Goodell Says Deflategate Ruling May Come Next Week

[NWPATSFAN]

Since the NFLPA has now shut the door on any back room deals by telling the world that if the suspension isn't entirely revoked they will go to court, they must believe that Brady is totally innocent. The NFLPA attorneys and Brady's attorneys must have gone over his cell phone with a fine toothed comb. If they had found anything that could have linked Brady to anything, they would have been silent. That and I think they have a couple of aces up their sleeve. I have no idea what it may be, but they want a public fight and they want it bad.

That being said, I honestly believe that Goodell is holding back because some of the owners are probably thinking that this could be much more costly than they originally thought. More than a few might be a bit nervous about some of their past actions, both private and public. No one wants dirty laundry hung out for everyone to see.

The absolute best scenario for Goodell is to publicly announced that the four game suspension has been revoked. The reason is that there has been no evidence submitted by the Wells Report or any of the 400 witnesses that Tom Brady had anything to do with tampering of the footballs. Then say that Brady is being fined $250000 for not cooperating 100% with Ted Wells during the investigation. He clears Brady, stays out of court and saves some face by getting 1 oz of flesh.

The haters in here will forever say that the fine is proof that Brady cheated and some of us will continually get sucked into a stupid argument because we just can't stand people who opine with pure bullshit. But that's for another day.

One final note......Goodell must come forth with his decision in a reasonable timeframe according to the NFL Rules. Tom Curran of NESN jokingly stated that meant he will wait until March 2016. After all, what's reasonable to the NFL?

They have Hammer, Money and Tgann. They were certainley there with all the claims they make of Brady and the Pats being guilty.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Goodell didn't elaborate on which next week......

When I fisrt heard this I was this is similar to more than probable. Just goes to show you a good product can sell regardless.

 

[BigKen]

I was listening o the radio in my "new" 2000 Mazda B3000 s 4WD Pickup I bought Friday. There was an attorney from Georgetown on the radio expressing why he thinks Roger Goodell is in a pickle. The NFL based a four game suspension and basically a $1.88M fine on Tom Brady for not cooperating with the Ted Wells Investigation. This lawyer said he read The Report and said that he was shocked that an attorney of Ted Wells' stature would ever write anything like that.

To his understanding, Brady was interviewed by Wells twice. He said that's very cooperative. Not turning over a cell phone to any investigator is exercising your right to privacy because once you give to someone, they can read every text or email regardless of the other person with the text. Personal emails between husband and wife, attorney protected emails and others would be exposed to people who could possibly do irreparable harm to your personal and business as well as public life. Any attorney who practices law knows that unless you get a court order, cell phones are taboo. He also said that courts reject cell phone requests more than 60% of the time.

He said the biggest legal obstacle the NFL will encounter is that Wells used words like "probably" and "might" and does not support it those probabilities with any facts or even as much as a hint in the report. He said that when you make suppositions in a public document, you must substantiate those with something that places the person in a position before, during or after the fact. He said that the report does nothing of the sort.

Last, he says that Troy Vincent will have to defense his penalties on Brady and state precedence or something similar that has previously occurred. Vincent will also be asked under oath if he was instructed or coerced by anyone person or group of persons to issue the penalty. Brady's legal team could then ask the court for all of the NFL executives, office and every owners' cell phones, office phones and computers to look for evidence that there was collusion in handing down Brady's penalty.

Then I had to stop listening because the truck is a 5 speed standard and I stalled it at a red light with about 20 cars behind me and I couldn't get restarted in my moment of panic. I had to shut off the radio and concentrate on getting my ass moving........Hey, it's been awhile since I last drove a standard shift....give me a break.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I'm sure this attorney grew up in MA. Well at least that's what all the haters will be saying.

Actually good report, especially the part about Vincent. Maybe this is why it's taking Goodell so long? He may be getting more pressure than any of us had thought? Now he may really be trying to figure out how he's going to save face.

Very interesting.

 

[TxHeat]

I was listening o the radio in my "new" 2000 Mazda B3000 s 4WD Pickup I bought Friday. There was an attorney from Georgetown on the radio expressing why he thinks Roger Goodell is in a pickle. The NFL based a four game suspension and basically a $1.88M fine on Tom Brady for not cooperating with the Ted Wells Investigation. This lawyer said he read The Report and said that he was shocked that an attorney of Ted Wells' stature would ever write anything like that.

To his understanding, Brady was interviewed by Wells twice. He said that's very cooperative. Not turning over a cell phone to any investigator is exercising your right to privacy because once you give to someone, they can read every text or email regardless of the other person with the text. Personal emails between husband and wife, attorney protected emails and others would be exposed to people who could possibly do irreparable harm to your personal and business as well as public life. Any attorney who practices law knows that unless you get a court order, cell phones are taboo. He also said that courts reject cell phone requests more than 60% of the time.

He said the biggest legal obstacle the NFL will encounter is that Wells used words like "probably" and "might" and does not support it those probabilities with any facts or even as much as a hint in the report. He said that when you make suppositions in a public document, you must substantiate those with something that places the person in a position before, during or after the fact. He said that the report does nothing of the sort.

Last, he says that Troy Vincent will have to defense his penalties on Brady and state precedence or something similar that has previously occurred. Vincent will also be asked under oath if he was instructed or coerced by anyone person or group of persons to issue the penalty. Brady's legal team could then ask the court for all of the NFL executives, office and every owners' cell phones, office phones and computers to look for evidence that there was collusion in handing down Brady's penalty.

Then I had to stop listening because the truck is a 5 speed standard and I stalled it at a red light with about 20 cars behind me and I couldn't get restarted in my moment of panic. I had to shut off the radio and concentrate on getting my ass moving........Hey, it's been awhile since I last drove a standard shift....give me a break.

he wrote the report to try to satisfy the person that requested it (Goofdell). But since Wells had no proof of anything he had to come up with 'maybe', 'probably', 'could be' and other such references.

 

[Southieinnc]

I'm sure this attorney grew up in MA. Well at least that's what all the haters will be saying.

Actually good report, especially the part about Vincent. Maybe this is why it's taking Goodell so long? He may be getting more pressure than any of us had thought? Now he may really be trying to figure out how he's going to save face.

Very interesting.

Not to mention the whole League front office "grew up or have strong connections in NY"

 

[TxHeat]

I'm sure this attorney grew up in MA. Well at least that's what all the haters will be saying.

Actually good report, especially the part about Vincent. Maybe this is why it's taking Goodell so long? He may be getting more pressure than any of us had thought? Now he may really be trying to figure out how he's going to save face.

Very interesting.

Goofdell can't save face either way on this now. If he totally vacates all the penalties against Brady, then has to against the Pats which means the league threw away $5,000,000. And won't the owners be thrilled with that. He has all the haters ready to reign down on him too. If he doesn't get rid of all the penalties against Brady this mess is headed to court and that's going to open up the biggest can of worms the league has ever seen. Nice to see Goofdell in such a vice grip. LOL!!!

 

[sharkymcwrath]

I will always be a Patriots fan and will always be a football fan because it's a great sport. That said, it's clear that the NFL does not want the Patriots to reign and I would consider both spygate and deflate gate overblown bs stories designed entirely to punish the Pats for simply working harder than everybody else. Let's face it, the Pats win by outsmarting their opponents not necessarily by having better players. I know a bunch of people will call me a homer but I am sickened by the way the NFL has treated the Patriots. In a way it's good though because I'm passed the point of giving a crap what other people think.

 

[CreepCreep2014]

Didn't they tell the officials to be on the lookout?

Depends on who you ask? LOL....The NFL planned this, and they all could not get their stories straight. Dean flat out lied he had no clue. Then in the report, he was sent an email by the Colts a week before.....Hummm OK, but were cool with that. Walt Coleman remembered the Tuck Rule, a rule most never heard of and were shocked when he called it, yet can't remember what gauge he used on the balls....I mean, come on....

 

[CreepCreep2014]

Patriots wont get that penalty back. Bob accepted it, now we have to live with it.

 

[TxHeat]

ahhh...hahahahahaha

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell won’t commit to a date by which he will decide on the appeal of Tom Brady's four-game Deflategate suspension. Goodell said today that the decision on Brady’s appeal will take as long as it takes.

Translation = Fucking Goofdell knows he is screwed, so he's just delaying the inevitable.

 

[CreepCreep2014]

That a boy Roger......LMAO!!! He still has no clue how he is going to lie his way out of this one. So, I am gonna sit here and wait and see if everyone leaves...

That's OK Rog baby....I'll be just sitting over here for when you're ready..take your time...this should be good.

 

[BigKen]

It appears that calmer, more educated people are starting to chime in on Deflategate now that Roger Goodell Has decided not to rule on Tom Brady's appeal.

Another University Law professor decided to get into the conversation yesterday and he was pretty interesting.

His take is that Tom Brady is not being punished for doing anything wrong or for tampering with fooyballs. He noted that with so much information, both true and false at the beginning of this scenario, people made their minds up within 24-72 hours and made statements that they can't back away from. They would be embarrassed by being wrong or they want their statement to be true and are praying that they are not proven wrong.

He said that if the case gets to court, the attorneys for the NFL will most certainly ask the court to make Tom Brady's phone available for review. Brady's attorneys will agree but the NFL must provide a list of names that they want to access for their review. The argument will be that other personal, family and business calls should remain protected. The court will agree and the NFL will have access to only specific texts and emails. This will be the only information not provided to Ted Wells during his investigation.

Then Brady's and the NFLPA attorneys will drop the atomic bomb. They will demand Roger Goodell's, Ted Wells, Troy Vincent's cell phones and they'll demand that the NFL turn over all office phone recordings of everyone involved in the AFCCG "sting" operation. All phone calls in the NFL office are recorded for protection of the league.

This more than any other thing is the reason according to this professor that the league and the owners would not want to go to court.Any owner who spoke to Goodell would possibly be putting himself at risk for interfering with the process.

The more that these outside legal people provide input, the more information both side have. Goodell is backtracking at full speed. Based on his latest statement about not providing his decision immediately, the more ammo he's providing for Brady. He's probably wishing that he let an independent arbitrator hear the appeal.

This professor said that Goodell cannot allow himself to be swayed by public opinion or pressure from any group regardless of what it means for him. He has to look at what the offense truly is. Does the penalty reflect what was done or not done? When he makes his decision, he has to state with clarity and exactness, why he's making the decision he's made. If he attempts to give a wishy-washy reason regardless of what he decides, there will be consequences.

 

[CreepCreep2014]

Everyone wants to talk about how Brady will have to turn over his cell phone, but everyone forgets the NFL will have to do the same thing!!! People really think Brady and his legal team are that stupid that they would take this to court if damaging info was on Brady's phone?? Please.....Brady may be cocky, but he is no idiot. Haters don't like this one bit, they need Brady to accept this punishment so they can say "see I told you he was guilty"....Nah, won't happen folks. SO now they turn there attention to Kraft, who admitted quilt by accepting the punishment? Funny, 2 months ago it was because he didn't want to sue his league....now its him admitting to it...LMAO! Love when these worms reach to fit their agenda.

 

[CreepCreep2014]

Settlement talks have occurred in Brady case | ProFootballTalk

Handful of owners? Hmmm; Jets, Bills, Dolphins, Ravens, Colts....am I missing anyone..

 

[TxHeat]

Settlement talks have occurred in Brady case | ProFootballTalk

Handful of owners? Hmmm; Jets, Bills, Dolphins, Ravens, Colts....am I missing anyone..

the jealousy factor is hard at work in the NFL. nice to know!!

Colts, Giants, Broncos, Ravens, Jests.

I'm not sure how influential the Dolphins and Bills really are.

 

[BigKen]

How about Steelers. Bills, Jaguars and Cowboys??

Games 1 through 4.??

 

[CreepCreep2014]

Was thinking about this today. Certain owners pushing Roger to keep the suspension. How can you say the league is not against the Patriots? If this is true, the waters just get murkier for the NFL.

 

[TxHeat]

Was thinking about this today. Certain owners pushing Roger to keep the suspension. How can you say the league is not against the Patriots? If this is true, the waters just get murkier for the NFL.

you just know BB is keeping a mental list of all these teams. We've seen what happens before when BB is pissed at another team. (October 28, 2007)

 

[CreepCreep2014]

SO now the league is trying to wear Brady down? Are you fucking kidding me??? Ya know what Tom, forget the appeal and head to court for defamation of character and all the other good shit you can think of. You have done enough for this team and it's fans that WE (the fans) will support you in clearing your name and taking down the NFL for the BS they are doing. This has gotten way out of hand. Don't give in Tom like your boss did!! If you are innocent, you have the support of the people who count, the fans!