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True but he still looks like a kid, a 12 yr old one and don't know if a 250-350 lb man is gonna respect him


Win and they will. Look at BB, he was never really a large man either through the years.
 

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Win and they will. Look at BB, he was never really a large man either through the years.

Yeah but he is ugly as sin, scared the poor guys Bill ooks like a devil and Josh looks like one of New kids on the block
 

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Yeah but he is ugly as sin, scared the poor guys Bill ooks like a devil and Josh looks like one of New kids on the block


BB agrees with you,

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One thing that is different with McDaniels compared to Weiss and Crennell, is he is a kid by comparison and almost fully under BB's wing.

Isn't that part of the problem though with McDaniels is he very much is a yes man to BB. When he came to Denver his biggest issue was he thought he could be BB and the FO and players read right through that to see how fake he was being and lost all respect for the guy. A lot of these guys who leave New England try to do the Patriot Way when they leave and it just doesn't work without BB at the head of it. I mean I have never seen more players trying to get out of Denver in my life. Same with coaches as they saw how quickly McDaniels was destroying the team.
 

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Isn't that part of the problem though with McDaniels is he very much is a yes man to BB. When he came to Denver his biggest issue was he thought he could be BB and the FO and players read right through that to see how fake he was being and lost all respect for the guy. A lot of these guys who leave New England try to do the Patriot Way when they leave and it just doesn't work without BB at the head of it. I mean I have never seen more players trying to get out of Denver in my life. Same with coaches as they saw how quickly McDaniels was destroying the team.


And BB wasn't a massive success in Cleveland either.

Younger HC's get a pass with me on their first go around.
 

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And BB wasn't a massive success in Cleveland either.

Younger HC's get a pass with me on their first go around.

Not disagreeing with that as yes most coaches first time around seem to fail maybe 9 out of 10 times and the ones that do are usually either taking over for a coach that is retiring leaving a good team behind or have a very solid FO that only puts the responsibility of the new HC to just go out and coach.

I know for me I am being subjective on this matter as the guy almost destroyed my team. Maybe 2nd time around he will be a much bigger success but I just see him still trying to do the Patriot Way as he tried that with St. Louis even when he became OC and failed miserably. He seems to only thrive when with the Patriots. Everywhere else he just has done about as bad as anybody in the league.
 

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I may get blasted for this by fellow Ravens' fans, but my choice would be Tomlin.

^so you got into that Jim Beam I sent you?
 

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I dont think I want McDaniels as HC of Pats. I have seen what Weiss and Crennell have gone and done. Like mentioned some guys are great as an OC or DC. Like Rex Ryan is a real good DC but not HC imo. And Mike Martz and Turner good OC guys but not HC etc etc

Agree, and I think Denver will find out that Kubes is a great OC..... HC, not so much !!!
 

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BB always gives a reason with his cheating.


Feel free to list the "cheating".

Take your time, I know it's been tough each time you have tried to climb up that imaginary hill and failed.:yes:
 

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Top five would be:

1. Jeff Fisher
2. Jeff Fisher
3. Jeff Fisher
4. Jeff Fisher
5. Mike Tomlin
 

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I still like Andy Reid....He was born a HC.....

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Top five would be:

1. Jeff Fisher
2. Jeff Fisher
3. Jeff Fisher
4. Jeff Fisher
5. Mike Tomlin


Your first pick is horrible, the 2-4 are solid, but your last pick is just dumbfounding.
 

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Feel free to list the "cheating".

Take your time, I know it's been tough each time you have tried to climb up that imaginary hill and failed.:yes:


Hmmm? I wonder where I could dig up one little nugget about the Patriots cheating.... I may never find it. lol!


:pound:
 

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Hmmm? I wonder where I could dig up one little nugget about the Patriots cheating.... I may never find it. lol!


:pound:

Don't buy into the conspiracy theories
 

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Don't buy into the conspiracy theories

As a fan of another team it's hard not too i'llbe honest. Is there sound proof it was Harbaugh that whined about deflate gate? I don't think so but most Pats fan blame him for it... Conspiracy theory.
 

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As a fan of another team it's hard not too i'llbe honest. Is there sound proof it was Harbaugh that whined about deflate gate? I don't think so but most Pats fan blame him for it... Conspiracy theory.
who knows and I really dont care. If he did it would be a shame, seeing BB helped him get that HC job.But then again he took Mangini , who was a ballboy and bumped him up eventually to DC, to rat him out when he became head coach with Jets. I'm from the school, you dont bite the hand that feeds/fed you and you never rat out your friends
 

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Hmmm? I wonder where I could dig up one little nugget about the Patriots cheating.... I may never find it. lol!


:pound:


Yes please do, because according to you it's rampant.
 

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who knows and I really dont care. If he did it would be a shame, seeing BB helped him get that HC job.But then again he took Mangini , who was a ballboy and bumped him up eventually to DC, to rat him out when he became head coach with Jets. I'm from the school, you dont bite the hand that feeds/fed you and you never rat out your friends

It's a different world we live in today Sonny....The one we grew up in held morals high on their character list....
Morals are all but a joke in this new world society, unfortunately.....
But us old dogs learn quick, and know how to survive....Can I get witness in the house today?:D
 
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