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Yeah, but even if it is that much, are we even sure that Deshaun is the one that will be paying that money? Hell the Browns probably just told him that they would pay whatever settlement amount it took just to get this over with. In the grand scheme of things that's pennies for Browns ownership to not have everything in those cases become public record. They are already dealing with enough PR backlash and I'm sure they are paying at least part of this settlement amount, but we'll never know, because that's the kind of shit we never hear about but you know it happens.
And even if we aren’t, Watson just got $230M guaranteed. He can pull $3M out of his ass
 

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"My Watson settlement smells funny.... almost like he pulled it out of his ass or something"
 

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Found this on ESPN tonight. Thought I would post it because I didn't know this was the process:

What happens after the league concludes its investigation?​

Under the new collective bargaining agreement, any recommendation the NFL makes about discipline for Watson -- be it a fine, a suspension or both -- would then go before retired U.S. District Judge Sue L. Robinson, who serves as a jointly appointed (by the NFL and the NFLPA) discipline officer. Robinson is likely to conduct her own hearing, involving an interview with Watson and other witnesses. This means even once the league makes a decision on whether and how to discipline Watson, the process may take a while to resolve. If the league imposes discipline, Robinson upholds it and Watson is unsatisfied with the decision, he can appeal the fine and/or suspension. In that case, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell would hear the appeal and make a final decision. -

Do these settlements change the timeline or investigation?​

Absolutely not. The NFL made this clear in the statement it issued within minutes of Buzbee's announcement Tuesday.

The league continues to stress the collectively bargained aspect of the process and the fact the league's investigative team, headed by Lisa Friel, is conducting the investigation while Goodell awaits the decision by his investigators and, eventually, Robinson.

Is it possible the settlement of 20 of the pending civil suits could speed up the league's investigation, given the reduction in the number of cases that could potentially go to trial and reveal new information? Sure. But with four still pending, there remains the possibility information could come out that the league's investigation did not uncover on its own. -- Graziano

Where is the NFLPA in all of this?​

The players' union has been working with Watson and his attorneys on a plan to contest any potential discipline in front of Robinson. The union recently enlisted the help of its longtime counsel Jeffrey Kessler in this effort, and if Friel's team issues a recommendation of discipline, the NFLPA and its attorneys will likely argue on behalf of Watson for a reduction in said discipline. The NFLPA, according to sources, is expecting some sort of discipline, likely a suspension, though it remains anyone's guess how long that suspension would be. -- Graziano

Is Watson likely to be suspended?​

All signs certainly point in that direction. The situation is unprecedented in a lot of ways, as it's the first potential discipline case to be conducted since the new CBA (and its establishment of the independent arbitrator) was signed in the spring of 2020. But based on all the behind-the-scenes conversations I've had over the past few months, there is a widespread expectation the league's investigation will result in at least some suspension for Watson under the personal conduct policy.

Whether Robinson, who is new to the process, agrees with the league's recommendation is the wild card. It's entirely possible the league could recommend discipline, and Robinson, after her own review of the case, could rule that none is warranted. While the answer to the question has to be yes, given what we know so far, it must be mentioned that there remains a nonzero chance Watson does not get suspended once the process is complete. --
 

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Found this on ESPN tonight. Thought I would post it because I didn't know this was the process:

What happens after the league concludes its investigation?​

Under the new collective bargaining agreement, any recommendation the NFL makes about discipline for Watson -- be it a fine, a suspension or both -- would then go before retired U.S. District Judge Sue L. Robinson, who serves as a jointly appointed (by the NFL and the NFLPA) discipline officer. Robinson is likely to conduct her own hearing, involving an interview with Watson and other witnesses. This means even once the league makes a decision on whether and how to discipline Watson, the process may take a while to resolve. If the league imposes discipline, Robinson upholds it and Watson is unsatisfied with the decision, he can appeal the fine and/or suspension. In that case, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell would hear the appeal and make a final decision. -

Do these settlements change the timeline or investigation?​

Absolutely not. The NFL made this clear in the statement it issued within minutes of Buzbee's announcement Tuesday.

The league continues to stress the collectively bargained aspect of the process and the fact the league's investigative team, headed by Lisa Friel, is conducting the investigation while Goodell awaits the decision by his investigators and, eventually, Robinson.

Is it possible the settlement of 20 of the pending civil suits could speed up the league's investigation, given the reduction in the number of cases that could potentially go to trial and reveal new information? Sure. But with four still pending, there remains the possibility information could come out that the league's investigation did not uncover on its own. -- Graziano

Where is the NFLPA in all of this?​

The players' union has been working with Watson and his attorneys on a plan to contest any potential discipline in front of Robinson. The union recently enlisted the help of its longtime counsel Jeffrey Kessler in this effort, and if Friel's team issues a recommendation of discipline, the NFLPA and its attorneys will likely argue on behalf of Watson for a reduction in said discipline. The NFLPA, according to sources, is expecting some sort of discipline, likely a suspension, though it remains anyone's guess how long that suspension would be. -- Graziano

Is Watson likely to be suspended?​

All signs certainly point in that direction. The situation is unprecedented in a lot of ways, as it's the first potential discipline case to be conducted since the new CBA (and its establishment of the independent arbitrator) was signed in the spring of 2020. But based on all the behind-the-scenes conversations I've had over the past few months, there is a widespread expectation the league's investigation will result in at least some suspension for Watson under the personal conduct policy.

Whether Robinson, who is new to the process, agrees with the league's recommendation is the wild card. It's entirely possible the league could recommend discipline, and Robinson, after her own review of the case, could rule that none is warranted. While the answer to the question has to be yes, given what we know so far, it must be mentioned that there remains a nonzero chance Watson does not get suspended once the process is complete. --
Well IMO a suspension is going to happen, if Watson settles the remaining 4 suits ( and Buzbee has indicated they would/ could be settled) then likely it's 6 to 8 weeks, where earlier I was thinking at a year.
 
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Was hoping he grew up. Guess not . Hes always had rumors of inflated ego. Generally a good guy that just needs to grow up a bit. Nothing bad. Just get that work ethic down, thinks hes better than hes is.

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See... I think his reputation at this point is making him a target. When I see it in print it looks boastful and tone deaf. When you hear the audio it sounds more like that player confidence thing. It came off as "I know I'm top three I just need to put it all together and prove it".

And I'm not Claypool fan really. I'm a fan of his physical talent (he absolutely could be an alpha in this league) but I'm not a fan of his maturity and his motivations.
 

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See... I think his reputation at this point is making him a target. When I see it in print it looks boastful and tone deaf. When you hear the audio it sounds more like that player confidence thing. It came off as "I know I'm top three I just need to put it all together and prove it".

And I'm not Claypool fan really. I'm a fan of his physical talent (he absolutely could be an alpha in this league) but I'm not a fan of his maturity and his motivations.
Hey. I hope you're right. Theres been rumors of his tone deafness with some radio hosts. But nothing consistent.
 

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Does anyone besides me find it odd that Justin Jackson has not even been made an offer? I find that hard to believe.
 

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Does anyone besides me find it odd that Justin Jackson has not even been made an offer? I find that hard to believe.

yes, considering the saints brought David Johnson in for a workout recently when Jackson has had more success when given a chance than DJ lately.

Am I surprised that he doesn't have an offer/isn't on a roster currently? not really, those day 3 RBs have proven themselves to be very expendable/replaceable in recent years and the chargers have spent a day 3 pick on RB three years in a row now. You see similar decent but very uninspiring players like Jamaal Williams, Rex Burkhead, Gus Edwards, CEH, Brandon Bolden, Mark Ingram all ranked in roughly the top 30 for RB salaries in the league, and it makes sense that there isn't a bunch of teams rushing to get Jackson $2-$3mil per year for a RB insurance policy
 

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Not dropping him in Old School.

August 24th, 2022…
Ring, ring.
Gronk: Hello?
Brady: Gronk.
Gronk: TB from TB, wassup?
Brady: about that tweet… thinking one more year.
Gronk: man, I was invited to a Labor Day weekend beach rave.
Brady: I’ll buy you the beach in 2023 spring…and beer for life.
Gronk: what time’s the game?
 

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This Wiki list of suspensions is broken into 4 sections: Players (which could include both team or league suspensions), then there is a section for Players who violated substance policies, then Coaches, and finally Executives.

Some entries do not give specifics or reasons (tho they do give the entire 659 cross reference sources if you have the time).

There are a wide variety of reasons for the suspensions, gambling, DUI, domestic violence, PED's, etc. But there are some oddities as well: deflategate, a ref being suspended for not calling for a review, texting during a game, and the like.

The NFL wants its players to reflect a certain image.

There have been suspensions for (what some may refer to as) trivial incidents: such as tripping, taking a helmet off another player, punching. Is what Watson did worse than these things? In the eyes of many, most likely.

On the other side of the coin, some may argue that while taking PED's is wrong, the player may only be harming himself. A question the league may be backed into a corner to address with Watson: Is what he did (some 26 times) worse than say taking PED's? In other words, was Watson's conduct detrimental to himself alone, or others? Because the suspensions for PED's can be severe.

I'm not implying that I know anything. I'm just weighing these past suspensions in the light of what Watson is being accused of and who it ultimately affects. I could be wrong, but it doesn't look good for him if the league wants to set a precedent under a new CBA.
 

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This Wiki list of suspensions is broken into 4 sections: Players (which could include both team or league suspensions), then there is a section for Players who violated substance policies, then Coaches, and finally Executives.

Some entries do not give specifics or reasons (tho they do give the entire 659 cross reference sources if you have the time).

There are a wide variety of reasons for the suspensions, gambling, DUI, domestic violence, PED's, etc. But there are some oddities as well: deflategate, a ref being suspended for not calling for a review, texting during a game, and the like.

The NFL wants its players to reflect a certain image.

There have been suspensions for (what some may refer to as) trivial incidents: such as tripping, taking a helmet off another player, punching. Is what Watson did worse than these things? In the eyes of many, most likely.

On the other side of the coin, some may argue that while taking PED's is wrong, the player may only be harming himself. A question the league may be backed into a corner to address with Watson: Is what he did (some 26 times) worse than say taking PED's? In other words, was Watson's conduct detrimental to himself alone, or others? Because the suspensions for PED's can be severe.

I'm not implying that I know anything. I'm just weighing these past suspensions in the light of what Watson is being accused of and who it ultimately affects. I could be wrong, but it doesn't look good for him if the league wants to set a precedent under a new CBA.
Well IF he did any of these 26 things, it definitely hurt others, or at least ONE other, and it ain't gonna be good
 

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Not dropping him in Old School.

August 24th, 2022…
Ring, ring.
Gronk: Hello?
Brady: Gronk.
Gronk: TB from TB, wassup?
Brady: about that tweet… thinking one more year.
Gronk: man, I was invited to a Labor Day weekend beach rave.
Brady: I’ll buy you the beach in 2023 spring…and beer for life.
Gronk: what time’s the game?
 

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I guess that makes Seattle skill players a little more attractive than Geno Smith and Drew Lock. Maybe
 

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OMG, I hope Lockett is involved and sent somewhere else in this deal!
 
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