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that little blip always gets kinda forgotten..Sam Bradford, Kellen Clemens, AJ Feeley...SJAX at 28 years old was the only real NFL playmaker they had. Brandon Lloyd was there for part of the season, but at 30 he had a foot out the door. Not much to work with..but he is Josh McDaniels, he's supposed to get water from a stone.

his Denver offenses with Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow were nothing to write home about either.

I truly hope he's still got his NE touch in him when he has Carr, Adams, Waller, Renfrow and Jacobs (and AMMMMEEEERRRR) to work with. is it REALLY that big of a step down from Brady, Moss, Gronk, Welker, and whatever RB they used that year?

Edit./.ha..nevermind, Gronk isn't THAT old

Except he was responsible for having Orton and Tebow by trading away Cutler for Orton and picks and drafting Tebow the following year.

He even traded a 2010 1st round pick for a 2009 2nd rounder. The Seahawks used that first rounder to take Earl Thomas. Oops!

Maybe he can be a good head coach, but he should never be a GM again or have that kind of control over personnel decisions.
 

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Except he was responsible for having Orton and Tebow by trading away Cutler for Orton and picks and drafting Tebow the following year.

He even traded a 2010 1st round pick for a 2009 2nd rounder. The Seahawks used that first rounder to take Earl Thomas. Oops!

Maybe he can be a good head coach, but he should never be a GM again or have that kind of control over personnel decisions.
You didn't even mention the whole Maurice Clarret debacle...

There was some severe front office issues in Denver that offseason, Pat Bollen was in fading health, and not all that present, there was no GM, no president, since Shanny Sr. was the end all be all the year prior, McDaniels should've never been anything but the coach, but he filled both roles. He wasn't even close to ready.

Now..none of that excuses the choices he made, he's still %100 responsible, but it's not quite as cut and dry as 'he fucked it all up'. The Broncos organization holds plenty of liability for their choice in making an OC be their president/GM/Head coach all at once as well.
 

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that little blip always gets kinda forgotten..Sam Bradford, Kellen Clemens, AJ Feeley...SJAX at 28 years old was the only real NFL playmaker they had. Brandon Lloyd was there for part of the season, but at 30 he had a foot out the door. Not much to work with..but he is Josh McDaniels, he's supposed to get water from a stone.

his Denver offenses with Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow were nothing to write home about either.

I truly hope he's still got his NE touch in him when he has Carr, Adams, Waller, Renfrow and Jacobs (and AMMMMEEEERRRR) to work with. is it REALLY that big of a step down from Brady, Moss, Gronk, Welker, and whatever RB they used that year?

Edit./.ha..nevermind, Gronk isn't THAT old
if its 07 u r talking about watson was the TE 36/389/6

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moss
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stallworth
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maroney
morris
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451 rushes
586 passes
 

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Seahawks just can not keep their RBs healthy.:gaah:
And now he's undergoing a "procedure", yet its not a sports hernia or a core muscle issue..gotta be one of those rare 1-3% of "other" hernia's that are just weird shit going on inside the body.
Done for preseason, questionable for week 1..great
 

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And now he's undergoing a "procedure", yet its not a sports hernia or a core muscle issue..gotta be one of those rare 1-3% of "other" hernia's that are just weird shit going on inside the body.
Done for preseason, questionable for week 1..great
Guess on the bright side it's just an odd ball problem and once fixed should not be a problem again.
 

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Rodgers blasting his young receivers in public. Hm.
 

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Rodgers blasting his young receivers in public. Hm.
I thought he was praising them, particularly Doubs.

Then again, with Rodgers it might be a Good Cop/Bad Cop thing.

With Rodgers playing both roles.
 

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Watson suspension extended to 11 games and a big ass fine.

Still not enough imo, but a helluvalot better than six.

So, do the Browns now make the deal for JimmyG?
 

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Watson suspension extended to 11 games and a big ass fine.

Still not enough imo, but a helluvalot better than six.

So, do the Browns now make the deal for JimmyG?
I heard something that they could release him? I don't believe that. I think they can at least get something like what the Browns got for trading Baker
 
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