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We all have the right to take a stand on what we believe to be true. We all have the right to speak about it if you wish.

This forum would be non-existent if that was not true.
 

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We all have the right to take a stand on what we believe to be true. We all have the right to speak about it if you wish.

This forum would be non-existent if that was not true.

Why do people keep responding to criticism of Timmay with this? OF COURSE he has the right to stand up for what he believes he. Nobody here has said anything to the contrary.

Many of us just enjoy exercising the same right to criticize his dumb ass. :)
 

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Why do people keep responding to criticism of Timmay with this? OF COURSE he has the right to stand up for what he believes he. Nobody here has said anything to the contrary.

Many of us just enjoy exercising the same right to criticize his dumb ass. :)


Sigh.

I am not taking your bait anymore. You love to act like the reasonable one when in FACT you are the instigator.
 

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Sigh.

I am not taking your bait anymore. You love to act like the reasonable one when in FACT you are the instigator.

Not instigating anything. I don't agree with him. I fully agree with his right to say what he believes. That's it.
 

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You know what? Any religion that says I can't eat bacon is a religion I want no part of.

As for Chick-Fil-A or however you spell it, they can believe whatever they want to and say whatever they want to, and it will not affect my purchases one bit (or at least it wouldn't if I knew where one was). They are a food joint. They sell food. Unless they are grinding up gay people and putting them IN the food, their stance on homosexuality and gay marriage is irrelevant to me and likely the vast majority of the country. Not sure why Tim Thomas or anyone else at all cares.
 

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You know what? Any religion that says I can't eat bacon is a religion I want no part of.

As for Chick-Fil-A or however you spell it, they can believe whatever they want to and say whatever they want to, and it will not affect my purchases one bit (or at least it wouldn't if I knew where one was). They are a food joint. They sell food. Unless they are grinding up gay people and putting them IN the food, their stance on homosexuality and gay marriage is irrelevant to me and likely the vast majority of the country. Not sure why Tim Thomas or anyone else at all cares.

I did hear they only use gay chickens, maybe that's why the food tastes so good. Slovenly straight chickens need to get their lazy asses to the gym.
 

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I would say that "not agreeing with homosexuality" is mild homophobia. I mean, if you don't agree with it, than you're against it, right? You think there's something wrong with it? That's homophobia, no?

What really pisses me off is how some of the Christian right seems to think they've got dibs on the word "marriage". Fuck that. If the goverment uses the word 'marriage', then it transcends any single religion. Can two buddhists get married? Two atheists? Yes? Then what the fuck does Christianity have to do with it?

Saying that a gay couple shouldn't have the same rights as a straight couple is homophobic. Pretty damn simple.

No, not at all. I have learned to just deal with people as I've aged. I still do not agree with it. Not agreeing with it isn't necessarilly "against it". I am not marching the streets saying they should be tied together and burned at the stake... I just don't think it is biologically correct.

I may not be as conservatively radical as Tim Thomas, but I favor traditional values in some senses. I completely loathe organized religion and have recently not cared about gays being wed, but I will and always will have a strong stance against gays adopting children. I have nothing but respect for Thomas standing up for what he believes in. And I am also completely against the Mayor of Boston openly telling the president of Chick-Fil-A to not bring his business to Boston. We have freedom of speech here, and freedom to believe and stand for whatever we want... For a city to openly push business away is fucking ridiculous.

But everyone has their opinions... Ans I seem to be in the minority here.
 
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I would call it a mild form of homophobia... what do someone mean when they say they "don't agree with homosexuality"? That it's morally wrong? That people should choose to be straight?

Put another way, can somebody say "I don't agree with interracial marriages" and claim not to be racist?

But it's a gray zone, sure. Whereas, as you pointed out, restricting legal rights for gays, is a bit more black and white.

After looking up the actual definition of "homophobic", I guess you'd actually be correct. Although I now don't really agree with the definition. A phobia is a fear of something, because you don't think something is correct does not mean you fear it. But regardless, my previous post outlines my sentiment on the matter.
 

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For a city to openly push business away is fucking ridiculous.

What if the city were to push business away, but be closeted about it? ;)

I did hear they only use gay chickens, maybe that's why the food tastes so good. Slovenly straight chickens need to get their lazy asses to the gym.

Lmao. Nice one, Shack.

They are a food joint. They sell food. Unless they are grinding up gay people and putting them IN the food, their stance on homosexuality and gay marriage is irrelevant to me and likely the vast majority of the country. Not sure why Tim Thomas or anyone else at all cares.

That seems like a pretty fair point of view. I do think this boycott thing is pretty big though. To be honest, I've never liked Chick-Fil-A and never eat there anyway.
 
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You know what? Any religion that says I can't eat bacon is a religion I want no part of.

As for Chick-Fil-A or however you spell it, they can believe whatever they want to and say whatever they want to, and it will not affect my purchases one bit (or at least it wouldn't if I knew where one was). They are a food joint. They sell food. Unless they are grinding up gay people and putting them IN the food, their stance on homosexuality and gay marriage is irrelevant to me and likely the vast majority of the country. Not sure why Tim Thomas or anyone else at all cares.

If only Charlton Heston were alive to scream "Chick-Fil-A is people!"
 

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Of course you all will sit behind your monitors and laugh because this man is taking a stance. I wasn't aware that not agreeing with homosexuality and favoring traditional values renders one a "homophobe".

Right there with ya, JS. People don't realize that you can be for traditional marriage and not hate gay people. I have some pretty close friends who also just happen to be gay. We manage to get along just fine without resorting to calling each other homophobes or anti-Christian bigots. I wish more people could be like that.
 

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Right there with ya, JS. People don't realize that you can be for traditional marriage and not hate gay people. I have some pretty close friends who also just happen to be gay. We manage to get along just fine without resorting to calling each other homophobes or anti-Christian bigots. I wish more people could be like that.

If you are trying to suppress peoples' rights to equality, then you are "anti". This isn't about the right to be gay, this about the right to enter into a civil contract if you happen to be gay.

I was a bit reluctant to use the word homophobe, as does imply a "fear of...". And that's not specifically the case here (without another Orwellian step that the reason you suppress a group is because you fear them).

Denying a group of consenting adults the right to enter into a legal contract is simply unfair.
Timmy certainly has the right to his opinion, in the same way I have the right to call him a bigoted fucktard for that opinion.
 

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I need hockey. I have too much free time to just care about shit that I don't care about.
 

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I think there is a difference between not agreeing with something and giving 2 million dollars a year to groups that oppose that something. In my opinion its not just being opposed to it, its actively being against it. That is their right to do, just like its people's right to speak against it.
 

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I think there is a difference between not agreeing with something and giving 2 million dollars a year to groups that oppose that something. In my opinion its not just being opposed to it, its actively being against it. That is their right to do, just like its people's right to speak against it.

See I thought that he gave money to pro-traditional family groups. That totally makes sense since his religion teaches that marriage is between a man and woman. I think that is quite different from giving money to a group that's sole person is to just hate on gay people (like the God Hates Fags guy for example).
 
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