I'd rather have Tristan or Whiteside Poll

[trojanfan12]

OBJECTION!!!

asked and answered



and....

Just as I thought, you have no clue what the question even was anymore.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

the cost: 1 testicle...

What makes you think he ever had any to begin with?

Just asking

 

[True Lakers Fan]

apparently Timo Mozgov HELPEd the Lakers get LeBron. LOL

oh man, i have heard it all know.

You guys all smell like burnt toast right about now.

Well actually - getting rid of Mozgov enabled the Lakers to be in the position to sign LeBron. You're welcome for the correction

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I believe it is.

Dry Ice?

But you wouldn't know about that

 

[WiggyRuss]

Well actually - getting rid of Mozgov enabled the Lakers to be in the position to sign LeBron. You're welcome for the correction

uhh yah that was my point there slugger. You had to get rid of Mozgov in order to clear the cap space.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Just as I thought, you have no clue what the question even was anymore.

hey you can say whatever you want slugger, its a free world

i am just enjoying being 1000% right on Whiteside.

I said that the Heat would regret signing him- and he is unceremoniously dumped for Meyers Leonard - who isnt really even playable, and Moe Harkless who it took a first round pick for another team to take even though he has an expiring contract

after 3 years with Whiteside on his new deal the Heat won nothing. Whiteside had his playing time steadily decreased- while his whining steadily increased- and then he was dumped for shit.

You cant rain on this parade muchacho.

#timevindicates

 

[True Lakers Fan]

uhh yah that was my point there slugger. You had to get rid of Mozgov in order to clear the cap space.

You do realize that was a good move- Granted that LeBron is getting older, has lost a few steps and might be injury prone, that was still better than Mozgov and Deng which had to be the worst moves ever made by the Lakers and While some people believes that the Clippers are better, I don't - IF the Lakers can avoid injuries - they have a deeper team. I know Clippers aren't don't signing role players, but looks as if the Lakers were well prepared for Leonard going some where else and Oh, by the way - that's not what you little boy - You said Mozgov helped the Lakers get LeBron.

Nothing further from the truth could be said. Signing Mozgov and Deng nearly cost the Lakers, the chance they had to sign LeBron and getting rid of one of them and dumping good players undid some of the damaged that nearly cost the Lakers that chance. Had smarter moves been made - like not signing those two knuckleheads, the Lakers would have been considerably stronger and a better team last year. Imagine if the Lakers had been able to keep Lou Williams to play with LeBron instead.

 

[dtgold88]

So are Wiggins and Klay...

wiggins is asked to be a shooter, and not much else? Klay is asked to occasionally run the offense?

 

[dtgold88]

So tell me the difference then?

Klay is a different type of player because he’s a better shooter and scorer. That’s the only thing.

Both play the same position, both are the #2 or #3 option on the team. Neither are expected to be primary ball handler.

You’re confusing the fact Klay is clearly a better player.

But cute attempt at the trash talk though Wiggy 2.0

Klay shoots and does little else. wiggins is asked to run the offense, get to the hoop as well as shoot.

 

[dtgold88]

And in the world according to dtgold88, the way to judge the better player is but how much money he makes?

No, but it's a factor when they are similar otherwise.

 

[dtgold88]

There is a reason I am not chiming in....the Cavs defense was pretty awful...like really awful but that definitely has a lot to do with the defense as whole...so bad on the perimeter and inside LOL.
TT did only play half the season and Love didn't play much at all BUT the Love-TT combo isn't necessarily bringing defense to the court. Love is an amazing rebounder and stretch 4, he can play on the block when needed. I actually would like him to play on the block A LOT more this season. TT is a great rebounder (offensively especially), a big that can guard the perimeter but can't really protect the rim. At one point in his career he was decent but really wasn't his purpose.

Only area I disagree is idea TT can't protect the rim. He is certainly not among the best in this area, but he also is asked more to help switch onto the perimeter as is among the top big men in that area.

 

[dtgold88]

I can't figure out if you are this obtuse for the joke, or you really think you are on a winning argument here.

Just about every team that has a championship still has areas that they are weak. Cavs front court was extremely lacking in the front court because Love and Thompson are not compatible. The Cavs won a chapmionship because the TEAM was better in other areas.

Your argument is no different than your points and rebounds argument with Thompson and Whiteside. All you can see is the surface level on basketball.

You said they could not succeed without a rim protector along with TT. Either you think Love was a rim protector or they did not succeed.

Lie, dance, deflect, distort. You cannot overcome that foolish comment.

But I'll laugh watching you try.

 

[dtgold88]

Obviously lost him for nothing so that his salary freed up from the cap. Don't know how that point drives home TT being better than WH though?

There has never been a time the Cavs would have wanted to release TT and get nothing for him.

That said, I'm not sure TT is better. It's close IMO. But for $9 mil less I'll take TT.

 

[dtgold88]

That is what the heat ended up with in the trade. They did also give up Richardson and a 1st, but they did not take a bunch of bad salary back.

You want to give them credit for having to deal their best player by skill/value in order to pick up a FA? AND a 1st rounder?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

hey you can say whatever you want slugger, its a free world

i am just enjoying being 1000% right on Whiteside.

I said that the Heat would regret signing him- and he is unceremoniously dumped for Meyers Leonard - who isnt really even playable, and Moe Harkless who it took a first round pick for another team to take even though he has an expiring contract

after 3 years with Whiteside on his new deal the Heat won nothing. Whiteside had his playing time steadily decreased- while his whining steadily increased- and then he was dumped for shit.

You cant rain on this parade muchacho.

#timevindicates

What was the Heat supposed to win?
You can rank that thought/comment right up there with your other 1000+ ridiculous ones.

As far as the rest of the post.
Again, totally wrong.
You know exactly why.
No reason to recap again.

 

[dtgold88]

I notice in all your critiques you leave out the fact that they also got Jimmy Butler out of all of it. Wonder what the reason for that would be.

Because he is really good.

But what does that have to do with no one wanting whiteside?

 

[dtgold88]

But....Miami was still able to get Butler.....even though you were derping around in another thread "Derrrr, how's Miami going to be able to pull that off!?!?!?! Derrrrrrrrr"

This part is true. He was wrong in saying they could not get Butler.....but not in the fact he'd have been easier to get if they never resigned HW.

 

[Heatles84]

There has never been a time the Cavs would have wanted to release TT and get nothing for him.

That said, I'm not sure TT is better. It's close IMO. But for $9 mil less I'll take TT.

Guaranteed if an all-star FA wanted to come to Cleveland and TT was taking up space it'd be a different story. But I'll give you that at least, both players are overpaid. And Whiteside's not worth the $27 mil he's taking up.

 

[Mebert]

You want to give them credit for having to deal their best player by skill/value in order to pick up a FA? AND a 1st rounder?

Nope, that entire argument has been about the original claim the the Heat took a ton of bad salary back in the trade. After he moved the goal post several times pointing out other things I added that every team over the cap has to sacrifice to add a max contract. Using the Warriors addition of Russell for the example.

 

[Heatles84]

This part is true. He was wrong in saying they could not get Butler.....but not in the fact he'd have been easier to get if they never resigned HW.

This is very true. It's hard forming your roster years out while trying to remain competitive. You'd have to sign 1-year deals for every player to put yourself in a situation to where you can get an all-star FA.At the time of the signing, Whiteside was coming into his own. Didn't work out exactly as planned, but Miami came out of this situation in pretty decent shape.