doesn’t own the platform. Do you support a white guy making racist statements at your workplace? Neither do I.

The US Constitution supports Kap not to be arrested. It doesn’t support his action if his employer chooses to fire him or the league refuse to sign him.

Your comparison totally misses the mark. Racist actions such as you've suggested aren't protests, try again, I'm enjoying this.

Nobody said that the consequences of his action was protected. He had every right to do that and you know it. What you're attempting to argue is akin to committing a crime on private property. KC committed no crime beyond offending skewed senses of silly people, and as such becoming the target of their wrath.

 

[Stymietee]

The sideline is the field. The locker room is still controlled by ownership. When you are representing your organization, you don’t get to express your “feelings” at their expense and in violation of the organization’s rules.

One of the sorriest norms for far too many people in this country is centering their lives around their jobs, instead of engaging in work as a means to enhance their lives. Let me state this loud and clear, Eff all of that ownership BS!! Far worse than kneeling ( a prayer move) has taken place in stadiums and arenas through the country without consequence. KC made a non-threatening move and idiots went berserk because of their politics, skewed "American" narratives, personal and social dysfunction, and of course bias towards their entertainment and what it should or should not be.

 

[Stymietee]

The sideline is the field. The locker room is still controlled by ownership. When you are representing your organization, you don’t get to express your “feelings” at their expense and in violation of the organization’s rules.

Really?? I ask that you rethink that!

First of all... the sideline is called the sideline because it is not the field nor an extension of the same. so let's end this once and for all the NFL field measures 360 feet or 120 yards long, it is 160 feet or 53 1/3 yards wide. There is a restraining line that measures 6' along the sideline that designates the closest non-players can be to the field. That is as far as the field goes. KC was well behind the 6' sideline designation and therefore NOT on the field when he took his benevolent action. BTW: if you had any clue as to what takes place in locker rooms you would be justified in saying that ownership doesn't control them.

To your other point...

Players (and sometimes coaches) routinely fight opposition and one another on and near the field of play, they are routinely disrespectful of the opposition's field, use performance-enhancing drugs, get arrested, suspended, banned, and do idle-minded things during games as I list them without research. What then is a player or players to do when the ownership completely disrespects and embarrasses his employees, their families, communities, and the city?

 

[gkekoa]

Do more research, riots are not insurrections, and insurrections aren't riots. When there's a direct attack on the seat of the federal government for the sole purpose of overturning a free/fair election and installing a loser as the head of government that by any noteworthy definition is an insurrection. You're conflating the two.

I showed you the definition. Just because you don’t like the definition doesn’t mean you get to change it.

Was it free and fair? Look at 2,000 mules.

 

[gkekoa]

One of the sorriest norms for far too many people in this country is centering their lives around their jobs, instead of engaging in work as a means to enhance their lives. Let me state this loud and clear, Eff all of that ownership BS!! Far worse than kneeling ( a prayer move) has taken place in stadiums and arenas through the country without consequence. KC made a non-threatening move and idiots went berserk because of their politics, skewed "American" narratives, personal and social dysfunction, and of course bias towards their entertainment and what it should or should not be.

People work to support their family lifestyle.

So the owner should not be able to control the business he has taken all the risk to start or continue?

 

[gkekoa]

Really?? I ask that you rethink that!

First of all... the sideline is called the sideline because it is not the field nor an extension of the same. so let's end this once and for all the NFL field measures 360 feet or 120 yards long, it is 160 feet or 53 1/3 yards wide. There is a restraining line that measures 6' along the sideline that designates the closest non-players can be to the field. That is as far as the field goes. KC was well behind the 6' sideline designation and therefore NOT on the field when he took his benevolent action. BTW: if you had any clue as to what takes place in locker rooms you would be justified in saying that ownership doesn't control them.

To your other point...

Players (and sometimes coaches) routinely fight opposition and one another on and near the field of play, they are routinely disrespectful of the opposition's field, use performance-enhancing drugs, get arrested, suspended, banned, and do idle-minded things during games as I list them without research. What then is a player or players to do when the ownership completely disrespects and embarrasses his employees, their families, communities, and the city?

Semantics. Whenever the player is at work, they represent the team.

The players are free to quit. Seek employment elsewhere…just like every other job in America. The problem with some people is they treat athletes like they are better than anybody else…truth is, most athletes would be lucky to have a job without sports.

 

[Stymietee]

I showed you the definition. Just because you don’t like the definition doesn’t mean you get to change it.

Was it free and fair? Look at 2,000 mules.

Actually, I gave you the definition, just because you don't like the definition and how it's applied doesn't mean that you can change it.

Yeah as presidential elections go, 2020 was about as fair as they come, no matter what some bullshit artist drums up!

Did Biden win? Yep, that's a fact.
Did treasonous lose? Yep, that's a fact.
Was the election fair? Yep, that's a fact.
Was it accurate? Yes, that's a fact.

What else ya got?

 

[skinsdad62]

I showed you the definition. Just because you don’t like the definition doesn’t mean you get to change it.

Was it free and fair? Look at 2,000 mules.

They don’t get the beef , the constitution states clearly that state legislatures set up voting laws . Secretary’s of States , Governor’s can’t change that . They will never look at 2000 mules or any video evidence you or I supply because in doing so they can’t escape the truth and why people were upset enough to riot at the capitol. They want to erase what our eyes clearly see . I don’t believe one case actually got litigated and all were dismissed without any evidence presented . For 4 years they called Trump an illegitimate president based on Russia gate lies and when the other side has questions it’s “ conspiracy theories “ . HRC and Stacy Abrams won’t admit they lost .

To go further the next conservative will be Satan as was Bush , Romney , McCain And Trump were before them . I can hear Maxine Waters cranking out impeach 47 Before the ink is dry on the vote

 

[skinsdad62]

Actually, I gave you the definition, just because you don't like the definition and how it's applied doesn't mean that you can change it.

Yeah as presidential elections go, 2020 was about as fair as they come, no matter what some bullshit artist drums up!

Did Biden win? Yep, that's a fact.
Did treasonous lose? Yep, that's a fact.
Was the election fair? Yep, that's a fact.
Was it accurate? Yes, that's a fact.

What else ya got?

No way he got 81 mil votes , more votes then Obama ? Nope

 

[Stymietee]

People work to support their family lifestyle.

So the owner should not be able to control the business he has taken all the risk to start or continue?

Yeah, I noted that in my previous response, but I also pointed out what far too many others do as well.

In big businesses such as the NFL, owners own, but what you're failing to realize is... it takes a whole lot of people who are not owners to run and keep that business afloat. Owners didn't build the business alone and it's impossible to keep it going without the aid and assistance of many. People often make blanket statements that sound good on the surface, but honest, thinking, considered men and women know better than to look at the surface. Let me give you an example.

You wrote: "So the owner should not be able to control the business he has taken all the risk to start or continue?"

At face value that seems logical or at worse a non-starter in terms of debate, but allow for this and your question becomes moot. So, I ask you, which of these owners started or really took any risk to continue owning their franchises? (green Bay excepted)

Arizona Cardinals: Bill Bidwill (inherited it from his father)​

Atlanta Falcons: Arthur Blank (bought the team for $545 million 2002)​

Baltimore Ravens: Stephen Bisciotti (Acquired $325 million deal with Art Modell in 2004.)​

Buffalo Bills: Terry Pegula (bought the Bills for $1.4 billion 2014)​

Chicago Bears: Virginia Halas McCaskey (Inherited it from dear ole' dad 1983)​

Cincinnati Bengals: Mike Brown (Inherited it from dear ole' dad 1991)​

Cleveland Browns: Jimmy Haslam (bought from Randy Lerner for $1 billion 2012)​

Dallas Cowboys: Jerry Jones (bought them in 1989 for $140 million)​

Denver Broncos: Pat Bowlen, now deceased, (family purchased the team from Edgar Kaiser for $70 Million,1984)​

Detroit Lions: Martha Ford, (Inherited team from late husband William Clay Ford, Sr. 2014)​

Green Bay Packers: Green Bay Packers, Inc. (An exception and only socialist NFL team was formed in 1923)​

Houston Texans: Janice McNair, (Inherited it from her late husband Robert McNair 2018)​

Indianapolis Colts: Jim Irsay, (1972 he bought the Los Angeles Rams for $19 million and traded teams with Carroll Rosenbloom for the Baltimore Colts.)​

Jacksonville Jaguars: Shahid Khan, (Bought for $770 Million 2011)​

Kansas City Chiefs: Clark Hunt, (Inherited it from dear ole' dad Lamar in 2006)​

Los Angeles Chargers: Dean Spanos, (Inherited it from dear ole' dad 2018)​

Los Angeles Rams: Stan Kroenke, (bought the team for $750 Million in 2010)​

Miami Dolphins: Stephen M. Ross, (On January 20, 2009 Stephen Ross bought out Wayne Huizenga)​

Minnesota Vikings: Zygi Wilf, (Wilf and his partners bought the Vikings in 2005 for $600 million)​

New England Patriots: Robert Kraft, (bought the Patriots for $172 million in 1995)​

New Orleans Saints: Gayle Benson, (Inherited it from her late Husband Tom)​

New York Giants: John Mara and Steve Tisch, ( Both inherited their share, Tish November 2005, Mara, Oct 2005)​

New York Jets: Robert Wood Johnson IV, (bought the Jets in 2000 for $635 million.)​

Oakland Raiders: Mark and Carol Davis, (Inherited it from dear ole' dad and late husband AL 2011)​

Philadelphia Eagles: Jeffrey Lurie, (bought the Eagles in 1994 for $195 million)​

Pittsburgh Steelers: Rooney Family, ( Inherited after the death of Dan April 2017)​

San Francisco 49ers: Jed York, ( Inherited from the DeBartolo family, He's their nephew)​

Seattle Seahawks: The Paul G. Allen Trust, (Created after his death in 2018)​

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Glazer Family, (bought the Bucs for $192 million in 1995)​

Tennessee Titans: Amy Adams Strunk (Half owner and controlling partner inherited from dear ole' dad)​

Washington Commanders: Dan Snyder (In May 1999, Snyder bought the team for $800 million)​