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FSU investigating the Winston r*pe charge

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maybe not his opinion by itself but if his opinion is the same opinion that the majority has which I believe it is, then it does carry some importance.

So public opinion actually matters? Could have fooled me. If that was true then there are many people who should be pariahs in the world that are not.

Also unless you are in a grand jury, jury box, an investigator, DA, or on the code of conduct board your opinion means absolutely nothing in this matter. Never has and never will. Just like mine. That is a simple known fact of life.
 

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So public opinion actually matters? Could have fooled me. If that was true then there are many people who should be pariahs in the world that are not.

Also unless you are in a grand jury, jury box, an investigator, DA, or on the code of conduct board your opinion means absolutely nothing in this matter. Never has and never will. Just like mine. That is a simple known fact of life.


I am not saying it matters in the court of law. I am saying it matters in every day life.

If you are saying that public opinion doesn't affect people then you are not very bright.
 

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I heard on sports talk radio this morning that it was going to be brought back up under Title 9 of the NCAA. But by the time Winston gets though with the season, the investigation will be over. Of course there's the court case. But who knows.
 

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I am not saying it matters in the court of law. I am saying it matters in every day life.

If you are saying that public opinion doesn't affect people then you are not very bright.

Well that depends on how mentally tough people are. If I was worrying about what you or others thought of me that would make me pretty much a pussy. People will think what they want to think and there is nothing anyone can do to change that. I believe that Winston even if bothered a little bit understands that. In fact he stated that in an interview with Mark Packer on Sirius XM this summer.

I never said it may not affect some people. I said it did not matter in this case. There is a difference.
 

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Well that depends on how mentally tough people are. If I was worrying about what you or others thought of me that would make me pretty much a pussy. People will think what they want to think and there is nothing anyone can do to change that. I believe that Winston even if bothered a little bit understands that. In fact he stated that in an interview with Mark Packer on Sirius XM this summer.

I never said it may not affect some people. I said it did not matter in this case. There is a difference.


I am not talking about "me and others". I am talking about millions and millions of people. The majority of the country.

To say that is not important is naive as it gets.
 

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It does seem mighty convenient that this keeps popping up ONLY during football season...
 

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I am not talking about "me and others". I am talking about millions and millions of people. The majority of the country.

To say that is not important is naive as it gets.

So those other millions of peoples are not others? Hmm...Ok. Now any numbers to back up the bold? Other than your belief that they agree with you? And my point still stands. It matters NOT and never will because those people like you are not people of authority and have no bearing on his career.
 

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So those other millions of peoples are not others? Hmm...Ok. Now any numbers to back up the bold? Other than your belief that they agree with you? And my point still stands. It matters NOT and never will because those people like you are not people of authority and have no bearing on his career.



You don't know that.

This situation will affect his life based on what people believe whether you want it to or not.

Just accept it and move and quit looking so desperate.
 

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So those other millions of peoples are not others? Hmm...Ok. Now any numbers to back up the bold? Other than your belief that they agree with you? And my point still stands. It matters NOT and never will because those people like you are not people of authority and have no bearing on his career.


You're a good poster dude, but no offense, you're reminding me of AU fans during the whole Cam fiasco. Winston raped that chick as much as Cam's dad took that money. Nothing is going to happen to Winston, so it's no big deal.....
 

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You're a good poster dude, but no offense, you're reminding me of AU fans during the whole Cam fiasco. Winston raped that chick as much as Cam's dad took that money. Nothing is going to happen to Winston, so it's no big deal.....

THIS is my problem with people. The woman has yet to tell her story in public and Winston has not told his so how on earth can you or anyone else come to that conclusion with 100% certainty?
 

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THIS is my problem with people. The woman has yet to tell her story in public and Winston has not told his so how on earth can you or anyone else come to that conclusion with 100% certainty?
Because FSU homers and Winston apologists have been posting the story in the comments of every story on the case that is published on the internet. Even if you accept all of the circumstances that would mean that Winston committed no crimes, you still can't escape the conclusion that Jameis Winston is a gigantic steaming pile of shit as a human being. (And that's where you end up when you are giving him the benefit of the doubt.)
 

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You don't know that.

This situation will affect his life based on what people believe whether you want it to or not.

Just accept it and move and quit looking so desperate.

No you are looking desperate in thinking your opinion of him will have any bearing on a GM of a football or baseball team. They will interview him, look at his combine, and testing. They will go based off that information alone. Not the random fan or fans. That is the end of the story.
 

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Because FSU homers and Winston apologists have been posting the story in the comments of every story on the case that is published on the internet. Even if you accept all of the circumstances that would mean that Winston committed no crimes, you still can't escape the conclusion that Jameis Winston is a gigantic steaming pile of shit as a human being. (And that's where you end up when you are giving him the benefit of the doubt.)

I read similar thoughts on the Duke Lacrosse players a few years back by opinionated people such as yourself and they were reading comments from the internet and stories that were printed in the media and internet and guess what? Turns out the allegations had no basis for fact.

Unless you actually witnessed yourself any events surrounding the alleged r*pe, then you cannot make the claims about that person that you are with any accuracy. his actions after the Title game with the crab legs were the act of a stupid kid, but certainly nothing to make a claim he is a steaming pile of shit as a human being. Just a dumb kid who made a mistake.
 

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Because FSU homers and Winston apologists have been posting the story in the comments of every story on the case that is published on the internet. Even if you accept all of the circumstances that would mean that Winston committed no crimes, you still can't escape the conclusion that Jameis Winston is a gigantic steaming pile of shit as a human being. (And that's where you end up when you are giving him the benefit of the doubt.)

Umm....NO. I have said from the get go that if he did it(notice the part about being proven guilty) they should hang his nuts on the wall. I unlike you and many others do not pass judgement on ANY person I do not know(minus the Authority based upon the manner in which he posts). I do not care if it is a player from Florida or Miami. I gave the benefit of the doubt to Rainey at UF for the Die bitch shit until he ADMITTED IT! You have not been here very long so you have no idea what I have said or not said.
 

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No you are looking desperate in thinking your opinion of him will have any bearing on a GM of a football or baseball team. They will interview him, look at his combine, and testing. They will go based off that information alone. Not the random fan or fans. That is the end of the story.

This^^^^

How long did Ray Lewis play in the NFL? Seems that the NFL looks at the facts first, then looks at the needs of the team and if the player can help. JFF got drafted and he is as thought of by many to be a big pile of shit also, but one that can possibly play the game.
 

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I read similar thoughts on the Duke Lacrosse players a few years back by opinionated people such as yourself and they were reading comments from the internet and stories that were printed in the media and internet and guess what? Turns out the allegations had no basis for fact.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the comments you were reading about the Duke lacrosse players were written with the intent of making the players look guilty. I'm talking about comments made by Winston supporters that were intended to exonerate him. Huge difference here.

When the people who support you tell a story that makes you look like a complete douche bag - and that is your defense - then you are a complete douche bag.
 

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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the comments you were reading about the Duke lacrosse players were written with the intent of making the players look guilty. I'm talking about comments made by Winston supporters that were intended to exonerate him. Huge difference here.

When the people who support you tell a story that makes you look like a complete douche bag - and that is your defense - then you are a complete douche bag.

And he may be a douche bag, but that doesnt make him a steaming pile of shit as a human being, it makes him an arrogant prick that knows his worth and is angling for a life lesson.
 

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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the comments you were reading about the Duke lacrosse players were written with the intent of making the players look guilty. I'm talking about comments made by Winston supporters that were intended to exonerate him. Huge difference here.

When the people who support you tell a story that makes you look like a complete douche bag - and that is your defense - then you are a complete douche bag.

Any links showing this? Just curious to read them.

His point is that people jumped to a conclusion on them and look what happened? He is saying allow ALL FACTS to come out and that includes his and her story from their mouths.
 
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