Is it just me, or are kickers shittier than usual?

[Clayton]

i'm not sure what the numbers show so far this year, but 25% of the year isn't a small sample size.

It kinda is. There is a reason why extra points were moved back. Kickers got too good.

 

[jarntt]

It kinda is. There is a reason why extra points were moved back. Kickers got too good.

No it's not. 25% is a big sample size. That's what a SAMPLE size is!!!
I'm not sure how you are going from sample size to kickers being too good though

 

[Clayton]

No it's not. 25% is a big sample size. That's what a SAMPLE size is!!!
I'm not sure how you are going from sample size to kickers being too good though

Oh. Well in baseball a lot of statisticians actually say a regular season is a small sample size to decide which team is best. Its not a ridiculously small sample size but it would be hard to make an argument that kickers are worse based on a few weeks.

I think someone mentioned that the numbers were similar/slightly better than they were last year in the first few weeks earlier in the thread.

 

[Broncos6482]

Really the entire NFL season is a small sample size because the season is so short. And if a kicker attempts 30 field goals in a season, that's also a relatively small sample size.

The article I posted earlier talks a lot about this, and why it seems like kickers are a lot worse this year even though they really aren't, and why a kicker's field goal percentage might fluctuate quite a bit from year to year. If you find this topic interesting you should definitely read it.

 

[nathans8823]

Could it be the different rules or the different Extra Point distance?

 

[jarntt]

Oh. Well in baseball a lot of statisticians actually say a regular season is a small sample size to decide which team is best. Its not a ridiculously small sample size but it would be hard to make an argument that kickers are worse based on a few weeks.

I think someone mentioned that the numbers were similar/slightly better than they were last year in the first few weeks earlier in the thread.

Maybe, I don't know anything about the numbers. My point was solely that we are 25% of the way through the season. So to say that isn't significant when using it to state that kickers are down this year compared to usual is off a little. That doesn't mean by the way that it won't pick up and end up higher. But I wonder if the %'s normally go down later in the year as the weather gets bad in some areas.

 

[jarntt]

Really the entire NFL season is a small sample size because the season is so short. And if a kicker attempts 30 field goals in a season, that's also a relatively small sample size.

The article I posted earlier talks a lot about this, and why it seems like kickers are a lot worse this year even though they really aren't, and why a kicker's field goal percentage might fluctuate quite a bit from year to year. If you find this topic interesting you should definitely read it.

What? Wasn't someone saying the % is down THIS YEAR? So how would this entire year be a small sample size to see if the %'s were down this year? I probably missed some of what was being discussed.

 

[Broncos6482]

What? Wasn't someone saying the % is down THIS YEAR? So how would this entire year be a small sample size to see if the %'s were down this year? I probably missed some of what was being discussed.

You did. I'm just saying that 30 kicks isn't a very large number, so even if that's how many an average kicker takes in a season, it's still a relatively small sample size. That's why you'll often see a kicker's field goal percentage vary quite a bit from year to year.

Really, just read the article I posted, it explains it a lot better.