Fools Gold

[Battlelyon]

Foles or Bradford is not the answer for the Rams, arguing who is better is like arguing who the ugliest woman you dating. You just don't want to talk about it.

 

[27mtrcougar]

I hope he doesn't see the field, have a real bad feeling about this signing? Hate to see something bad happen to him, it will be on the Rams for signing him, I think a lot of teams avoided him because they didn't want that hanging over their team!
The guy is one hit away from wearing a bib the rest of his life, and he's more or less a cross the middle type WR, nothing good will come from this?

I disagree with you Smed. Imagine that you could really say that about any of the NFL players. They are all one hit away from ending their career. I think Walker will do great he's going to be Foles security blanket. That's exactly why they signed him because the Rams have no threat over the middle.

 

[27mtrcougar]

Foles or Bradford is not the answer for the Rams, arguing who is better is like arguing who the ugliest woman you dating. You just don't want to talk about it.

The fact that Bradford hadn't played in an actual game in almost 2 years and rehabed to blown out knees and already looks better than Foles it's quite amazing to me. That tells you the difference in their skill level... one is a first round pick one is a late third round pick and it shows. The reason the Rams traded For Foles is because they couldnt take a chance on Bradford getting hurt again and playing with the second string quarterback again all season. it would be coach suicide. They felt Foles had a better chance of staying healthy.

 

[shopson67]

The fact that Bradford hadn't played in an actual game in almost 2 years and rehabed to blown out knees and already looks better than Foles it's quite amazing to me. That tells you the difference in their skill level... one is a first round pick one is a late third round pick and it shows. The reason the Rams traded For Foles is because they couldnt take a chance on Bradford getting hurt again and playing with the second string quarterback again all season. it would be coach suicide. They felt Foles had a better chance of staying healthy.

If you think a 50/50 split on TDs on INTs is better, then enjoy your boy. Health was definitely a big part of it, as was that dead salary for an often injured #1 overall pick. Throw in a bonus 2nd round pick and trading up a round in last year's draft, and it was a very easy decision.

 

[Smed55]

I disagree with you Smed. Imagine that you could really say that about any of the NFL players. They are all one hit away from ending their career. I think Walker will do great he's going to be Foles security blanket. That's exactly why they signed him because the Rams have no threat over the middle.

You are blind yet again if you think Welker isn't more suseptable to yet another concussion than anyone else! Yes everyone is one hit away from their career being over, but a guy with a history of it is just asking for trouble, coupled with the fact that he isn't very big and most of his routes are over the middle!
Then add in the fact that we struggle to get the ball to Austin, who is quicker and younger?

 

[Smed55]

The fact that Bradford hadn't played in an actual game in almost 2 years and rehabed to blown out knees and already looks better than Foles it's quite amazing to me. That tells you the difference in their skill level... one is a first round pick one is a late third round pick and it shows. The reason the Rams traded For Foles is because they couldnt take a chance on Bradford getting hurt again and playing with the second string quarterback again all season. it would be coach suicide. They felt Foles had a better chance of staying healthy.

They say your first love will never die! Really Sammie already looks better than Foles, I really don't know what you are looking at when you make these comments? You seem to be the only one that ever sees it that way, hmmm imagine that! Again better oline, better weapons, and he is still average and his stats are still a little worse than Foles! The proof is right there in the stats!

But as Tammy Wynette said "Stand By Your Man"

 

[27mtrcougar]

If you think a 50/50 split on TDs on INTs is better, then enjoy your boy. Health was definitely a big part of it, as was that dead salary for an often injured #1 overall pick. Throw in a bonus 2nd round pick and trading up a round in last year's draft, and it was a very easy decision.

I agree with you.... If Foles works out. Dumping the salary or getting a second round pick doesn't mean squat if you don't have a quarterback. His interception ratio will get better at least 3 wernt his fault, but Sam has almost a 100 more attempts then Foles and 500 more passing yds. Not bad for being on the shelf for 2 years. I'm just frustrated because we finally have a great defense and a stud running back we just need average consistent play from a quarterback. I just don't see us losing that Pittsburgh or Minnesota game if Sam was back there.

 

[Smed55]

I agree with you.... If Foles works out. Dumping the salary or getting a second round pick doesn't mean squat if you don't have a quarterback. His interception ratio will get better at least 3 wernt his fault, but Sam has almost a 100 more attempts then Foles and 500 more passing yds. Not bad for being on the shelf for 2 years. I'm just frustrated because we finally have a great defense and a stud running back we just need average consistent play from a quarterback. I just don't see us losing that Pittsburgh or Minnesota game if Sam was back there.

We probably lose the Seattle game to if Sammie was in there! Sammie has thrown 10 interceptions this year, he would have even more if he was a Ram because his oline and weapons aren't as good as what he currently has!

While Foles hasn't playedwell his stats are still better than Sammes and you think Sammie is playing well! Ya 500 yards on 100 more attempts, that's not good!

 

[27mtrcougar]

We probably lose the Seattle game to if Sammie was in there! Sammie has thrown 10 interceptions this year, he would have even more if he was a Ram because his oline and weapons aren't as good as what he currently has!

While Foles hasn't playedwell his stats are still better than Sammes and you think Sammie is playing well! Ya 500 yards on 100 more attempts, that's not good!

Do you realize Foles has 1 game where he has passed for more then 200 yds? That's not good man. You can't say he'd have more interceptions with the Rams. he certainly it's more familiar with the Rams receivers. And he has never had a good offense of line so he's used to that.

 

[Smed55]

Do you realize Foles has 1 game where he has passed for more then 200 yds? That's not good man. You can't say he'd have more interceptions with the Rams. he certainly it's more familiar with the Rams receivers. And he has never had a good offense of line so he's used to that.

I can say it and I did say it

He's never played behind a oline this young, let alone they are more run blockers than they are pass blockers, at this point anyway!


Ya I know he has 1 game over 200 yards, yet his yards per completion is still better than Sammies, so I guess for Sammie you can say "that's not very good"

And by the way, If Sammie throws 1 more redzone interception this year, he will set an NFL record, and he has half the season to do it, again, that is NOT GOOD

 

[27mtrcougar]

I can say it and I did say it

He's never played behind a oline this young, let alone they are more run blockers than they are pass blockers, at this point anyway!


Ya I know he has 1 game over 200 yards, yet his yards per completion is still better than Sammies, so I guess for Sammie you can say "that's not very good"

And by the way, If Sammie throws 1 more redzone interception this year, he will set an NFL record, and he has half the season to do it, again, that is NOT GOOD

Yes... but getting to the red zone is also good. Foles has struggled to get into field goal range. I mean how many 60 Yarders can Greg kick Smed those are Austin Davis like numbers

 

[Smed55]

Yes... but getting to the red zone is also good. Foles has struggled to get into field goal range. I mean how many 60 Yarders can Greg kick Smed those are Austin Davis like numbers

Getting to the redzone and throwing an interception is good? And Austin Davis type numbers are also better than Sammies!

 

[RamsFan88]

They're both mediocre. Case settled. We'd probably have the same record with Bradford, but we saved more $ with Foles and can get out of the contract without a huge penalty.

 

[ANGELAKERAMS]

I agree with RamsFan

chances are the Rams would have the same record with both QB's ( and that's assuming Bradford wouldn't have got injured playing behind our young OL ).

the trade still makes sense today even in light of Foles mediocre play. the Rams traded up a round this past draft that netted them Donnal, they get the Eagles 2nd rounder this coming draft and they dumped Bradford's huge salary.

judging by both QB's play, the Rams were unlikely to keep either QB beyond this season ( but especially Bradford due to his huge salary- Foles salary is minimal and may be kept just for that reason ).

if the Rams aren't convinced Mannion can develop, then they can use the extra 2nd rounder to move up in the 1st to draft a QB if they so desire. the extra pick gives them flexibility they wouldn't have had by keeping Bradford.

and although I still question some of their drafting, it's nice to have the extra picks to maneuver around the draft board which is one thing I love about Snead compared to past regimes that just stood pat.

I still have doubts about the Robinson pick. I wish they would've traded with Buffalo that year ( I'm sure they called ), and taken Donald and Martin instead. that would've given them an extra 1st this past draft ( #19 ). and I don't like that they balked at drafting Collins. use a 7th rounder ( they had 2 anyways ) and take the chance versus hoping he signs with you as a FA ( which he didn't ). oops!

 

[Smed55]

While I agree with most on here that Foles and Sammie are average at best right now, I think Sammie would be putting up even lesser numbers if he was still with Rams! Sammie has proven that he doesn't play well under pressure, and behind this oline, while young and improving, he would probaly have already been sacked 20 times, thrown more interceptions, and in fact he probably would already be hurt by now!

 

[zeke2829]

Why in the hell are we even discussing Bradford? .....Who in the heck started this??.....

 

[Smed55]

Why in the hell are we even discussing Bradford? .....Who in the heck started this??.....:

If you noticed, Coug hadn't been on this site forever, but he's back and that's All he can talk about, the greatness that is Sam Bradford, the player, the legend!

 

[Rams Upser]

Smh on some of these comments. Bradford was a puss and always will be. He costed way too much for what if. Let's wait til the end of next season to pass judgment. I'll bet anyone on here Bradford won't do shit in 2 years. Great arm mind like a girl. Foles hasn't been perfect but for some of the minimal passes he has thrown some of the most crucial have been dropped. New team, new scheme, new teammates. Give the guy a break damn. Every player on this team we could scrutinize on missing plays. Kendricks catches that ball we beat Pit. Without all the injuries on D vs Min. We shut them down. No its not pretty and I'm just as fustrated as you but they are working hard af to correct these problems it's not like they don't see everything we do and are not trying to correct them. For everything we see I guarantee theres reasons for everything. As a coach of a national and now high school level theres tons of variables. We could be 5-3 6-2 7-1 very easily. Everyone has to be in sync and guess what guys make mistakes. Sometimes over an over until things get fixed. We have a tuff road basically we gotta go 6-2 but does anyone really think that's impossible if we get our full D back in the next couple weeks minus Ogletree. We have nowhere to go but up on O. I was livid we lost to Min. Mad af at foles myself but he didn't loose that game if anything coaching and injuries hurt us.

 

[Retroram52]

Some good points Upser. I'll stick by my original assessment of Foles becoming a very good QB. I like his throwing mechanics and he does throw a very nice spiral when he has time. Granted, he has thrown some trash balls recently but I think he'll be fine if Cignetti and Fisher don't hang this guy out to dry. We have frikin two QB coaches essentially in Weinke and Garcia for development and support. I think Foles will be fine going forward.

 

[Smed55]

I agree, I think Foles will be fine, we've relied heavily on the running game! When Foles has thrown the ball deep, it's better than Sammie EVER did. Last week when Britt was open on the first play, I have no idea why he didn't see him, that hurt big time, but realistically I think he has only had one really bad game, that would obviously be GB.

Stats are stats, but his numbers would look alot better if Britt isn't tacked at the 1 two weeks ago, Cook was also caught from behind on a long pass(imagine that?) I believe Austin also came up short on one.

A certain poster on here always plays the WR dropped balls card for Sammie, but won't do it for Foles. The Eagles are number one in dropped passes at 6.5, the Rams are second at 6.4. But bottom line Eagles have more weapons period and Foles numbers are better even if slimly!, better is better!