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Game #14 NE Patriots vs LV Raiders Sunday December 18, 2022 4:05 PM CBS

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I know I’m in the minority in this opinion but Mac Jones is not a good QB. Bad throws, bad decisions, and terrible pocket awareness. And now we can add whiny bitch to his resume.
He's not playing well that's for sure. He has his moments but I think he can play better. How good I don't know though.
 

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I feel like this team has a lot more talent than leadership … a LOT more

Belichick is proving who ran the dynasty every game … and his squad sucks … and Zap shoulda been in there the second half

… there, I said it
 

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I've been a Mac Jones backer. I bought his damn jersey. He had time to throw today. The oline did a pretty good job keeping him clean. He played bad. And his whining and cursing are annoying now. We have a rb go for almost 200 yards. Defense gets a td and Jones goes 13-31.

Fuck it. Give Zappe a chance.
 

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I've been a Mac Jones backer. I bought his damn jersey. He had time to throw today. The oline did a pretty good job keeping him clean. He played bad. And his whining and cursing are annoying now. We have a rb go for almost 200 yards. Defense gets a td and Jones goes 13-31.

Fuck it. Give Zappe a chance.
Are there still some on this board that think Mac isn't a problem that we've been talking about for weeks?

I certainly don't put all the blame on him, but he's got to play better.

Zappe time.

Damn this team is giving me ulcers.
 

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How the HELL is that in bounds!

With that said How the HELL do you NOT stop the Raiders! Bend but don't break BULLSHIT!
Because to the ref it was not out of bounds. Tuck Rule Revenge
CUT Meyers! I don't care. CUT HIM! WTF was that?!?!
WOW really????
As much as that was on Meyers I 100% BLAME Belichick for the defense they played when the Raiders came back to tie..

I'm done. Go Bills!
This was a shitty game plan. This offense is so vanilla, its hot garbage. If Patricia stays as O Coord next year we may as well be prepared to be the cellar dweller.
 

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I've been a Mac Jones backer. I bought his damn jersey. He had time to throw today. The oline did a pretty good job keeping him clean. He played bad. And his whining and cursing are annoying now. We have a rb go for almost 200 yards. Defense gets a td and Jones goes 13-31.

Fuck it. Give Zappe a chance.
Jones had a bad game, but is not a bad QB. All QBs have bad games. He should upset with his game yesterday. Shit if we keep Patricia and I were him I would ask for a trade.
 

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We just got robbed. His foot was clearly out.
I agree his foot was most probably out but they can't revese that close a call with that angle. The question is: Why isn't there a better camera angle on the sideline? At a minimum they could have those pylon cams there.
 

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Honestly what the fuck is wrong with some of you whiney ass bitches? The very last play of the game was the most exciting offensive play of the year. If you were not on your feet screaming at the TV then there is something wrong with you.
 

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Crazy game yesterday. Should have been the primetime one instead of NFC East matchup.
Seth Meyers Lol GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
 

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It seems that final play was by design. I find it hard to believe the players would start the lateral passes thing on their own with the game tied. If they were losing, all for it, but that wasn’t the case. The odds were probably in favor of the Pats in OT.

Tough pill to swallow as fans.
 

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Whiny bitches or not, we all bought into the BB Genius mantra for 20 years.

Some if us can't move forward and still believe that everything BB does is wonderful.

The reality of this NFL football season is that BB has made multiple questionable decisions that have resulted in multiple problems. He thinks his decisions are fine. All for the good of the team, yet every single week the QB has to call time out because 1. Patricia can't decide what play to call or can't find the situation on his call sheet 2. Because Patricia is behind the eight ball he can't call the personnel changes fast enough for Mac to get the play call to everyone 3. Mac repeatedly takes too long to get play started and it results in multiple 'False Start' calls in every game 4. Mac has a serious problem checking down and finding a WR 5. Mac has a serious problem "leading" a WR with a pass. He throws where the WR is or makes him reach back. 6. Mac a problem determining speed and distance of his receivers, even after a year and 14 games. How many of his passes are over the outreached hands of the receiver?

The head coach has an ego problem and cannot admit that his decision not to hire a real, honest to Josh, offensive coordinator isn't a problem.

I'm sorry, but I think BB is starting to enter the first stage of dementia.
 

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Whiny bitches or not, we all bought into the BB Genius mantra for 20 years.

Some if us can't move forward and still believe that everything BB does is wonderful.

The reality of this NFL football season is that BB has made multiple questionable decisions that have resulted in multiple problems. He thinks his decisions are fine. All for the good of the team, yet every single week the QB has to call time out because 1. Patricia can't decide what play to call or can't find the situation on his call sheet 2. Because Patricia is behind the eight ball he can't call the personnel changes fast enough for Mac to get the play call to everyone 3. Mac repeatedly takes too long to get play started and it results in multiple 'False Start' calls in every game 4. Mac has a serious problem checking down and finding a WR 5. Mac has a serious problem "leading" a WR with a pass. He throws where the WR is or makes him reach back. 6. Mac a problem determining speed and distance of his receivers, even after a year and 14 games. How many of his passes are over the outreached hands of the receiver?

The head coach has an ego problem and cannot admit that his decision not to hire a real, honest to Josh, offensive coordinator isn't a problem.

I'm sorry, but I think BB is starting to enter the first stage of dementia.
Besides the bad play calls and Mac’s inability to connect consistently with receivers, the mistakes we are seeing are unheard of.

That time out called by sideline 1 second before the snap, which negated a TD, is baffling and highlights that Patricia has no idea what he is doing. And allowing Patricia to continue to manage the Offense is Belichik’s fault. No way around that.
 

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WOW really????
Yes. We've seen players get cut for a lot less. But that was just me very pissed off last night. But we all know that Meyers will somehow be on "IR" with a non contact injury for the next few games.
This was a shitty game plan. This offense is so vanilla, its hot garbage. If Patricia stays as O Coord next year we may as well be prepared to be the cellar dweller.
Every game has been a shitty game plan. Everyone. I really think it's time for Kraft to step in and either A: Remove Bill as Coach.. and or remove him from GM B: Cut every single coach
 

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It seems that final play was by design. I find it hard to believe the players would start the lateral passes thing on their own with the game tied. If they were losing, all for it, but that wasn’t the case. The odds were probably in favor of the Pats in OT.

Tough pill to swallow as fans.

u mean right after the raiders marched down the field and scored
everything was going the raiders way hell even the refs wanted them to win:suds:
 

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Whiny bitches or not, we all bought into the BB Genius mantra for 20 years.

Some if us can't move forward and still believe that everything BB does is wonderful.

The reality of this NFL football season is that BB has made multiple questionable decisions that have resulted in multiple problems. He thinks his decisions are fine. All for the good of the team, yet every single week the QB has to call time out because 1. Patricia can't decide what play to call or can't find the situation on his call sheet 2. Because Patricia is behind the eight ball he can't call the personnel changes fast enough for Mac to get the play call to everyone 3. Mac repeatedly takes too long to get play started and it results in multiple 'False Start' calls in every game 4. Mac has a serious problem checking down and finding a WR 5. Mac has a serious problem "leading" a WR with a pass. He throws where the WR is or makes him reach back. 6. Mac a problem determining speed and distance of his receivers, even after a year and 14 games. How many of his passes are over the outreached hands of the receiver?

The head coach has an ego problem and cannot admit that his decision not to hire a real, honest to Josh, offensive coordinator isn't a problem.

I'm sorry, but I think BB is starting to enter the first stage of dementia.
I still would like BB as Head Coach, just not sure I want him as the GM. And you are correct for years we all considered BB a genius and I think we were not the only ones, and I feel for a long time all that was true. I have to wonder if he is keeping up with the game as it played today. And I really want to know if any of the Kraft's have the backbone to strip BB of the GM duties, and let the chips fall where they will.

Last year under Josh we were all impressed with Mac no one will convince me his skill levels have dropped, I think it's fair to ask "What Changed" and if we answer that question honestly I think we all come to the same conclusion.
 

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Besides the bad play calls and Mac’s inability to connect consistently with receivers, the mistakes we are seeing are unheard of.

That time out called by sideline 1 second before the snap, which negated a TD, is baffling and highlights that Patricia has no idea what he is doing. And allowing Patricia to continue to manage the Offense is Belichik’s fault. No way around that.
I mentioned this several times last year Mac had 2.5 to 3 seconds to release and was very good. This year he is under pressure in 2 to 2.5 seconds for a pocket QB that won't cut it. For a guy like Allen or Mahommes it's okay they are so mobile. Football games are won and lost in the trenches and that is where we are losing games
 

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back to firing BB i see maybe we can steal mcnuggets from the raiders as head coach:suds:
 
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