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I don't like dipoto anymore

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I hear we are interested in Lind now. With the way things are going I'm sure it will cost Alex Jackson.
 

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I go way back with Mr. Vortex. Let him pile on. Pats fans deserve it today....
Word. I've been kicking your ass across three message boards and 7 years.
 

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You are on the Carson "Aroldis" Smith bandwagon, too? I can't wait to see this guy in action!


Only pitcher with a groundball rate of 60% and K Rate of 32%

And Im not crowning Carson Smith, he obviously has a live arm and major upside, while Wade Miley is no better than most guys you could pluck from your minor league system, or pick up in a very low level trade......Shit, the Yankees would have driven Ivan Nova to Seattle for either of the 2 pieces the Red Sox just got
 

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I hear we are interested in Lind now. With the way things are going I'm sure it will cost Alex Jackson.
Ummm, no. We won't get off that cheap. I'm think Walker and Marte.
 

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Only pitcher with a groundball rate of 60% and K Rate of 32%

And Im not crowning Carson Smith, he obviously has a live arm and major upside, while Wade Miley is no better than most guys you could pluck from your minor league system, or pick up in a very low level trade......Shit, the Yankees would have driven Ivan Nova to Seattle for either of the 2 pieces the Red Sox just got

I guess you have to face reality that Wade Miley has more trade value than Ivan Nova.
 

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I guess you have to face reality that Wade Miley has more trade value than Ivan Nova.
I hear we offered Kyle Seagar for Ivan Nova with $40 million kicked in to help the small market Yankees meet payroll.
 

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I guess you have to face reality that Wade Miley has more trade value than Ivan Nova.


Sure, thats why I would take either Elias or Smith

getting both is absolute robbery....It wouldnt surprise me in the very least if Elias alone is better than Miley in 2016, not even accounting for the 100mph fireballer that was just "thrown in"
 

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Word. I've been kicking your ass across three message boards and 7 years.

Over that time, you have won the message board battle, but Boston teams have won 6 titles. And you did hand the Pats the SB last year. You also lost the Sonics along the way. It's a fair trade-off.
 

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Sure, thats why I would take either Elias or Smith

getting both is absolute robbery....It wouldnt surprise me in the very least if Elias alone is better than Miley in 2016, not even accounting for the 100mph fireballer that was just "thrown in"

Elias hasn't shown much of anything yet. And the Yankees have already gotten their gift from the Mariners in the form of Pineda and overpaying Cano. And Tino Martinez.
 

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Over that time, you have won the message board battle, but Boston teams have won 6 titles. And you did hand the Pats the SB last year. You also lost the Sonics along the way. It's a fair trade-off.
I've also been breathing clean air, drinking clean water, hiking alpine trails, skiing, hunting, fishing and riding a my Harley down beautiful country roads. Meanwhile, you've breathing polluted air while residing in a metropolis of 13 million people. Southern California jumped the shark 40 years ago.
 

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Elias hasn't shown much of anything yet. And the Yankees have already gotten their gift from the Mariners in the form of Pineda and overpaying Cano. And Tino Martinez.
Pineda. LOL. He's been there for four years and still hasn't pitched the equivalent of a complete season yet. Add in his poor work ethic and bad influence on younger Latino players, and he is addition by subtraction.
 

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I've also been breathing clean air, drinking clean water, hiking alpine trails, skiing, hunting, fishing and riding a my Harley down beautiful country roads. Meanwhile, you've breathing polluted air while residing in a metropolis of 13 million people. Southern California jumped the shark 40 years ago.

Los Angeles jumped the shark long ago. Orange County is merely in the process of jumping the shark. But it is 80 degrees here today.....could be worse.
 

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Fuck, I really hope DiP stops making trades.
It's a little to late for that. He still needs to replace the two first basemen and a two closers he traded away.
 

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Pineda. LOL. He's been there for four years and still hasn't pitched the equivalent of a complete season yet. Add in his poor work ethic and bad influence on younger Latino players, and he is addition by subtraction.

You could cut off his pitching arm and he's STILL be better than Jesus Montero.
 

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Los Angeles jumped the shark long ago. Orange County is merely in the process of jumping the shark. But it is 80 degrees here today.....could be worse.
I'm from Alaska. I'm miserable when it is 80 degrees out. I prefer 45-55.
 

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I'm pretty puzzled unless this team is strapped for $$$ which is stupid. Why not spend a little more money on a Kazmir and not trade away Elias and Smith. Yes this upgrades the rotation but you could have done that without moving pieces. Gotta say this is first real head scratcher from Dipoto in my mind

Mariners take on more payroll commitment in the trade than the Red Sox from this trade. Miley makes and will continue making more than Elias.
 

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Elias hasn't really shown much. He hasn't even been league average. He might be a bullpen guy, but I doubt they put him in the rotation. He's probably just depth for now. Miley has had some good moments(in ARZ). Don't write him off yet.

I don't know much about Carson Smith. I'll have to take your word for it. His numbers are insane, but RP's can be a crapshoot from 1 year to the next.

Smith has great stuff. He's not one of those guys who just had a lucky year. He has closer material pitches.
 
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