I Love Trades: Rumor Time

[PhillyPhaithful48]

We would have taken JJ yesterday and probably would have overpaid for him.

 

[forty_three]

Send Dustin Brown, Dustin Penner, Jarret Stoll, Jonathan Bernier, Thomas Hickey and a 1st to Columbus for Jeff Carter and Rick Nash.

AND send Jack Johnson to the Wild for Dany Heatley.

Heatley - Kopitar - Williams
Nash - Richards - Carter
Clifford - Loktionov - Nolan
Richardson - Fraser - Lewis
Scuderi - Doughty
Mitchell - Voynov
Martinez - Greene
Quick
Zatkoff

I might actually do that if I am C-bus. Don't know who the centerpiece of the team becomes at that point, but that's a ver solid return for a guy is not going to stay anyway and another who should, but really has no reason to.

Or, better yet, send Mason and Brassard to Minnesota for Dany Heatley.

And then Carter, Pahlsson and a pick (or two) to SJ for Jumbo Joe.

Nash - Thornton - Umberger
Heatley - Johansen - Prospal
MacKenzie - Vermette - Dorsett
Kulikov - Atkinson - Russell/Boll/Mayorov

Tyutin - Nikitin
Wiz - Methot
Savard - Clitsome
Golubef/FA hole filler

Sanford
FA depth/Dekanich

Goaltending, as always an issue. As is depth. But I'd be fine with that crew on the ice.

 

[Automattic]

I wish Detroit would hurry up and pick up somebody like Spacek so I can be all like "Meh."...and then we can start the playoffs.

 

[filosofy29]

I might actually do that if I am C-bus. Don't know who the centerpiece of the team becomes at that point, but that's a ver solid return for a guy is not going to stay anyway and another who should, but really has no reason to.

Or, better yet, send Mason and Brassard to Minnesota for Dany Heatley.

And then Carter, Pahlsson and a pick (or two) to SJ for Jumbo Joe.

Nash - Thornton - Umberger
Heatley - Johansen - Prospal
MacKenzie - Vermette - Dorsett
Kulikov - Atkinson - Russell/Boll/Mayorov

Tyutin - Nikitin
Wiz - Methot
Savard - Clitsome
Golubef/FA hole filler

Sanford
FA depth/Dekanich

Goaltending, as always an issue. As is depth. But I'd be fine with that crew on the ice.

How about Jumbo for Carter and Johansen???

And yes, I know Jumbo isn't going anywhere.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I wish Detroit would hurry up and pick up somebody like Spacek so I can be all like "Meh."...and then we can start the playoffs.

The Wings got outbid for Kubina. It's going to be interesting to see what Holland does that's for sure.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

The Wings got outbid for Kubina. It's going to be interesting to see what Holland does that's for sure.

Since the lockout Holland hasn't got into bidding wars over guys, especially depth guys. He'll look at a player's worth, look at what similar guys have gotten in return for trade value, and if it's worth it to him he'll make an offer. If the other guy wants the world or if other teams start throwing more and more into their offers, Holland walks. Kenny's not going to overpay for a guy who's not top four, especially if it means he's going to have to waive another depth guy to make it work.

edit: If Holland brings in Kubina, he probably has to waive Commodore or a depth forward... so he's not just trading draft picks, he's also risking losing another piece. Not worth it for someone who's not going to see significant minutes.

 

[rares]

Send Dustin Brown, Dustin Penner, Jarret Stoll, Jonathan Bernier, Thomas Hickey and a 1st to Columbus for Jeff Carter and Rick Nash

Whoa... insane overpayment by the Kings on that one, IMO.

Dustin Brown has got to be worth more than the part he'd play in that thread, isn't he?

 

[beantownmaniac]

Krejci, Hamilton (high Bruins prospect), and a #1 for Corey Perry or Bobby Ryan.

 

[banditshcky11]

It's funny but what CBJ is rumored to be looking for Nash, I'm not even sure if I'd give up for Weber(if he had the same contract as Nash) and Weber is arguably the best player at his position in the league.

Not if I was GM of the current Flyers team at least.

 

[forty_three]

How about Jumbo for Carter and Johansen???

And yes, I know Jumbo isn't going anywhere.

Not Johansen. Only person I would trade Ry Jo for is Jason Spezza. Because that's who he's gonna be in a few years.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

It's funny but what CBJ is rumored to be looking for Nash, I'm not even sure if I'd give up for Weber(if he had the same contract as Nash) and Weber is arguably the best player at his position in the league.

Not if I was GM of the current Flyers team at least.

I guess Nashville is just not shopping Weber. I don't see how we would be willing to give up so much for Nash, but not hear any Weber rumors.

 

[Ho_Brah]

Whoa... insane overpayment by the Kings on that one, IMO.

Dustin Brown has got to be worth more than the part he'd play in that thread, isn't he?

something has to be done. a little tweaking doesn't help. A major overhaul is needed. Not so much character guys, but they've been known to put pucks in the net for sure.

 

[forty_three]

I get the distinct sense that Howson has caught so much flack for the whole fiasco that he's just throwing ridiculous demands out there. If no one bites, Nash stays and he can say "hey I tried".

If someone DOES sell the farm for Nash, it's mission accomplished. In the situation, it's actually a no lose prospect for him.


Until he gets fired for getting himself into the mess in the first place.


Hawaiian, what do you think it takes to get Bernier and a mid level D man? Is Carter enough? Does Bernier really have a chance to play there long term, or do you need to make that move?

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

Hawaiian, what do you think it takes to get Bernier and a mid level D man? Is Carter enough? Does Bernier really have a chance to play there long term, or do you need to make that move?

We'll give you Voracek and Couturier for Bernier just to spite Carter

 

[banditshcky11]

We'll give you Voracek and Couturier for Bernier just to spite Carter

No we won't, however...

If LA is really looking to shake things up that bad I'm sure the Flyers would be happy to oblige. How about Briere, JVR, Carle & a 1st for Brown, JJ & Bernier?

The money is close to working out, I think 30k in overages for LA but that could disappear in a few days. It would definitely provide LA with some more offense and you have the cap space to make it work, 14m in cap with 19 players signed next year.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

The problem is Howson can get a huge package of players in return and there's a really slim chance he'll get anyone who ever gets close to what Nash is now. If Nash was a UFA or had an expiring contract in the summer of 2013 I can see it, but Nash has a long career ahead of him.

 

[Ho_Brah]

I get the distinct sense that Howson has caught so much flack for the whole fiasco that he's just throwing ridiculous demands out there. If no one bites, Nash stays and he can say "hey I tried".

If someone DOES sell the farm for Nash, it's mission accomplished. In the situation, it's actually a no lose prospect for him.


Until he gets fired for getting himself into the mess in the first place.


Hawaiian, what do you think it takes to get Bernier and a mid level D man? Is Carter enough? Does Bernier really have a chance to play there long term, or do you need to make that move?

Bernier, no doubt, will be a number 1 goalie for a team in the near future. He has taken some time to develop and too be fair, his limited ice time has been attributed to Quick's solid goaltending over the years.

Quick's contract will be up in a year, and LA can't afford to keep two potential no. 1 goalies. Manchester has some solid proven prospects that are NHL ready, in net, at the blue line and fwds. So I'm not too worried about giving up JJ or Bernier.

 

[forty_three]

Bernier, no doubt, will be a number 1 goalie for a team in the near future. He has taken some time to develop and too be fair, his limited ice time has been attributed to Quick's solid goaltending over the years.

Quick's contract will be up in a year, and LA can't afford to keep two potential no. 1 goalies. Manchester has some solid proven prospects that are NHL ready, in net, at the blue line and fwds. So I'm not too worried about giving up JJ or Bernier.

Soooo, Jack Johnson and Bernier for Carter?

 

[Ho_Brah]

No we won't, however...

If LA is really looking to shake things up that bad I'm sure the Flyers would be happy to oblige. How about Briere, JVR, Carle & a 1st for Brown, JJ & Bernier?

The money is close to working out, I think 30k in overages for LA but that could disappear in a few days. It would definitely provide LA with some more offense and you have the cap space to make it work, 14m in cap with 19 players signed next year.

no thanks.

 

[filosofy29]

Not Johansen. Only person I would trade Ry Jo for is Jason Spezza. Because that's who he's gonna be in a few years.

Sorry about that 43, I forgot the magic word.

Thornton for Carter and Ryan Johansen please.