Fantasy Football News and Rumors

[Barilko]

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports free agent QB Colin Kaepernick's workout with the Raiders "was largely considered a positive."​

In his quest to return to the NFL, Kaepernick reportedly turned in a solid outing with the Raiders on Thursday. Fowler noted that his arm strength and conditioning were both "good overall" as we now wait to get word on a potential signing. The 34-year-old quarterback last played in the league in 2016, but could push for the backup role behind Derek Carr. The Raiders made a trade for former Patriot Jarrett Stidham two weeks ago, and also have journeyman Nick Mullens on the roster.


Hey, IF the guy can play, great, whatever, welcome aboard, especially if you're good enough to displace Derrick f'n Carr.

Much like any other entertainer on my radar, if he can entertain me, I get bang for my buck, I don't care about their politics, criminal history (within limits), or especially the color of their skin. the only reason I care about them at all, is what they bring to the table in my break from reality every Sunday/concert/movie night/whatever, everything else is irrelevant, and when they aren't on the stage in front of me or on my TV screen, they are not a factor in my mind ( Fantasy football studying aside..of course). Just keep that other stuff away from my entertainment dollar..it was hard earned, and spent in good faith that I was buying a break from that crap.

But lets be clear, this dude sucked 6 years ago and hasn't played since, I have a very hard time buying that IF being answered in the affirmative. And if he isn't good enough to be a starting QB, I can't see the circus that follows him being worth it for a backup job.

where are the clapping hands when i need them...Great Stuff Mr Treff

 

[averagejoe]

NAILED IT - the fact that anyone is bringing him in to kick the tires proves your point.

Appreciate it.
Didnt even think of Nick Foles as i was typing it. Foles' value is so low and yet to be reunited with Reich as a backup is "safe." Which is more of a reflection on the current state of the young QB in the NFL right now.

Not sure who the USFL passing leader is, but he may be getting a call from an NFL GM.

 

[Clayton]

Mariota coming out of college was compared to Kap. The team that just lost Mariota gave Kap a call. Fairly typical 'next man up' imo assuming Kap is good with being a backup

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Not sure who the USFL passing leader is, but he may be getting a call from an NFL GM.

That guy? He got cut from his team for trying to order pizza from the hotel instead of eating chicken salad.

sounds totally made up, right? the only part that's fabricated is the "USFL passing leader". They actually cut a dude (RB I think?) from that league this year and told him it was because he was rude to the hotel staff. He politely declined their chicken salad and simply asked if they had something else like pizza he could eat. Should've just told the guy he wasn't good enough, don't have to make shit up for added drama, damn.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

they won games in 2020, but was that due to Baker or their defense and run game?
Not sure I can agree with ABOVE league avg, with the stats being extremely avg or even below avg in 2020:

• 3500 passing yards - below avg
• 26 TDs - middle of the pack
• 7.3 yd/att - middle of the pack
• 62.8% completion rate - below avg
• 43 big plays (over 20yds) - below avg

Those look like bridge QB stats while your team is looking for its franchise QB, not "pay this man ++$30mil/yr to be our starter". His performance was good ROI on a rookie contract, but teams with an unaddressed need at QB at the end of May are few and far between. I'd much rather have Baker than Kap as my backup QB, for whatever that's worth, but at least Kap's taken a team to the SB before.

Agree and that was his "best" year out of 4 years of playing. ESPN had him ranked as QB 18 at the end of that season. We seen teams trade for these under whelming QBs, Wentz to the Colts, Darnold to the Panthers, are a couple from last season and I feel those teams regret those trades.
Folks can say Mayfield is better then X, Y,or Z QB, but does he really elevate the team? Is he someone future franchise QB? I don't think so. Now if he was a FA and is willing to sign a team friendly contract then sure, let come into camp and compete for a roster spot, but give something like the Colts or Panthers gave? No thanks and no to paying him the kind of money he's making. A trade like the Bridgewater to Broncos last year where the Panthers paid 17 out 20 million and received a 6th round future pick is about right and I got to say that deal didn't really help the Broncos. We talk about how RBs are replaceable because you can always find one, well mediocre QBs are not rare either.

 

[TREFF]

This may be true, but has the new crop of QB that has come into the NFL been better than a sucky Kap?

Its so bad that Trubs & Mariota are getting second chances. Compared to what is out there, Kap could still be an upgrade.

Well, the one big sticking point..none of those young guys come with a media circus. None of those young guys are gonna have the mass media or half the general public questioning your motives (and thus your character as a human being/coach/gm/owner) if you don't start him.
If he's gonna be your starter, I absolutely get it, and i'm %100 behind it. If not, just ain't worth it, not by a long shot

 

[Shanemansj13]

Agree and that was his "best" year out of 4 years of playing. ESPN had him ranked as QB 18 at the end of that season. We seen teams trade for these under whelming QBs, Wentz to the Colts, Darnold to the Panthers, are a couple from last season and I feel those teams regret those trades.
Folks can say Mayfield is better then X, Y,or Z QB, but does he really elevate the team? Is he someone future franchise QB? I don't think so. Now if he was a FA and is willing to sign a team friendly contract then sure, let come into camp and compete for a roster spot, but give something like the Colts or Panthers gave? No thanks and no to paying him the kind of money he's making. A trade like the Bridgewater to Broncos last year where the Panthers paid 17 out 20 million and received a 6th round future pick is about right and I got to say that deal didn't really help the Broncos. We talk about how RBs are replaceable because you can always find one, well mediocre QBs are not rare either.

Team friendly contract? For a QB that could be $15-$20M and Mayfield is right in that range. If you trade for Mayfield and the Browns cover 50% or more so you are looking at a ridiculous bargain. Sure it’s only for one year but that’s what you want. You want to see what he has and you are paying basically nothing for him. That’s why I don’t get the questions about elevating a team. It’s one year, is he better than the options you have, yes. You can’t even sign someone for his caliber in FA for that cheap. If he has a good year and that team ways to give him a multi-year contract…great. Teams like the Giants, for example, have nothing to lose. Jones isn’t the future and you can basically try him out for one year without paying a premium.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Team friendly contract? For a QB that could be $15-$20M and Mayfield is right in that range. If you trade for Mayfield and the Browns cover 50% or more so you are looking at a ridiculous bargain. Sure it’s only for one year but that’s what you want. You want to see what he has and you are paying basically nothing for him. That’s why I don’t get the questions about elevating a team. It’s one year, is he better than the options you have, yes. You can’t even sign someone for his caliber in FA for that cheap. If he has a good year and that team ways to give him a multi-year contract…great. Teams like the Giants, for example, have nothing to lose. Jones isn’t the future and you can basically try him out for one year without paying a premium.

It's a losing strategy to invest in these mediocre QBs other then the bare minimum. The Wentz, Darnold and Mayfield of the world are basically fools gold and teams who sign them are basically simply spinning their wheels and getting no where.

 

[averagejoe]

Well, the one big sticking point..none of those young guys come with a media circus. None of those young guys are gonna have the mass media or half the general public questioning your motives (and thus your character as a human being/coach/gm/owner) if you don't start him.

Circus?
Maybe if you're nostalgic I suppose. In the last 6 years, there has been enough political and social unrest to overshadow it, not to mention the NFL's own branding issues including Florez, Watson and the wife-beaters I cant remember that make kneeling during the national anthem seem harmless.

 

[Shanemansj13]

It's a losing strategy to invest in these mediocre QBs other then the bare minimum. The Wentz, Darnold and Mayfield of the world are basically fools gold and teams who sign them are basically simply spinning their wheels and getting no where.

One year is not investing

 

[TREFF]

Circus?
Maybe if you're nostalgic I suppose. In the last 6 years, there has been enough political and social unrest to overshadow it, not to mention the NFL's own branding issues including Florez, Watson and the wife-beaters I cant remember that make kneeling during the national anthem seem harmless.

It ain't the kneeling I'm concerned about.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

One year is not investing

If it's a deal like Bridgewater to Broncos I agree, if it's a deal like Darnold to the Panthers I disagree.

 

[Shanemansj13]

If it's a deal like Bridgewater to Broncos I agree, if it's a deal like Darnold to the Panthers I disagree.

Yeah at this point, I don't see it being like Darnold but we will see.

 

[Shanemansj13]

 

[TREFF]

Crazy....sure hope they plan on using him

 

[femurov]

Crazy....sure hope they plan on using him

(Checking my Old School roster) Me, too!

 

[wilwhite]

It's a losing strategy to invest in these mediocre QBs other then the bare minimum. The Wentz, Darnold and Mayfield of the world are basically fools gold and teams who sign them are basically simply spinning their wheels and getting no where.

There are only seven active SB-winning QBs:
Stafford
Brady
Mahomes
Foles
Wilson
Flacco
Rodgers

Two of those guys are no better than Mayfield. Rams made the SB with Goff and the Niners with Grop. It's possible to get there with a mediocre QB.

Wentz is a mess, but the Commanders can easily shed him and his cap hit in 2023. This wasn't a good year to draft a QB.

 

[TREFF]

There are only seven active SB-winning QBs:
Stafford
Brady
Mahomes
Foles
Wilson
Flacco
Rodgers

Two of those guys are no better than Mayfield. Rams made the SB with Goff and the Niners with Grop. It's possible to get there with a mediocre QB.

Wentz is a mess, but the Commanders can easily shed him and his cap hit in 2023. This wasn't a good year to draft a QB.

Or was it??? Just not early. The Ridders, Corrals, Willis's.. now have no pressure, can sit and develop, watch and learn, be groomed. Just like back in the day when QB's weren't expected to start year one. I think it was a great year to draft a QB, if you didn't feel the need to start him this year.

 

[Yellow Fuzzies]

What the hell are they thinking. this guy has shown nothing!

 

[averagejoe]

FWIW
In Kaepernick's final season, he averaged 246 yards from scrimmage (passing + rushing).
Not great by any stretch.
in 2021, there were 16 QB who averaged better.
Keep in mind, Nick Foles was one of the 16 who only started 1 game.
Daniel Jones was only 3 yards better than Kap (on average).
And even Aaron Rodgers was only 17 yards better on average (263).

Maybe this is unfair and even slightly skewed, but there were 69 QB who started games in 2021 and had less than Kap's 246 yards from scrimmage.