Series Thread: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers NBA Finals Thread

[Shanemansj13]

Cavs are the favorites right now, you have best player

Nope, not with the unstoppable MVP Curry. GS opens up at -6. That is pretty high but not surprising lol

 

[Shanemansj13]

Curry even has odds over Lebron to win Finals MVP. It's a lock

 

[Across The Field]

So I type this with a bit of hesitation, but according to Lebron James' personal human toilet paper/Cavs Beatwriter Brian Windhorst, the Cavs are saying Anderson Varajao could go if needed during the Finals.

 

[Hambombs]

Curry even has odds over Lebron to win Finals MVP. It's a lock

I just saw on espn that we are a 70% favorite to win it all, seems kinda high to me. lol

 

[purguy12]

Just telling the facts. 14 points - 13 turnovers when the Warriors were giving them all the chances in the world with poor play, fouls, and Klay going out. He choked in that last game, no way around it.

U mention 1 bad game. LOL what about the whole playoffs, That series was over. LBJ has maybe 1-2 good games in a series. Just stop it. harden was the best scorer in the league this year. Its not a knock on LBJ. He lost a step but still is a Great player. Overall player LBJ might be better but harden is by far the better scorer then LBJ now.

 

[purguy12]

lol I think you have the opposite, that's Warrior fans about their team. We are just arguing that the Cavs do have a chance. No one is giving them a chance.

Why would it be ship or bust? They arent even favored, makes no sense. The Warriors have been the team all year, besides preseason hype.

Cavs have a good chance. Picking Cavs to win the series is +165 right now. I have them losing 4-2. Wouldn't shock me if it went 7.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I just saw on espn that we are a 70% favorite to win it all, seems kinda high to me. lol

A little high, but with questions about Kyrie and unbelievable home record not surprised

 

[Shanemansj13]

U mention 1 bad game. LOL what about the whole playoffs, That series was over. LBJ has maybe 1-2 good games in a series. Just stop it. harden was the best scorer in the league this year. Its not a knock on LBJ. He lost a step but still is a Great player. Overall player LBJ might be better but harden is by far the better scorer then LBJ now.

Scorer, yeah. Not the best player and it really isnt close. Sometimes it looks like he just gives up and he really never tries on defense.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Y'all bishes probably know this already, but I just learned last night that Lebron and Curry are both from my hometown, the cradle of basketball excellence, Akron, Ohio.

Big ups yourself, rubber city!

 

[SJ76]

Cavs in 6. Wouldn't be surprised if it's 5. Game 7 would surprise me.

Should be a really good series.

 

[Across The Field]

U mention 1 bad game. LOL what about the whole playoffs, That series was over. LBJ has maybe 1-2 good games in a series. Just stop it. harden was the best scorer in the league this year. Its not a knock on LBJ. He lost a step but still is a Great player. Overall player LBJ might be better but harden is by far the better scorer then LBJ now.

FWIW, James is averaging more points than Harden in the playoffs. He also averages more assists, which means he's better at turning other players into scorers as well.

 

[purguy12]

Scorer, yeah. Not the best player and it really isnt close. Sometimes it looks like he just gives up and he really never tries on defense.

No LBJ is the better All around player. I just give harden credit for what he did in these playoffs. Like I said I haven't seen a player do that since LBJ early years with Miami. Plus throw in he doesn't have a team comparable to GS or Cavs or Memphis or Clippers or Bulls.

 

[GNG]

I just saw on espn that we are a 70% favorite to win it all, seems kinda high to me. lol

You have to consider the source of that information.

 

[purguy12]

FWIW, James is averaging more points than Harden in the playoffs. He also averages more assists, which means he's better at turning other players into scorers as well.

LOL Cavs have better players then Houston. Also Harden has played way tougher Comp. Please don't even start with that. This is whats wrong with Cavs/ LBJ Homers. They cant give credit. They both Avg 27pts. Asst are about the same. No knock on LBJ here but Harden carried his team. LBJ as the star player did carry but his role players really backed him.

 

[SJ76]

Harden and LBJ comparison really doesn't make sense to me. Harden is a great offensive player, but he faced Dallas who plays no defense and then the Clipps who play pretty good D.

Bron faced the Celtics then had Jimmy Butler in his face and still averaged over 26/game. So to say Harden faced better comp is not true. Dallas is awful. They had no one to guard Harden.

Both guys had their turnovers. But only 1 is still playing and led his team this far.

Numbers don't mean shit. It's who's the better all-around player and leader.

What's Harden assist's per game? Bron average 8.8 vs Chicago I believe.

 

[purguy12]

Harden and LBJ comparison really doesn't make sense to me. Harden is a great offensive player, but he faced Dallas who plays no defense and then the Clipps who play pretty good D.

Bron faced the Celtics then had Jimmy Butler in his face and still averaged over 26/game. So to say Harden faced better comp is not true. Dallas is awful. They had no one to guard Harden.

Both guys had their turnovers. But only 1 is still playing and led his team this far.

Numbers don't mean shit. It's who's the better all-around player and leader.

What's Harden assist's per game? Bron average 8.8 vs Chicago I believe.

LOL this might be the funniest thing today. He mentions Dallas and Houston but not GS and says Boston and the Bulls. Come on man. that is just bad. West is a lot tougher then the East. Boston wouldn't even have made the playoffs in the west. Bulls would of been what a 6th seed. LOL. No one isn't saying harden is the better over all player. Im just stating Harden had a better year and helped his team go far. Harden did a great job this year. Reason why he was 2nd in MBP voting. Almost double the votes over LBJ. I was just giving Harden credit. He had a great year.
Contributions to Winning (win shares)
1. Harden, 16.4
2. Paul, 16.1
3. Curry, 15.7
4. Davis, 14.0
5. Westbrook, 10.7
6. James, 10.4

Impact (real plus-minus)
1. Curry, 8.87
2. Harden, 8.30
3. James, 7.66
4. Davis, 7.52
5. Paul, 7.43
6. Westbrook, 6.58

Efficiency (PER)
1. Davis, 30.8
2. Westbrook, 29.1
3. Curry, 28.0
4. Harden, 26.7
5. Paul, 26.0
6. James, 25.9

 

[Shanemansj13]

So I type this with a bit of hesitation, but according to Lebron James' personal human toilet paper/Cavs Beatwriter Brian Windhorst, the Cavs are saying Anderson Varajao could go if needed during the Finals.

I dont know if I could believe that. Would that would be awesome if he could!

 

[Shanemansj13]

Y'all bishes probably know this already, but I just learned last night that Lebron and Curry are both from my hometown, the cradle of basketball excellence, Akron, Ohio.

Big ups yourself, rubber city!

There is an entire thread devoted to that lol

 

[gordontrue]

Listen to former NBA players. It is quite obvious how this was dirty.

There is a correct way to dive and there is an incorrect way. He's the only player in NBA who dives for loose balls that way. Every other player in the league could dive for the ball without bending a player's knee/ankle but somehow this is a problem for Matthew

BS.

What happened was an odd sequence of events that led media, former players, and fans to embarrass themselves with logic-defying statements.

1) Delly commits an intentional dirty - though not very dangerous - leg hold on Taj Gibson.

2) Delly and Korver both dive on floor for ball... delly gets there first... Korver gets hurt.

3) Horford pins (unintentionally) Dellys arm on box out and pulls him down, tripping him over another Hawks player and into his own knees. (If this isn't how you remember it.. its because you only saw the angle TNT showed over and over... not the angle widely distributed the following day clearly exonerating Dellavedova)


No unbiased person could look at 2 or 3 and put any blame on Delly for anything. People are making huge leaps from the first incident to the other 2. And honestly... the live broadcast crew acted very irresponsibly in my opinion.

 

[Shanemansj13]

LOL Cavs have better players then Houston. Also Harden has played way tougher Comp. Please don't even start with that. This is whats wrong with Cavs/ LBJ Homers. They cant give credit. They both Avg 27pts. Asst are about the same. No knock on LBJ here but Harden carried his team. LBJ as the star player did carry but his role players really backed him.

Harden as been great no doubt, but is just missing something if you know what I mean. IMO If Lebron is on Houston, they are in the Finals. No doubt