Is Baker Mayfield a Top 10 QB

[Wamu]

No. It proves nothing. Maybe I missed the verified screen shot of the text. I mean Watson SAYS he didn't sexually assault a couple dozen women. Does that make it true?

Dammit I hate defending that scumbag Watson.

I'm not saying he's completely innocent. Too many women have come forward with accusations against him.

But two separate grand juries have declined to indict him. Don't you think if there's true concrete proof that Watson's guilty of sexual assault one of those juries would have indicted him?

 

[dtgold88]

Actually he didn't. I even questioned him about that. Here's what he said.

A little late as I already owned I was wrong and apologized for the mistake.

 

[dtgold88]

No. It proves nothing. Maybe I missed the verified screen shot of the text. I mean Watson SAYS he didn't sexually assault a couple dozen women. Does that make it true?

comparing a denial of a crime to talking to a teammate privately?

Fairly certain if Higgins said nothing or said that he never talked to Baker he would not get in trouble.

The guy saying he messaged him privately does not work for you without seeing the message he didn't want the public to see?

Yes....ya gotta love this forum.

 

[Wamu]

A little late as I already owned I was wrong and apologized for the mistake.

what adults do.

Actually adults don't accuse someone of something they didn't say in the first place.

You could have gone back a few pages and found his comment like I did. But you didn't do that. Instead you accused him of something he didn't do. Good for you.

 

[dtgold88]

Actually adults don't accuse someone of something they didn't say in the first place.

You could have gone back a few pages and found his comment like I did. But you didn't do that. Instead you accused him of something he didn't do. Good for you.

Misread the comment...owned it.......moved on.

FYI, not everyone will do that as even in this thread the person to whom I apologized wont own that he was off base on his replies about my comment about baker and the 2018 season. Or do you think the 2018 team (coming off 0-16) had a ton of talent on O and D?

I mean, you once accused me of sticking up for Freddie after a loss to seattle when I ripped him for the loss. Even with proof you took quite a while to admit you were wrong...and even tried later to make the same wrong accusation.

Hell, in this thread you said his teammates didn't stick up for Baker. I showed you proof Chubb did...ya still didn't admit you were wrong.

ya gotta love this forum.

 

[Wamu]

Misread the comment...owned it.......moved on.

FYI, not everyone will do that as even in this thread the person to whom I apologized wont own that he was off base on his replies about my comment about baker and the 2018 season. Or do you think the 2018 team (coming off 0-16) had a ton of talent on O and D?

(1)I mean, you once accused me of sticking up for Freddie after a loss to seattle when I ripped him for the loss. Even with proof you took quite a while to admit you were wrong...and even tried later to make the same wrong accusation.

(2) Hell, in this thread *you said his teammates didn't stick up for Baker.* I showed you proof Chubb did...ya still didn't admit you were wrong.

ya gotta love this forum.

(1) I admitted I was wrong about what I thought you said about Freddie when you posted the info. How interesting that you choose to ignore that fact.

But you like outright lying. It's what you do.

(2) What proof of Chubb's did you post? Was it so small it was unreadable? Pretty sure that's what you're talking about. If so why not post it again but not so small so it can be read?

** Actually I'm pretty sure I said not many. Or do you think saying not many somehow means all of them? I wouldn't put that past you to think something like that. And of the 53 man roster how many of BM's teammates have spoken up for him, is it more than two or three? That's not a good percentage.

Remember when you said you thought Hunt did nothing wrong in that Cleveland hotel?

Stop drinking directly outta Lake Erie.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

(1) I admitted I was wrong about what I thought you said about Freddie when you posted the info. How interesting that you choose to ignore that fact.

But you like outright lying. It's what you do.

(2) What proof of Chubb's did you post? Was it so small it was unreadable? Pretty sure that's what you're talking about. If so why not post it again but not so small so it can be read?

** Actually I'm pretty sure I said not many. Or do you think saying not many somehow means all of them? I wouldn't put that past you to think something like that. And of the 53 man roster how many of BM's teammates have spoken up for him, is it more than two or three? That's not a good percentage.

Remember when you said you thought Hunt did nothing wrong in that Cleveland hotel?

Stop drinking directly outta Lake Erie.

I wonder if dtgold has ever heard the phrase "Damn with faint praise" ? That's the vibe I get from Browns players.

 

[dtgold88]

(1) I admitted I was wrong about what I thought you said about Freddie when you posted the info. How interesting that you choose to ignore that fact.

But you like outright lying. It's what you do.

(2) What proof of Chubb's did you post? Was it so small it was unreadable? Pretty sure that's what you're talking about. If so why not post it again but not so small so it can be read?

** Actually I'm pretty sure I said not many. Or do you think saying not many somehow means all of them? I wouldn't put that past you to think something like that. And of the 53 man roster how many of BM's teammates have spoken up for him, is it more than two or three? That's not a good percentage.

Remember when you said you thought Hunt did nothing wrong in that Cleveland hotel?

Stop drinking directly outta Lake Erie.

Haha....this is gold Jerry. Gold

1) Yes, in the comment to which you just replied I said you admitted you were wrong....but it took quite a while for you to do so as you continued to maintain I supported Freddie despite proof I, in fact, ripped him.

2) Tried at time but was not sure how to make it bigger. But Chubb said "he's still one of my best friends. He's a great guy. I know with his intensity and his attitude, wherever he lands he'll be ready."

In addition, Higgins said he talked to him personally (not on social media) after his surgery as I showed you.

Got any direct quotes of any teammates speaking out AGAINST Baker? FYI, I say this thinking it's likely there are some who don't like him.

As for the Hunt comment, no, I do not recall saying Hunt did "nothing" wrong. If I did, please feel free to show proof of that.

 

[Wamu]

Haha....this is gold Jerry. Gold

1) Yes, in the comment to which you just replied I said you admitted you were wrong....but it took quite a while for you to do so as you continued to maintain I supported Freddie despite proof I, in fact, ripped him.

2) Tried at time but was not sure how to make it bigger. But Chubb said "he's still one of my best friends. He's a great guy. I know with his intensity and his attitude, wherever he lands he'll be ready."

In addition, Higgins said he talked to him personally (not on social media) after his surgery as I showed you.

Got any direct quotes of any teammates speaking out AGAINST Baker? FYI, I say this thinking it's likely there are some who don't like him.

As for the Hunt comment, no, I do not recall saying Hunt did "nothing" wrong. If I did, please feel free to show proof of that.

1- I admitted I was wrong immediately. But like I said you like to lie.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

To use your own words. "feel free to show proof of that"

2- okay if you say so


Again how many of BM's teammates have spoken up for him? You're acting like a couple outta 53 players is some big percentage of the team.

You're trying to take my question- how many of his teammates have spoken up for him? and turn it into me saying I've claimed all of them. Which is just yet another lie from you.

 

[dtgold88]

I wonder if dtgold has ever heard the phrase "Damn with faint praise" ? That's the vibe I get from Browns players.

The vibe I get from you is you will believe whatever supports your agenda and dismiss whatever does not.

Did Chubb have to say he was one of his best friends? Did Higgins have to kind of rip the guy asking the question to make him aware players can talk to each other without putting it on social media?

Curious what a player could say to make you believe he likes Baker as a teammate and/or person?

FYI, since I have no agenda, I also have no trouble saying it is likely some players don't care for him and his personality. Often I don't.

 

[dtgold88]

1- I admitted I was wrong immediately. But like I said you like to lie.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

To use your own words. "feel free to show proof of that"

2- okay if you say so


Again how many of BM's teammates have spoken up for him? You're acting like a couple outta 53 players is some big percentage of the team.

You're trying to take my question- how many of his teammates have spoken up for him? and turn it into me saying I've claimed all of them. Which is just yet another lie from you.

Can you show even one who spoke out against him?

As to the first comment how about we make this interesting before I look. If I find where you did not admit you were wrong immediately you donate $50 to your favorite charity?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

since I have no agenda

Yeah that's why your arguing with half dozen posters or more, including a Browns fan about every aspect of anything involving Mayfield.

 

[Wamu]

Can you show even one who spoke out against him?

As to the first comment how about we make this interesting before I look. If I find where you did not admit you were wrong immediately you donate $50 to your favorite charity?

Did I ever say any have spoken up against him?

Nope. There you go yet again trying to change things up. It won't work.

I've asked you repeatedly how many of his former teammates have spoken up for him, not many right? That's all I'm saying. Yet you seem to disagree.

And now you wanna try to turn it into how many have spoken up against him.

What's wrong with you?

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah that's why your arguing with half dozen posters or more, including a Browns fan about every aspect of anything involving Mayfield.

But also willing to rip him when warranted and glad we are replacing him with Watson

 

[dtgold88]

Did I ever say any have spoken up against him?

Nope. There you go yet again trying to change things up. It won't work.

I've asked you repeatedly how many of his former teammates have spoken up for him, not many right? That's all I'm saying. Yet you seem to disagree.

And now you wanna try to turn it into how many have spoken up against him.

What's wrong with you?

I've given you a few. And Higgins (and I) have tried to educate you that players talk to each other and don't make it public as they don't care if you or others know about it.

Have you not said teammates don't like him and/or want him around?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

But also willing to rip him when warranted and glad we are replacing him with Watson

This thread has just under 1200 posts 281 are from you, that seems ....unusual for someone who claims to be unbiased.

 

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Meanwhile...back to Mrs. Chaney's new favourite rifle...the M-Field.

 

[jarntt]

comparing a denial of a crime to talking to a teammate privately?

Fairly certain if Higgins said nothing or said that he never talked to Baker he would not get in trouble.

The guy saying he messaged him privately does not work for you without seeing the message he didn't want the public to see?

Yes....ya gotta love this forum.

The point is you threw it out there like it drove home some grand point and proved how his teammates were coming to his aid and it didn't prove shit. So take your passive aggressive, snarky BS elsewhere with your "you gotta love this forum".

 

[jarntt]

Dammit I hate defending that scumbag Watson.

I'm not saying he's completely innocent. Too many women have come forward with accusations against him.

But two separate grand juries have declined to indict him. Don't you think if there's true concrete proof that Watson's guilty of sexual assault one of those juries would have indicted him?

No I don't. And I suspect most victims of sexual assault wouldn't be surprised at all about the way the grand jury ruled

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Dammit I hate defending that scumbag Watson.

I'm not saying he's completely innocent. Too many women have come forward with accusations against him.

But two separate grand juries have declined to indict him. Don't you think if there's true concrete proof that Watson's guilty of sexual assault one of those juries would have indicted him?

Maybe they're all variations of Amber Turd.