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Is Baker Mayfield a Top 10 QB

Is Baker Mayfield a Top 10 QB


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tlance

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I write this: "I don't think we know. It depends how severe and what happened. I think it is absolutely possible that it has zero, stressing again, zero effect and it is also possible that it does have an effect. My point is that it doesn't necessarily have an effect for a QB throwing because it is the left shoulder. "

You respond with this: "So having a torn labrum on a QB's non-throwing shoulder in no way would effect mechanics?"

I get what you are saying, and agree that we don’t know the true impact.

But I also think that you saying it could have zero
Impact is a bit of an exaggeration.
 

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1/4 point of the season (kinda). Let's compare Wentz (18 in my preseason rankings) and Baker (18 in my preseason rankings) are doing thus far.

Baker: 65.5%, 935 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT, 89.7 QB rating, 59 rushing yards and 1 TD.

Wentz: 63.8%, 920 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT, 92.1 QB rating, 14 rushing yards and 0 TD.


And then just for the fuck of it let's throw Jalen Hurts in there and just see what happens, just see what the comparison ends up looking like.

Hurts: 66.2%, 1,167 yards, 7 TD, 2 INT, 101.1 QB rating, 226 yards & 1 rushing TD.
 

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1/4 point of the season (kinda). Let's compare Wentz (18 in my preseason rankings) and Baker (18 in my preseason rankings) are doing thus far.

Baker: 65.5%, 935 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT, 89.7 QB rating, 59 rushing yards and 1 TD.

Wentz: 63.8%, 920 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT, 92.1 QB rating, 14 rushing yards and 0 TD.


And then just for the fuck of it let's throw Jalen Hurts in there and just see what happens, just see what the comparison ends up looking like.

Hurts: 66.2%, 1,167 yards, 7 TD, 2 INT, 101.1 QB rating, 226 yards & 1 rushing TD.

Yeah, this is where stats can be very misleading.

The film does not tell the same story that the stats do. Hurts definitely not the best QB of these 3.
 

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Is Odell a distraction for Baker. His numbers are better when Odell doesn't play.
 

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Baker, Mr. #18

If Browns were smart they would let Baker walk and instead go all in on a Rodgers or Wilson trade.
 

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1/4 point of the season (kinda). Let's compare Wentz (18 in my preseason rankings) and Baker (18 in my preseason rankings) are doing thus far.

Baker: 65.5%, 935 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT, 89.7 QB rating, 59 rushing yards and 1 TD.

Wentz: 63.8%, 920 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT, 92.1 QB rating, 14 rushing yards and 0 TD.


And then just for the fuck of it let's throw Jalen Hurts in there and just see what happens, just see what the comparison ends up looking like.

Hurts: 66.2%, 1,167 yards, 7 TD, 2 INT, 101.1 QB rating, 226 yards & 1 rushing TD.

Yeah, this is where stats can be very misleading.

The film does not tell the same story that the stats do. Hurts definitely not the best QB of these 3.
that is because all his good stats came after his team had already lost.
I am all for the Eagles looking at these stats & saying this is our Man!

Baker at least leads his teams to victories. Not pad stats with Losses.
 

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that is because all his good stats came after his team had already lost.
I am all for the Eagles looking at these stats & saying this is our Man!

Baker at least leads his teams to victories. Not pad stats with Losses.

Hurts had the gaming winning TD today.
 

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He is for sure lower than Herbert right now
 

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This penalty was called late in the 4th on 4th down on their own 40. If the Browns stop them like likely ice, at worse get 3 points for a 2 possession lead. Calls like this make me sick as a fan. The Chargers tie the game after this call.

 

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Baker doesn't disappoint
72% 302 yards and 2 TD’s

LET HIM WALK!!! HE SUCKS!!

Meanwhile the defense gives up 47 and Joe Woods still has a job. Sometimes you just have to look at a comment like this and say, “man, what an idiot” LOL
 

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72% 302 yards and 2 TD’s

LET HIM WALK!!! HE SUCKS!!

Meanwhile the defense gives up 47 and Joe Woods still has a job. Sometimes you just have to look at a comment like this and say, “man, what an idiot” LOL
yeah & zero turnovers by the offense.
You should trade him for Hurts
 

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This penalty was called late in the 4th on 4th down on their own 40. If the Browns stop them like likely ice, at worse get 3 points for a 2 possession lead. Calls like this make me sick as a fan. The Chargers tie the game after this call.

well let me give you a run down of a referee's mind.
What did I see.
I saw the WR use the defenders jersey to elevate himself. The defender should know better than to allow that to happen
What else I saw
I saw a Pass Interference.
Now put together what you saw.
I saw a defender that should have known better & a pass Interference.
So Defensive Pass Interference!
This job is easy! :thumb:
 
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72% 302 yards and 2 TD’s

LET HIM WALK!!! HE SUCKS!!

Meanwhile the defense gives up 47 and Joe Woods still has a job. Sometimes you just have to look at a comment like this and say, “man, what an idiot” LOL

1000 yards of total offense in this game... was a bit too much offense for my liking. Like to see some defense played.
 

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72% 302 yards and 2 TD’s

LET HIM WALK!!! HE SUCKS!!

Meanwhile the defense gives up 47 and Joe Woods still has a job. Sometimes you just have to look at a comment like this and say, “man, what an idiot” LOL
He doubled his passing TDs on the season today.


Nice job Baker.
 

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This penalty was called late in the 4th on 4th down on their own 40. If the Browns stop them like likely ice, at worse get 3 points for a 2 possession lead. Calls like this make me sick as a fan. The Chargers tie the game after this call.

Anyone who reads my posts knows I'm never one to blame refs because one play doesn't win or lose a game and there are calls/no calls that go both teams ways every game even if the network doesn't see it to show on tv, but Wow. That is a horrible call. I've always said PI is one of the toughest call for officials to make in real time. Was there contact before that video started that might have led the ref to make that call?

On another note I just saw where the Browns pushed Ekelar into the end zone so they could get the ball back. That's brilliant. Chargers almost screwed themselves by not just kneeling on the ball.

edit: can't find the video of the damn play. Only thing contesting the "bad call" I saw from a Chargers fan was this:

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On 3rd and 4th downs, Baker is srguably one of the worst quarterbacks in the league
 
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