POLL If prime Jordan played in today's NBA - would he be the best?

[SJ76]

In my day we walked to school in the snow uphill 2 miles

Players now a days are stronger, faster and better...Same way car today are built stronger, faster and better than in the 80's...

Jordans amazing highlights of "soaring through the air" look like a poor mans blake griffin in todays nba

You really have a way with words @Bart

 

[UK Cowboy]

With today's rules? No hand checking, no hard fouls at the rim...easily the best player. Look at another great player in today's game, Steph Curry, awesomely skilled player..yet when they let them play..a little..rough I'm the playoffs, he's not close to the same guy. Imagine him going against the rugby teams MJ faced in Detroit and NY. MJ could not be guarded with these rules

 

[trojanfan12]

In my day we walked to school in the snow uphill 2 miles

Players now a days are stronger, faster and better...Same way car today are built stronger, faster and better than in the 80's...

Jordans amazing highlights of "soaring through the air" look like a poor mans blake griffin in todays nba

Again, the fallacy is the assumption that the players from the past wouldn't use the advances today like today's players do.

If the technology that is in cars today was available in the 80's, then cars in the 80's would have been like today's cars.

As far as the way he plays, Lebron is a bigger, faster, stronger version of Magic. But if Magic had the use of the same advances that Lebron has, he's likely as big, strong and fast as Lebron.

 

[Black Adam]

With today's rules? No hand checking, no hard fouls at the rim...easily the best player. Look at another great player in today's game, Steph Curry, awesomely skilled player..yet when they let them play..a little..rough I'm the playoffs, he's not close to the same guy. Imagine him going against the rugby teams MJ faced in Detroit and NY. MJ could not be guarded with these rules

it IS a good point. as much as everyone hypes LeClown you'd wonder how he'd stack up if he played during Jordan's time...

 

[trojanfan12]

I like Lebron (I have a framed autographed jersey from his rookie season in my basement) — he is the most physically gifted player the NBA has seen, but not the most talented. He lacks the killer instinct the all time great had and disappears way too often when the game is on the line.

I don't like Lebron, even with him on the Lakers, but I have to disagree with this.

Lebron used to disappear with the game on the line. But that hasn't really been the case since his first season with the Heat when they lost to the Mavs.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

In my day we walked to school in the snow uphill 2 miles

Players now a days are stronger, faster and better...Same way car today are built stronger, faster and better than in the 80's...

Jordans amazing highlights of "soaring through the air" look like a poor mans blake griffin in todays nba

You do realize Jordan has the 2nd highest vertical in NBA history, right? This includes all the bigger, stronger, faster guys you speak of.

Speaking of Blake Griffin — his vertical is only 11 inches under Jordan. Ty for confirming your stupidity though by using the comparison.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I don't like Lebron, even with him on the Lakers, but I have to disagree with this.

Lebron used to disappear with the game on the line. But that hasn't really been the case since his first season with the Heat when they lost to the Mavs.

Lebron has never had the killer instinct. You are born with it and you either have it or you don’t.

As I said — in regards to physical traits, Lebron is right up there with Wilt Chamberlain as the most physically gifted players.

There is a reason why GM’s were asked who they wanted with the ball in their hand and the game on the line between Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, etc and Lebron received 0 votes.

If he had the killer instinct of Jordan and Kobe — he’d be literally unstoppable. Not everyone has it though.

 

[Hang_On_Sloopy08]

I'd say no. The best perimeter players aside from Lebron are very good to great 3 point shooters. Jordan never excelled at 3 point shooting and doesn't have the play making abilities of a Lebron, so I think he would generally fall short of the best but in the conversation occasionally.

Haters gonna hate but it’s true.

 

[trojanfan12]

Lebron has never had the killer instinct. You are born with it and you either have it or you don’t.

As I said — in regards to physical traits, Lebron is right up there with Wilt Chamberlain as the most physically gifted players.

There is a reason why GM’s were asked who they wanted with the ball in their hand and the game on the line between Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, etc and Lebron received 0 votes.

If he had the killer instinct of Jordan and Kobe — he’d be literally unstoppable. Not everyone has it though.

Yeah, I'm not saying that he has the killer instinct of MJ or Kobe. But to be fair, who does? Those 2 had/have a level of competitiveness and killer instinct that would probably qualify as a mental disorder. lol

What I'm saying is that Lebron learned to take control of the game more and not to disappear in big moments after the loss to the Mavs.

 

[SJ76]

You really need to get back in the kitchen.

Ahh the old picking on a lady in the kitchen. Impressive

 

[SJ76]

ShaqDaddy needs to change her avatar to something more appropriate.

Same page in the thread? Picking on the woman in the kitchen? Who makes the sandwiches you or @lebron23james

 

[Clayton]

In MJ's prime, in the playoffs, he was getting to the line 13 times a game and getting six assists or so a game and shooting 50%+ from 2pt territory. He has a real quickness to him where he could get to full speed in one step and then have full control over his shot in the next. MJ was built for the modern game. Yeah, he'd have to improve his 3pt shot a tad bit but he still could've reverted into Kobe if he needed to.

I do think if MJ and Lebron were in the same era, it would be a Magic vs Bird kind of debate. Lebron might have actually been even better if he was in the older era. I'd still take MJ but Lebron is going to go down as a top 4 player.

 

[SJ76]

 

[trojanfan12]

Same page in the thread? Picking on the woman in the kitchen? Who makes the sandwiches you or @lebron23james

I don't care which one is making them. But I'll take one with deli sliced rare roast beef, swiss cheese and some horseradish.

Some deviled egg potato salad on the side would be nice too.

 

[SJ76]

I don't care which one making them. But I'll take one with deli sliced rare roast beef, swiss cheese and some horseradish.

Some deviled egg potato salad on the side would be nice too.

I’m with you. Potato salad and gimme a dam Cuban sammich hold the pickle.

 

[SJ76]

speaking of holding pickles...


@lebron23james loves wearing his favorite t-shirt of @Bart holding his pickle

 

[Clayton]

The pickle is what make the Cuban, though...

 

[SJ76]

The pickle is what make the Cuban, though...

That’s what she said..

I’m not a pickle fan never have been. Gimme the meat and sawwce

 

[SJ76]

In MJ's prime, in the playoffs, he was getting to the line 13 times a game and getting six assists or so a game and shooting 50%+ from 2pt territory. He has a real quickness to him where he could get to full speed in one step and then have full control over his shot in the next. MJ was built for the modern game. Yeah, he'd have to improve his 3pt shot a tad bit but he still could've reverted into Kobe if he needed to.

I do think if MJ and Lebron were in the same era, it would be a Magic vs Bird kind of debate. Lebron might have actually been even better if he was in the older era. I'd still take MJ but Lebron is going to go down as a top 4 player.

Good post. I think most rational b-ball fans have Jordan and Lebron at 1a and 1b. We've had the Jordan vs Lebron threads from time to time and usually most can agree they were different times. This is the first Jordan bashing thread I’ve seen and by a Lebron homer and his alt. Which makes it even more fun

 

[BamaDude]

No. He's too damned old.