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But was he speedy enough? Was wondering if his track time was up to par ...
What does speed have to do with catching TDs? As long as someone can break away and cause separation, that's all that matters. Moss was so big, athletic and had a wingspan of a condor
 

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Just so ya know....

OFF SEASON.......yep, fucking around waiting for some football, when it starts the fucking around stops, time to get serious.

I do make weekly picks average 10 wins a week SU and never lose ATS$$$$$ over a season.
10 wins straight up... yeahhh woo? 62.5% straight picks? Woo..
Whats your ATS rate?
 

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10 wins straight up... yeahhh woo? 62.5% straight picks? Woo..
Whats your ATS rate?

You don't seem to get it, you average 10 SU wins over a season you will win most contests which I do and will be proving that this season.

Somewhere between 63-66% a season, playing 110 to win a 100 until the playoffs. Ya gotta have a system and I do.
 

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You don't seem to get it, you average 10 SU wins over a season you will win most contests which I do and will be proving that this season.

Somewhere between 63-66% a season, playing 110 to win a 100 until the playoffs. Ya gotta have a system and I do.
Favorites win at a higher clip than 60% also no, unless your betting alot of underdogs, who do not win at a60% clip you are not going to make significant money factoring in vig and and roi.

if picking with disregard to money. Picking the favorite will yield a higher result than 10 games a week.
 

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Favorites win at a higher clip than 60% also no, unless your betting alot of underdogs, who do not win at a60% clip you are not going to make significant money factoring in vig and and roi.
You hit 63-66% of your ats picks? Playing 110 games?
 

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So all of a sudden ya want to talk, what happened to -- well?
Piqued my interest with something that actually is worth discussing. Not correlating 40 times and 4x2’s and shot puts to how a linebacker plays football.
 

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Piqued my interest with something that actually is worth discussing. Not correlating 40 times and 4x2’s and shot puts to how a linebacker plays football.

Dude. keep it real, ok?

A team plays one of four roles a week....

HF....home fav
RF....road fav
RD....road dog
HD....home dog

Your job as a serious player is find out how the teams do in what role they are in that week ATS.

You only want to go back a couple seasons, forget historical trends.

Now how do these teams do in sept/oct/nov/dec ATS.

You look for "spots" where one team has all the ATS advantages, stuff like heading into a bye, coming out of a bye, second home or road game in a row, after TNF.

Your job is to search out the best 3/5 plays that week, looking for teams with advantages.

Yep, homework.
 

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But was he speedy enough? Was wondering if his track time was up to par ...

Dude, you have any idea at all what happens to any WR who runs a 4.65 at the combine? Ya don't have a clue do ya?
 

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Dude. keep it real, ok?

A team plays one of four roles a week....

HF....home fav
RF....road fav
RD....road dog
HD....home dog

Your job as a serious player is find out how the teams do in what role they are in that week ATS.

You only want to go back a couple seasons, forget historical trends.

Now how do these teams do in sept/oct/nov/dec ATS.

You look for "spots" where one team has all the ATS advantages, stuff like heading into a bye, coming out of a bye, second home or road game in a row, after TNF.

Your job is to search out the best 3/5 plays that week, looking for teams with advantages.

Yep, homework.
so again, you're stating you hit 63-66% ATS? yes? and avg 10 straight up picks per week on the whole card?
 

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so again, you're stating you hit 63-66% ATS? yes? and avg 10 straight up picks per week on the whole card?

Yep, sure do.

I put in the time do the homework that is needed. Know what to look for and how it is done. Took years to get it down.
 

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Up, sure do. I put in the time do the homework that is needed. Know what to look for and how it is done. Took years to get it down.
well, I look forward to seeing it. IF true, you hit at a better clip than every professional handicapper in vegas.
 

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well, I look forward to seeing it. IF true, you hit at a better clip than every professional handicapper in vegas.

Been at it since 1977, so have as much or more experience as anyone. Like anything else it takes time but with enought time you will figue it out.
 

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Been at it since 1977, so have as much or more experience as anyone. Like anything else it takes time but with enought time you will figue it out.
not saying you don't have experience. Merely stating, that ATS, the best in the business are not hitting 66%
 

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not saying you don't have experience. Merely stating, that ATS, the best in the business are not hitting 66%

Like I said 63-66 somewhere in there, not always 66 obviously. Why do you play this guy, let up man, sheesh!

Old guy, seen a lot of football, big track fan.....why fight it like ya do?
 

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Ya take his only season at Marshall and his first 4 NFL seasons...

8216 yards/79 TD;s that's amazing.

Wonder what Rice had, hmmm?
Only season!?!

I watched him play multiple season at Marshall, in person.

He won a Natty his first year at Marshall. And I met him after the Motor City Bowl the next season.
 

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Only season!?!

I watched him play multiple season at Marshall, in person.

He won a Natty his first year at Marshall. And I met him after the Motor City Bowl the next season.


Not sure how much he played his first season.
 
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