Series Thread: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers NBA Finals Thread

[SJ76]

LOL this might be the funniest thing today. He mentions Dallas and Houston but not GS and says Boston and the Bulls. Come on man. that is just bad. West is a lot tougher then the East. Boston wouldn't even have made the playoffs in the west. Bulls would of been what a 6th seed. LOL. No one isn't saying harden is the better over all player. Im just stating Harden had a better year and helped his team go far. Harden did a great job this year. Reason why he was 2nd in MBP voting. Almost double the votes over LBJ. I was just giving Harden credit. He had a great year.
Contributions to Winning (win shares)
1. Harden, 16.4
2. Paul, 16.1
3. Curry, 15.7
4. Davis, 14.0
5. Westbrook, 10.7
6. James, 10.4

Impact (real plus-minus)
1. Curry, 8.87
2. Harden, 8.30
3. James, 7.66
4. Davis, 7.52
5. Paul, 7.43
6. Westbrook, 6.58

Efficiency (PER)
1. Davis, 30.8
2. Westbrook, 29.1
3. Curry, 28.0
4. Harden, 26.7
5. Paul, 26.0
6. James, 25.9

Yeah I get it. Your numbers are right, mine are wrong. Man oh man.

Dallas was awful man. I was at game 3 in Dallas vs Houston. They gave up 70 at halftime to Houston. Celtics were hot going into Cleveland but were no match. So the West was better.. Houston played 2 teams, not the entire west. the west always out scores the East. So your numbers are straight Bullshit.



Too much hate for Bron in here if u ask me.

 

[SJ76]

I love how u take the Bulls overall regular season record (mostly played the East) and that's how you come up with Harden playing better competition in the playoffs. Lawd!!! Not to mention You can't answer Harden's assist per game in the playoffs and that's where Bron trumps him because he's getting the entire team involved.

Wow some people will do anything to make a case for their bullshit. Funny

My lord Dallas was a train wreck if I've ever seen one. Parsons was out. Who guarded Harden? Do u even know?


Stat geeks

 

[Shanemansj13]

Offense isnt everything

 

[Across The Field]

LOL Cavs have better players then Houston. Also Harden has played way tougher Comp. Please don't even start with that. This is whats wrong with Cavs/ LBJ Homers. They cant give credit. They both Avg 27pts. Asst are about the same. No knock on LBJ here but Harden carried his team. LBJ as the star player did carry but his role players really backed him.

There's nothing wrong with us. Just because we use facts, it doesn't mean can't give credit. If their assists are about the same, so were their PPG in the regular season, so how is it that Harden is the "far better scorer"? Also, if the Cavs have better players yet LBJ averages more PPG in the playoffs, how is it that Harden is the "far better scorer"?

You sure do spend a lot of time on here trying (and failing) to put Cavs fans in their place.

 

[SJ76]

It is to stay geeks!! Plug in X and then add Y and it MUST = Z.

Defense wins championships. Always been like that. East has always been a defensive league. No doubt the west is better this year. But the West is run and gun and always has been.

We will see

 

[Shield-Thread Killa]

Yeah I get it. Your numbers are right, mine are wrong. Man oh man.

Dallas was awful man. I was at game 3 in Dallas vs Houston. They gave up 70 at halftime to Houston. Celtics were hot going into Cleveland but were no match. So the West was better.. Houston played 2 teams, not the entire west. the west always out scores the East. So your numbers are straight Bullshit.



Too much hate for Bron in here if u ask me.

This CELTICS HOMER lost a hundo on that series...

 

[SJ76]

Honestly why are we arguing who's better if they both are within 2ppg and 2 apg of each other?? Trying to compare individuals in a team game with team D is hard to do.

Both are great players. I think Cleveland plays better D than Houston and that's why they will give Golden St a better series.

Cavs in 6

 

[purguy12]

Harden as been great no doubt, but is just missing something if you know what I mean. IMO If Lebron is on Houston, they are in the Finals. No doubt

I don't know about that. I don't think Houston loses in 5 maybe it goes 6 or 7 but GS would still win. Houston doesn't have the shooters as Cavs have.

I do wish Harden played better D. He only plays D in the 4th Q. He actually plays good D when he wants to.

 

[Hambombs]

Cavs in 6. Wouldn't be surprised if it's 5. Game 7 would surprise me.

Should be a really good series.

Damn in 5? That means they would have to beat us 2 times at home

 

[purguy12]

Yeah I get it. Your numbers are right, mine are wrong. Man oh man.

Dallas was awful man. I was at game 3 in Dallas vs Houston. They gave up 70 at halftime to Houston. Celtics were hot going into Cleveland but were no match. So the West was better.. Houston played 2 teams, not the entire west. the west always out scores the East. So your numbers are straight Bullshit.



Too much hate for Bron in here if u ask me.

Please stop acting like a dumbass comparing Boston to Dallas and Houston and somewhat GS. LOL I don't mean to call u names. Im just saying u cant compare the 2. West is a lot better then the East and that is a fact and everyone in the NBA knows that. Plus LBJ has better role players and better help. the path to the championship is a lot harder in the West.

No hate on LBJ its more about giving respect to what Harden did this year. there is no knock here on LBj. that is what wrong here.

 

[Shield-Thread Killa]

There's nothing wrong with us. Just because we use facts, it doesn't mean can't give credit. If their assists are about the same, so were their PPG in the regular season, so how is it that Harden is the "far better scorer"? Also, if the Cavs have better players yet LBJ averages more PPG in the playoffs, how is it that Harden is the "far better scorer"?

You sure do spend a lot of time on here trying (and failing) to put Cavs fans in their place.

It will be a nice series....I have a six pack, lunch and a hundo on the CAVS so far...

It was a smart move sitting KYRIE for the FINALS he will need to be the X FACTOR...

We know the WARRIORS know how to play TEAMS with BIGS, but can they play a team that has similar tempo but who has the current BEST PLAYER EVAH...

I say no and the WARRIORS will be lucky if it goes 6

 

[SJ76]

Damn in 5? That means they would have to beat us 2 times at home

Maybe 5 is a bit harsh. I'm a Draymond fan. Him and Tristian are going to be a great match up. I think Cleveland loses game 1, then adjusts. That's what they do. But GS will be tough.
I give an edge to Cleveland. GS hasn't been this far in awhile. Pressure starts to mount.

Got to get there before u can win it all. That's usually how it works.

 

[WiggyRuss]

lol I think you have the opposite, that's Warrior fans about their team. We are just arguing that the Cavs do have a chance. No one is giving them a chance.

Why would it be ship or bust? They arent even favored, makes no sense. The Warriors have been the team all year, besides preseason hype.

seriously...talk about horrible reading comprehension- both of us acknowledge the Cavs are significant under dogs.

But hopefully Trojanfan picks Golden State to win....thus far he picked the Bulls and the Hawks against the CAvs--- why no make it the trifecta? Its soooooooooooooo funny to me....this guy says its "championship or bust" BUT HE PICKED AGAINST THE CAVS THE LAST 2 ROUNDS! LOL it just does not add up

 

[purguy12]

There's nothing wrong with us. Just because we use facts, it doesn't mean can't give credit. If their assists are about the same, so were their PPG in the regular season, so how is it that Harden is the "far better scorer"? Also, if the Cavs have better players yet LBJ averages more PPG in the playoffs, how is it that Harden is the "far better scorer"?

You sure do spend a lot of time on here trying (and failing) to put Cavs fans in their place.

U don't use facts that's what funny part. Facts are stats that I put up(I just posted 5 facts and stats). U guys jump in LBJ pants to defend him when no one is knocking him.
Its ok to give credit to another player.

 

[SJ76]

Please stop acting like a dumbass comparing Boston to Dallas and Houston and somewhat GS. LOL I don't mean to call u names. Im just saying u cant compare the 2. West is a lot better then the East and that is a fact and everyone in the NBA knows that. Plus LBJ has better role players and better help.

No hate on LBJ its more about giving respect to what Harden did this year. there is no knock here on LBj. that is what wrong here.

Yeah I compared Boston to Golden St. cmon dude.

Boston was hot coming in the playoffs. Dallas was awful. No team cohesion at all with Rondo in or out. No Parsons. No defense. Clipps and GS are legit, but it's hard to compare the East vs West bball and say the numbers are the same. and u can call me whatever u want. Still doesn't change the fact that you are reaching and this argument is stupid.

They both are solid players. One is still playing.

 

[purguy12]

There's nothing wrong with us. Just because we use facts, it doesn't mean can't give credit. If their assists are about the same, so were their PPG in the regular season, so how is it that Harden is the "far better scorer"? Also, if the Cavs have better players yet LBJ averages more PPG in the playoffs, how is it that Harden is the "far better scorer"?

You sure do spend a lot of time on here trying (and failing) to put Cavs fans in their place.

They avg the same and harden did with tougher Comp in the west. LOL Plus I was talking about Harden overall)Playoffs and regular season). Harden had a great year.

Its not we are saying LBJ sucks and had a bad year and Harden is way better. We are saying harden had a great year and had a better year then LBJ. Curry had a better year then both hence MVP(Still think harden should of won it but I was ok with either.)

 

[SJ76]

U don't use facts that's what funny part. Facts are stats that I put up(I just posted 5 facts and stats). U guys jump in LBJ pants to defend him when no one is knocking him.
Its ok to give credit to another player.

Why do feel the need to knock Bron? I have more respect for him since the Bulls series. They guy has practically average a triple double.

You want to knock Oscar Robertson too?

 

[purguy12]

Yeah I compared Boston to Golden St. cmon dude.

Boston was hot coming in the playoffs. Dallas was awful. No team cohesion at all with Rondo in or out. No Parsons. No defense. Clipps and GS are legit, but it's hard to compare the East vs West bball and say the numbers are the same. and u can call me whatever u want. Still doesn't change the fact that you are reaching and this argument is stupid.

They both are solid players. One is still playing.

LOL u are reaching u just admitted it a way. Look what u just posted. I stat facts and u state nothing.
yes 1 is still playing because they have a better all around team and one had an easy walk into the Finals. Cavs might of got knocked out in the 1st rd if they played in the West.

Hey they will both have something in common both would of lost to GS.

 

[purguy12]

Why do feel the need to knock Bron? I have more respect for him since the Bulls series. They guy has practically average a triple double.

You want to knock Oscar Robertson too?

LOL its not a knock. LOL Im giving credit to harden. Nothing about LBJ. Please look at the beginning before u jump in. I also stated now 3 times no knock on LBJ and said LBj is a great player. U need to read before you type makes you look bad.

 

[SJ76]

They avg the same and harden did with tougher Comp in the west. LOL Plus I was talking about Harden overall)Playoffs and regular season). Harden had a great year.

Its not we are saying LBJ sucks and had a bad year and Harden is way better. We are saying harden had a great year and had a better year then LBJ. Curry had a better year then both hence MVP(Still think harden should of won it but I was ok with either.)

Same numbers, different leagues man. So u still want to argue?

Different leagues that play different styles.

If I'm a dumbass, you helmet special