Is Russel Wilson an ELITE QB?

[Dolemite censored]

...and Brady and Manning weren't elite either after their first 2 years.

Compare Wilson's playoff wins to Peyton's in the first couple of years.

 

[VikingsAD28]

Compare Wilson's playoff wins to Peyton's in the first couple of years.

How does that refute my point? Again, The team around Wilson was a SB caliber team with the top D in the league. Peyton inherited a 1-15 team.

 

[VikingsAD28]

Are you old enough to remember that?

 

[gandydancer]

How does that refute my point? Again, The team around Wilson was a SB caliber team with the top D in the league. Peyton inherited a 1-15 team.

Many posts go over his head.

You can break it down smaller for him and say again no QB is considered elite in year 3.

Wait, it is the same thing. Nevermind

 

[Southieinnc]

I am a big RW fan and said so before last year. He is still developing so the answer is no, not yet. I happen to believe he will be.....

 

[GNG]

Truthfully you couldn't go wrong with either. Keep a eye on Wilson this year, I think he's going to impress.

I have Wilson as my starting QB on my fantasy league team.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I have Wilson as my starting QB on my fantasy league team.

I've got both Wilson and Luck on one of my FF teams. Who to start?

 

[GNG]

I've got both Wilson and Luck on one of my FF teams. Who to start?

Nick Foles is my backup QB.

 

[VikingsAD28]

I've got both Wilson and Luck on one of my FF teams. Who to start?

Wilson is a fringe starter in most leagues - Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, Rivers, Ryan, Brady, Stafford, Cutler, Foles and Romo are all better bets in FF, in my opinion.

 

[gohusk]

How does that refute my point? Again, The team around Wilson was a SB caliber team with the top D in the league. Peyton inherited a 1-15 team.

What are you talking about? They were 7-9 with one of the worst passing offenses in the league the year before.

 

[VikingsAD28]

What are you talking about? They were 7-9 with one of the worst passing offenses in the league the year before.

...and the pass offense didn't improve that much. Their coaching, defense and running game got much better. Again 7-9 vs 1-15 hmmmm...

 

[SonnyCID]

...and the pass offense didn't improve that much. Their coaching, defense and running game got much better.

 

[VikingsAD28]

...and the pass offense didn't improve that much. Their coaching, defense and running game got much better. Again 7-9 vs 1-15 hmmmm...

They were actually ranked higher in passing the year before Wilson got there. They were 27th in the league his rookie year and 22nd the year before.

 

[gohusk]

...and the pass offense didn't improve that much. Their coaching, defense and running game got much better. Again 7-9 vs 1-15 hmmmm...

You don't know what you're talking about. They went from 23rd in the league in scoring to 9. Who do you think is to thank for that? Maybe the guy who tied the NFL rookie td passing record? Keep hating though.

 

[Southieinnc]

Wilson is a fringe starter in most leagues - Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, Rivers, Ryan, Brady, Stafford, Cutler, Foles and Romo are all better bets in FF, in my opinion.

What is fantasy football? Is that where you pick the Jets to win or something like that?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Nick Foles is my backup QB.

Wow. Looks like both of us are set with QBs. Now it comes down to picking a starter.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

What is fantasy football? Is that where you pick the Jets to win or something like that?

 

[VikingsAD28]

You don't know what you're talking about. They went from 23rd in the league in scoring to 9. Who do you think is to thank for that? Maybe the guy who tied the NFL rookie td passing record? Keep hating though.

In their last 2 years the Seahawks have finished 26th and 27th in pass offense. Yes, their offense has improved and RW is a very good QB and leader however, he's not elite. The offense has improved because their defense has improved. I wonder how many extra possessions they got in the last 2 years vs 2011. It's about opportunities and the unit as a whole. Their passing game is not even average at this point. It bottom 6-7 in the league, look it up it's fact.

 

[SonnyCID]

They were actually ranked higher in passing the year before Wilson got there. They were 27th in the league his rookie year and 22nd the year before.

And Matt Stafford was 2nd the league in both those years, so......

 

[Smart]

They were actually ranked higher in passing the year before Wilson got there. They were 27th in the league his rookie year and 22nd the year before.

They were #6 in the NFL in yards per pass in 2012. They were #26 in 2011.

But please, tell me how their passing offense got worse. That really shows that you are the voice of reason.