Is Dwayne Wade Done in Miami?

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Aww man...wait until Russ sees this!

If True, Riley has some balls.

Way to low ball your Franchise guy.

I mean, Wade is insane if he thinks he's worth 17 m plus per.

But, this is slightly insulting when you factor in his production, tenure and what he has sacraficed in the past.

Let the Arison is a cheap bastard chants began.


It was Wade, not James, who by himself kept Udonis Haslem in Miami. Wade went to James with the idea of taking less money to include Haslem. James refused. The Heat couldn’t figure out a way to make a competitive offer to Haslem within salary-cap constraints until Wade volunteered to take that salary hit alone. It is why Wade was paid millions less than Bosh and James — one of the sacrifices Wade would make on behalf of team that he evidently would now like reimbursed. Miami Herald

Actually the Heat WANT to pay him 16M this season.
They don't want him to opt out.
Apparently there cap situation is much more favorable next year if Wade is off the books.

Riley wants Durant or similiar. That's how he rolls.
He also has to deal with Whiteside next summer.
Wade has Birds rights, so you can figure out his deal after the fact.


I can't say I'd be unhappy with a a starting 5 of Dragic, Wade, Durant, Bosh, Whiteside.

 

[Flauge]

Actually the Heat WANT to pay him 16M this season.
They don't want him to opt out.
Apparently there cap situation is much more favorable next year if Wade is off the books.

Riley wants Durant or similiar. That's how he rolls.
He also has to deal with Whiteside next summer.
Wade has Birds rights, so you can figure out his deal after the fact.


I can't say I'd be unhappy with a a starting 5 of Dragic, Wade, Durant, Bosh, Whiteside.

This is what I don't understand. Why does this have to be worked out this offseason? Wade is getting 16.1 million next year. That's above what a player who will turn 34 next season with bad knees who misses 1/4 of the season. Cap goes up next season. Let's get everything worked out and then handle Wade on the back end. Wade deserves money, probably over what he is worth. Fine. But the 3 year 50 million dollar deal (about 17 per) is unrealistic. We can be competitive especially in the East. We shouldn't throw that away because Wade feels he is owed more. He stays next year and Miami has paid him over 152 million in his career. Add in endorsements... him bitching over a few million is petty.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

I can't say I'd be unhappy with a a starting 5 of Dragic, Wade, Durant, Bosh, Whiteside.

Why not trade your 10th draft pick for Steph Curry and your 40th for James Harden while you're at it!

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Why not trade your 10th draft pick for Steph Curry and your 40th for James Harden while you're at it!

That's not realistic.

The other scenario certainly is.
It's been reported/leaked since this Wade thing started what Riley's hope/plan is.

Unless he promised Wade something last summer that included a new multi year contract this summer ( which we know didn't happen), Wade isn't getting one.

Riley's not going to screw up his cap space AND Wade is making 16M this year.
If that isn't good enough for Wade, then test the waters...but as far as getting offered more then that...good luck.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Appears it's close. Dwayne's best days are getting further and further away in the rear view mirror. With the reality of the salary cap, diminished skills and constant DNP's, it may be time to cut the cord and move forward rather than fall back. Wade's a certain HOFer, but bigger stars than he have been let go when the end of the road is in sight. He can make $16.1M next year for playing 50-55 games in Miami or opt out and go play somewhere else.

Go to your hometown Bulls for a few years; it all makes too much sense.

I think Butler is a better 2 right now...DWade would have to be the 6th man which wouldn't be a bad move for him and the Bulls but he's not ready to be that guy.

Now...ATL imo is the perfect spot for him...slide him right into Korver's spot and make K the 6th man. He would give ATL another proven scorer in the playoffs.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

That's not realistic.

The other scenario certainly is.
It's been reported/leaked since this Wade thing started what Riley's hope/plan is.

Unless he promised Wade something last summer that included a new multi year contract this summer ( which we know didn't happen), Wade isn't getting one.

Riley's not going to screw up his cap space AND Wade is making 16M this year.
If that isn't good enough for Wade, then test the waters...but as far as getting offered more then that...good luck.

If it's about getting top $...MIA truly is the best place for him...if he wants to chase another title...opting out is the best thing imo.

 

[ducky]

That's not realistic.

Thinking that Durant would take less money to come to Miami to play with a completely inferior roster is pretty damn unrealistic.

If Durant walks from OKC, he'll go home to DC and team up with Wall and Beal. The only reason he would even listen to a Miami pitch is for the free drinks and the beachside hotel.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

If it's about getting top $...MIA truly is the best place for him...if he wants to chase another title...opting out is the best thing imo.

To go where? Cavs and play for 3M?

On paper,the Heat should be solid next year. I'm not saying championship, but certainly solid.
THEN...you let Riley handle the 2016 offseason.

I'll easily take the starting 5 I named over a 32-33 year old James with Love, Kyrie.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

While you got guys like Bosh, Wade and (possibly) Dragic on the team demanding top dollar, there's no way they can get Durant even when the cap does go up!

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Thinking that Durant would take less money to come to Miami to play with a completely inferior roster is pretty damn unrealistic.

If Durant walks from OKC, he'll go home to DC and team up with Wall and Beal. The only reason he would even listen to a Miami pitch is for the free drinks and the beachside hotel.

Maybe..but who said less money?
A new 4 year max is what it is.
And while Wall/Beal are very nice...Dragic, Wade, Bosh...and ESPECIALLY IMO Whiteside create a better, balanced roster.

Look, IF Whiteside continues to figure this thing out, good luck stopping him.
I'm totally sold on his talent. I prefer his ability over ANY other currently on our roster.
Time will tell.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

While you got guys like Bosh, Wade and (possibly) Dragic on the team demanding top dollar, there's no way they can get Durant even when the cap does go up!

Duh...
That's why Wade IS NOT getting top dollar.

You guys are funny.

If the Cavs can have 3-4 max or near max players+ Andy and crew, why can't the Heat?

 

[ducky]

Maybe..but who said less money?

It would be less money (one less year) than OKC could pay him.

I think in the end he will stay put.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

It would be less money (one less year) than OKC could pay him.

I think in the end he will stay put.

Maybe he will, this is just speculation/talk.

Thing is NBA salary is WAYYY less than endorsements.
Florida has no state taxes, so you save tons on your TOTAL income if your primary address is here.

So really, where is he making more money playing?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

While you got guys like Bosh, Wade and (possibly) Dragic on the team demanding top dollar, there's no way they can get Durant even when the cap does go up!

You forgot our best player, Whiteside.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Duh...
That's why Wade IS NOT getting top dollar.

You guys are funny.

If the Cavs can have 3-4 max or near max players+ Andy and crew, why can't the Heat?

You can, near enough! But it means the rest of your team is weak as shit.

Without lebron the cavs wouldn't have even made the ECF. Their whole team is reliant on pretty much one dude.

Do you really want to risk the heat placing their entire payroll on four players, two of which will be 34 and 32 next season?

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

You forgot our best player, Whiteside.

Interesting character but I wouldn't bet my last buck on him to win any awards anytime soon!

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Interesting character but I wouldn't bet my last buck on him to win any awards anytime soon!

All Star game next year.
I'll bet you right now.

 

[ducky]

If the Cavs can have 3-4 max or near max players, why can't the Heat have 3 plus Wade?

It's about how and when you add them.

One of the interesting thing about the Heat is that they will not have full bird rights on Whiteside when he becomes an UFA next offseason. Meaning they have to keep cap space to sign him to an extension if he goes over the NBA average salary (he will).

Long and short is that the Heat are not in a great spot to take full advantage of the exploding cap. They will be stuck at spending under the cap (as opposed to a lot of teams like the Cav's who will be spending well over it but still well short of the tax threshold).

To get that line up you put up there, the heat would have to renounce the rights on Wade and then get him to come back on a mid-level deal in all likelihood. .

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

All Star game next year.
I'll bet you right now.

I'm not 100% sure if you're actually serious or not...

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

You can, near enough! But it means the rest of your team is weak as shit.

Without lebron the cavs wouldn't have even made the ECF. Their whole team is reliant on pretty much one dude.

Do you really want to risk the heat placing their entire payroll on four players, two of which will be 34 and 32 next season?

Disagree.
Cavs had solid contributors.
Of course its way easier to acquire open shots when James is on the court, BUT you still have to make them.
Cavs bench/role players have done this the entire post season.

Heat would have no problem having a sufficient bench, especially because we have added some decent youth last year and we get this nice draft pick (hopefully).