Wentz has a 1% better completion percentage and about 47 yards more per game passing; however, he is averaging .6 less per attempt than TH. That is very telling. TD-int is comparable but yes CW is slightly ahead and only 2% ahead on rating. CW also gets sacked twice as much each game costing us twice as many yards, putting the offense in horrible positions to sustain drives and tiring out his defense. That is why Wentz has a QBR of 33 and TH is over 44. That is also why TH is averaging 22.5 PPG and CW only 17. Isn’t the job of the offense to score?
So let me ask you this. The same people are making the calls, why has that improved? Or is that just the perception based on limitations and situations CW put the team in?
I am also not saying he makes individual players around him better. I am saying he makes the team better than when it has CW.
I think you are overlooking the ability to stay with the run because we are not being put into a position requiring the pass. We are sustaining drives, far fewer three and outs, and manageable down and distance because we are not falling behind and taking poor sacks.
I liked the pickup at first as well Dean however, it is evident that Wentz will not snap back to his rookie type performance before getting hurt and our window of opportunity has about 2 years on it before slamming shut. I see what RR & staff was looking at with Wentz however, he just is not the same QB anymore. We really should have landed Garappolo like I said back then but got beat up for. Ron & staff will keep looking this off season once again for another strong armed QB to lead us beginning next year. TH is a great story, good back up QB and I am glad he is on the team. Let's savor this run we are on and enjoy it!
This is spot on kbso!
Let's savor this run we are on and enjoy it!
Yep, I used to kill the posters who couldn't wait to run Alex Smith outta town. They pointed to his stats and I pointed to the W/L record. All he did was win here. I'm trying to take my own advice and not be a hypocrite. All TH has done for the most part is win. So I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the ride as long as it lasts.
my thing with CDC was the trade . , that and a poster who thought he was the 2nd coming as well
Damn it. I wanted to mention ypa. A lotta people and I'm included in that group believe that generally speaking ypa is the most telling stat among the stats of QBs. 6.4 which is Wentz's ypa over 6 games is unacceptable. Taylor's 7.0 ypa is respectable. And the sacks are important as well though some of them have to be attributed to play calling imo. Personally I think Turner had Wentz passing too much. In his first 4 games he had 40+ att and another game with 38 att. Taylor's high in his 5 games is 33 att, he had 31 att in another game and 3 games under 30 att. And I'm not sure if the running game has improved significantly during Taylor's tenure, but it has been employed more during his tenure. And sure, its the job of the offense to score. Just as its the job of the offensive play caller to call plays to help increase the odds of scoring. I believe the play calling in that regard has been better under Taylor than it was under Wentz. Which imo has worked hand in hand with the defense giving up less points per game in Taylor's 5 games. Look at the Skins FG kicking. In the first 3 games they didn't even attempt a FG, in the first 5 games only 2 were tried and in 6 games a total of 5 were attempted with 4 being made. In the last 5 games the Skins have attempted 13 with 12 being made.
I think Turner became however you wanna say it, mindful, cautious, scared of looking back at a game n seeing that Taylor had 37 or more pass attempts. Maybe Turner and RR looked back at some games, 1st Philly game (even behind at 24-0 at the half) and the Dallas game and thought did we have to call 52 pass plays in the Philly game when you include the 9 sacks and 46 pass plays when you include the 2 sacks n 2 intentional groundings in the Dallas game. If they did that, I can see them saying no, we didn't. Particularly in the Dallas game where they had 142 rushing yards on 27 carries. That of course is all speculation on my part.
We're on the same page then.
If you listen to any sports talk shows in the daytime its impossible not to hear about Dallas. Hell, you'd think them, the Chiefs and the Bills are the only teams with names in the NFL and all the other teams are named the other guys. its a little sickening really.
I wanted to trade for Alex, but I did think what we gave up was a little excessive. I just remember all the Keenum would be just as good here as Alex and when he got here we lost a bunch of games. To your credit, you were never in favor of the trade.
I am mostly always against giving up multiple picks and/or players for one guy be it wince , CDC , Dcrap , RGME
