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frick.

Yeah, it's time. You can't worry about hurt feelings anymore. This guy is instilling zero faith every time he comes in to pitch.

The way I see it, it's the same issue as Jim Johnson last year: We have someone who deserves a roster spot, but not as the regular closer (since part of the job description is to defend a one-run lead in the 9th inning). Since the performance of relievers can vary widely from time to time, my personal preference is to NEVER have a regular closer even if a team has a dominant reliever-- ideally, the best reliever should be used in high-leverage situations regardless of which inning it is.
 

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The way I see it, it's the same issue as Jim Johnson last year: We have someone who can hold down a place in the bullpen, but not as a regular closer (since part of the job description is to defend a one-run lead in the 9th inning). Since the performance of relievers can vary widely from time to time, my personal preference is to NEVER have a regular closer even if a team has a dominant reliever-- ideally, the best reliever should be used in high-leverage situations regardless of which inning it is.

A lot of truth to this. This is just one of those seasons where maybe we don't have one "closer". Committee might be the way to go.
 

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Prediction: Everyone is going to be swinging for the fences and we won't score one run.
 

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thanks to tommy we may have a 4 game losing streak but hey we will be done with the tigers until we get healthy
 

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A lot of truth to this. This is just one of those seasons where maybe we don't have one "closer". Committee might be the way to go.

Except NO managers do this nowadays, Buck being one of the worst offenders.

All of this, and we should be talking about Jimenez's amazing start...
 

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Oh brother..may as well get the first actual blown loss out of the way now. Dammit.:L
 

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Except NO managers do this nowadays, Buck being one of the worst offenders.

All of this, and we should be talking about Jimenez's amazing start...

It's really a damn shame for him too. This is the Jiminez we all hoped for when we signed him and this is his reward tonight. Really a damn shame.
 

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It's really a damn shame for him too. This is the Jiminez we all hoped for when we signed him and this is his reward tonight. Really a damn shame.

I see a possible middle ground if Buck has to have a regular closer (who should probably be O'Day if that's the case):

Always have someone warming up in the bullpen once the starter hits 75-80 pitches and for the rest of the game. This would allow for the current pitcher to be replaced on short notice when he's having a bad day.
 

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One run lead against Detroit with no closer is basically a tie game. He needed to go after Hunter, he backed himself in a corner as usual.
 

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Thats why they need to wake up and scrape out runs more.
 

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Dont sweat it guys, it sucks to lose that way but Jimenez is getting it together and they'll figure out the closer thing. Maybe they can get to Verlander and Gausman can keep them in the game. Tough series against a tough team but at least the Mets are helping.
 

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Dont sweat it guys, it sucks to lose that way but Jimenez is getting it together and they'll figure out the closer thing. Maybe they can get to Verlander and Gausman can keep them in the game. Tough series against a tough team but at least the Mets are helping.

Yep.. that's a big help.

I actually have a smidge of hope for tomorrow's early game. These day games after a night game, you never know what to expect. Always seems topsy-turvy.

Jimenez comin' around is HUGE. Very very good sign.
 

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Who do you guys have going against JV? He'll walk atleast four, bank on it. JV that is. Without the overpowering fastball he nibbles, like Max used to.
 

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Who do you guys have going against JV? He'll walk atleast four, bank on it. JV that is. Without the overpowering fastball he nibbles, like Max used to.

Pitching-wise? Kevin Gausman... big time prospect the O's faithful have been looking and waiting for a couple of years now to progress to the bigs. Like salivating jackels around a carcass. JV won't walk 4 against this O's squad. It's been the running joke with us for a little while now. When you're hacking and hitting homers, everything's gravy. When you're not, your offense looks as anemic as the Padres. Huge win for your Tigers last night. Congrats.

Maybe next time you guys see us after this series we'll have a different closer.
 
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