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Florida AD Says They Would Schedule UCF "In The Right Situation"

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What's wrong with the deal Florida is offering if you're in UCF shoes?
 

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I'll make it easy for you:

2016
fsu #8

2015
fsu #14

2014
fsu #5

2013
fsu #1

2012
fsu #10

2011
fsu #23

2010
fsu #17

2008
fsu #21

2005
fsu #23

2004
fsu #15

2003
miami #5
fsu #11

2002
miami #2
fsu #21

2001
fsu #15

2000
fsu #5

1999
fsu #1

1998
fsu #3

1997
fsu #3
Southern Mississippi #19

1996
fsu #3

1995
fsu #4

1994
fsu #4

1993
fsu #1

1992
fsu #2

1991
fsu #4
Syracuse # 11

1990
fsu #4

1989
fsu #3

1988 *top 20
fsu #3

1987 *top 20
miami #1
fsu #2

1986 *top 20
miami #2

1985 *top 20
miami #9
fsu #15

1984 *top 20
fsu #17
miami #18

1983
miami #1
East Carolina #20

1982
fsu #13
Southern Cal #15

1981
miami #8

1980
fsu #5
miami #18

1979
fsu #6
Houston #5


Over the last 40 years OOC (regular season) I count
26 final top 10 opponents (5 of those were national champs)
18 more final ranked opponents.

I'm willing to entertain claims that UF's OOC scheduling is weak. Just show me your team has played more than UF over this time. Show us your work.

Under Dabo Swinney here's our OOC opponent's final poll ranking:

2017 - #12 Auburn

2016 - #22 Auburn

2015 - #12 Notre Dame

2014 - #9 UGA

2013 - #4 South Carolina

2012 - #7 South Carolina

2011 - #8 South Carolina

2010 - #1 Auburn
#22 South Carolina

2009 - #6 TCU

9 seasons, 10 ranked, average final poll ranking 10.3


Florida in the same time span: 9 seasons, 7 ranked OOC opponents, average final poll ranking 11.14


With Texas A&M currently ranked 20th we will likely complete our 10th straight season under Dabo Swinney with a ranked OOC opponent. With Texas A&M again next year and upcoming OOC series against Notre Dame (four games in five years starting 2020), Georgia in the Chick-fil-a Classic, LSU home and home, two more with Notre Dame, a home and home with UGA then a single game vs Notre Dame in 2031 we are pretty much assured of adding to those totals.

Meanwhile Florida will finish for the second consecutive season without a ranked OOC opponent, the third time overall in the same 10 year period. Other than Miami next season in Orlando you are dependent of Taggart turning things around at FSU because there's no other P5 OOC matchup scheduled for Florida thru 2037
 

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Gators AD would welcome 2-for-1 series vs. UCF


In this article, the AD states that "in the right situation" he would schedule games against UCF. He never elaborates what the right situation is, but also states that "We haven't had a spot where we thought this made sense at this point".

He also states, "We do home-and-homes with like FSUs and Power 5 leagues," Stricklin said. "We haven't done any home-and-homes with non-Power 5 teams. I don't think we would start that. But I'd love to schedule [UCF] in a game."

Other leagues (aka, Miami). Or is he counting SEC games home-and-home?
 

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Not in the 70's or 80's either.

Since UF joined the SEC in 1933 they have only played
33 reg season road games against OOC schools from outside
the state of Florida.

Way to just eliminate the two most common OOC opponents. Because "out of state" is oh so relevant to college football. State lines feature in all the strength of schedule formulas and everything. :bullshit:
 

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Under Dabo Swinney here's our OOC opponent's final poll ranking:

2017 - #12 Auburn

2016 - #22 Auburn

2015 - #12 Notre Dame

2014 - #9 UGA

2013 - #4 South Carolina

2012 - #7 South Carolina

2011 - #8 South Carolina

2010 - #1 Auburn
#22 South Carolina

2009 - #6 TCU

9 seasons, 10 ranked, average final poll ranking 10.3


Florida in the same time span: 9 seasons, 7 ranked OOC opponents, average final poll ranking 11.14


With Texas A&M currently ranked 20th we will likely complete our 10th straight season under Dabo Swinney with a ranked OOC opponent. With Texas A&M again next year and upcoming OOC series against Notre Dame (four games in five years starting 2020), Georgia in the Chick-fil-a Classic, LSU home and home, two more with Notre Dame, a home and home with UGA then a single game vs Notre Dame in 2031 we are pretty much assured of adding to those totals.

Meanwhile Florida will finish for the second consecutive season without a ranked OOC opponent, the third time overall in the same 10 year period. Other than Miami next season in Orlando you are dependent of Taggart turning things around at FSU because there's no other P5 OOC matchup scheduled for Florida thru 2037

9 years. Didn't want to go back further huh? We know why.

UF hasn't scheduled beyond a few years out. So yes, miami and fsu are the only major OOC opponents UF has scheduled because there simply isn't a schedule yet for more than 3 or so seasons. There is no schedule thru 2037 or even close. It would take many many years of UF having no ranked OOC opponent to equal Clemson over the last 40 years considering how far ahead UF is now.
 

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9 years. Didn't want to go back further huh? We know why.

UF hasn't scheduled beyond a few years out. So yes, miami and fsu are the only major OOC opponents UF has scheduled because there simply isn't a schedule yet for more than 3 or so seasons. There is no schedule thru 2037 or even close. It would take many many years of UF having no ranked OOC opponent to equal Clemson over the last 40 years considering how far ahead UF is now.

Primarily because it doesn't fucking matter what happened under Zook, Spurrier, Galen Hall or Charlie Pell. I would have limited it to the current coaching staffs but y'all change coaches so much it wouldn't allow for a decent representation so I stuck with our current head coach.

Congrats. You used to play Miami home and home every year along with playing FSU. That ended 31 years ago. Since then you've played them six times, with two of those meetings being in bowls.



But hey.....if you are good with Florida's pussy OOC scheduling methods that's alright with me. I like our aggressive scheduling practices and obviously it works for us considering we'll be making our 4th straight playoff appearance in a couple weeks. How many appearances do y'all have in the playoffs again?
 

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Primarily because it doesn't fucking matter what happened under Zook, Spurrier, Galen Hall or Charlie Pell. I would have limited it to the current coaching staffs but y'all change coaches so much it wouldn't allow for a decent representation so I stuck with our current head coach.

Congrats. You used to play Miami home and home every year along with playing FSU. That ended 31 years ago. Since then you've played them six times, with two of those meetings being in bowls.



But hey.....if you are good with Florida's pussy OOC scheduling methods that's alright with me. I like our aggressive scheduling practices and obviously it works for us considering we'll be making our 4th straight playoff appearance in a couple weeks. How many appearances do y'all have in the playoffs again?

Yes it does fucking matter. The point is that UF has been playing tougher OOC schedules than all but a handful of other teams in America in addition to playing an SEC schedule. One of those teams UF has been consistently playing a better OOC schedule than is yours.

So its funny you claim UF's OOC scheduling methods are "pussy" when your own program has obviously been much bigger pussies.

Now for the unrelated shit...congrats on making the playoffs. How many national titles do you have vs how many do we have? How many heisman winners do you have vs how many do we have? What's your head to head record against us?
 

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What's wrong with the deal Florida is offering if you're in UCF shoes?
Why should UCF have to settle for whatever shit offer is pushed across the table? They're right to stand their ground.
 

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Why should UCF have to settle for whatever shit offer is pushed across the table? They're right to stand their ground.

Standing their ground is fine if they never want to be seriously considered for the playoffs in this format.

Reality is you have to take games like this if you want a shot at the big boys in the regular season.
 

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Why should UCF have to settle for whatever shit offer is pushed across the table? They're right to stand their ground.

Fine, don't accept it. Just keep whining about not even being considered for the playoff in that case. Nobody is going to take them seriously when they play a powder puff schedule that features 0 ranked teams.
 

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Standing their ground is fine if they never want to be seriously considered for the playoffs in this format.

Reality is you have to take games like this if you want a shot at the big boys in the regular season.
They'll find another P5 opponent to schedule a home and home with. It's not like they haven't played South Carolina and Stanford in recent years, or anything.

Fine, don't accept it. Just keep whining about not even being considered for the playoff in that case. Nobody is going to take them seriously when they play a powder puff schedule that features 0 ranked teams.
Florida putting themselves on a pedestal is laughable. UCF, a much smaller program, has soaked up all the spotlight in the state of Florida over the last 2 seasons.
 

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Florida putting themselves on a pedestal is laughable. UCF, a much smaller program, has soaked up all the spotlight in the state of Florida over the last 2 seasons.


Florida doesn't need anything from ucf. Its very much the other way around. If they don't want a 2 for 1 deal then fine. Don't accept it. They'll just get nothing instead. They can enjoy their little cracker jack box 45,000 seat stadium which is falling apart because their built it on the cheap, their cheap tickets and tiki bar and tarps they have to use to try to cover for the fact that they only average about 30,000 fans per game despite the cheap tickets and playing a bunch of cupcakes against whom they earn no respect by beating.
 

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Florida doesn't need anything from ucf. Its very much the other way around. If they don't want a 2 for 1 deal then fine. Don't accept it. They'll just get nothing instead. They can enjoy their little cracker jack box 45,000 seat stadium which is falling apart because their built it on the cheap, their cheap tickets and tiki bar and tarps they have to use to try to cover for the fact that they only average about 30,000 fans per game despite the cheap tickets and playing a bunch of cupcakes against whom they earn no respect by beating.
Yeah, Florida should probably worry more about the Georgia and Mizzou problem they're going to have for the foreseeable future.

UCF will keep doing what they're doing and hang out in the top 10, play NY6 Bowl Games, with a fraction of the resources to that of the Gaytors.
 

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Yeah, Florida should probably worry more about the Georgia and Mizzou problem they're going to have for the foreseeable future.

UCF will keep doing what they're doing and hang out in the top 10, play NY6 Bowl Games, with a fraction of the resources to that of the Gaytors.

*Yawn* UF will keep competing in the best conference in America and will continue to recover from a couple of bad coaching hires.

Mickey Mouse Community College will soon fade back to irrelevance even at their cupcake level. Its what they do.
 

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*Yawn* UF will keep competing in the best conference in America and will continue to recover from a couple of bad coaching hires.

Mickey Mouse Community College will soon fade back to irrelevance even at their cupcake level. Its what they do.
Rome wasn't built in a day. Brick-by-brick, UCF continues to grow. Knights clearly live in your head, rent free.
 

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Rome wasn't built in a day. Brick-by-brick, UCF continues to grow. Knights clearly live in your head, rent free.

Yes they live in our heads so much that we don't think them worthy of a home and home contract. :lol:
 

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Yes they live in our heads so much that we don't think them worthy of a home and home contract. :lol:
Nah, you just don't need the recruiting area as much. The USF games in the 2020s has everything to do with Florida's desire to recruit more out of Tampa.

Don't make this into something its not. Florida has nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing UCF.
 

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Nah, you just don't need the recruiting area as much. The USF games in the 2020s has everything to do with Florida's desire to recruit more out of Tampa.

Don't make this into something its not. Florida has nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing UCF.

UF recruits Tampa and Orlando just fine as is. Those have always been good recruiting grounds for UF and that's not going to change.

You are right though that UF has nothing to gain by playing ucf. That's why smaller and newer programs always want to play the established program in-state and why they don't generally want to reciprocate.
 

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They'll find another P5 opponent to schedule a home and home with. It's not like they haven't played South Carolina and Stanford in recent years, or anything.


Florida putting themselves on a pedestal is laughable. UCF, a much smaller program, has soaked up all the spotlight in the state of Florida over the last 2 seasons.
South Carolina or Stanford aren't going to be good enough for UCF to make the playoffs.
 
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