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I still wanna know why Brees thinks Goff to Watkins is a winner.
 

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Well, this is the fantasy football forum, so let's keep it as a fantasy WR comparison.

Landry had 4 weeks less than 5pts in a standard league, Djax had 8. Landry is vastly superior in fantasy terms, as he'll rarely disappoint you, Jackson will disappoint you half the time.

Now you want discuss who's the better NFL receiver, what they bring to their teams offense, those types of things, Jackson probably wins. But not in here
 

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Below average QBs forced the ball to players like Hopkins and Gordon recently. Sometimes a receiver makes a qb look better than he is. Ironically, Hoyer was QB for both those teams those two years but he wasn't really targeting Gordon before he got hurt. Weeden, and later Campbell, were. Hoyer himself was in a QB quandary in 2015 and there were other players forcing the ball to Hopkins the last two years. The only player who didn't do it was Osweiller.
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I still wanna know why Brees thinks Goff to Watkins is a winner.

I don't think that. I simply don't know. But these GMs don't know how to run a team if all they can think about is giving someone talent over what that talent wants. It's a game GMs will never win and will only cripple their org trying to be big shots.
 

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I don't think that. I simply don't know. But these GMs don't know how to run a team if all they can think about is giving someone talent over what that talent wants. It's a game GMs will never win and will only cripple their org trying to be big shots.

Well, that's a damn reasonable answer, sir.
 

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Speaking Tuesday, John Brown (quad) made it clear he's not 100 percent and has no plans to "rush back."

Coach Bruce Arians intimated earlier in the day that Brown was ready to practice in full, but Brown isn't yet capable. "My body is different than others'," Brown said. "They expect me to come back fast, but I can’t. I’m all right, but I’m not where I want to be at." Brown remains more day-to-day than the week-to-week he has been for the past 2.5 weeks, but he's doubtful to play in the second preseason game. It's just another reminder how fragile and slow to recover Brown has been dating back to last year at this time. He's more of a high-ceiling, low-floor WR4.
 

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Well, this is the fantasy football forum, so let's keep it as a fantasy WR comparison.

Landry had 4 weeks less than 5pts in a standard league, Djax had 8. Landry is vastly superior in fantasy terms, as he'll rarely disappoint you, Jackson will disappoint you half the time.

Now you want discuss who's the better NFL receiver, what they bring to their teams offense, those types of things, Jackson probably wins. But not in here

In ppr Landry is definitely superior. In standard I'm not sure but...I don't see how games under 5 pts is how we'd determine it... if player a has 8 games with 0 points and 8 games with 30 points he's still better than player b who had 12 points in all 16 games.
 

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In ppr Landry is definitely superior. In standard I'm not sure but...I don't see how games under 5 pts is how we'd determine it... if player a has 8 games with 0 points and 8 games with 30 points he's still better than player b who had 12 points in all 16 games.
No he isn't, he just finished with a lot of points, doesn't make him a reliable fantasy asset. . there's a massive difference. I used 5 points as just a simple "line in the sand". As in, "i don't feel kicked in the nuts, at least he got me 5" not reaching 5 pints 8 times in 16 games is terrible, and the primary reason why I'll always say DJax is the most overrated receiver in the game. .. the game being fantasy football
 

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No he isn't, he just finished with a lot of points, doesn't make him a reliable fantasy asset. . there's a massive difference. I used 5 points as just a simple "line in the sand". As in, "i don't feel kicked in the nuts, at least he got me 5" not reaching 5 pints 8 times in 16 games is terrible, and the primary reason why I'll always say DJax is the most overrated receiver in the game. .. the game being fantasy football

It's not terrible when the other 8 games you're getting 30 points. More points in an inconsistent package is still more points. And more points is better.
 

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It's not terrible when the other 8 games you're getting 30 points. More points in an inconsistent package is still more points. And more points is better.
it is terrible, those duds cost u
 

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It's not terrible when the other 8 games you're getting 30 points. More points in an inconsistent package is still more points. And more points is better.
Yeah most would definitely disagree with you. The idea is for them to score big when in the lineup, not on the bench and unless you got a Chrystal ball it usually doesn't work that way.
Think the majority of FF players dislike a boom or bust type player.
 

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It's not terrible when the other 8 games you're getting 30 points. More points in an inconsistent package is still more points. And more points is better.
Not necessarily, if he gets me 30, and i win by 29, great for me but Landry and his 12 would've win that game anyways, if he gets me 4 and i loose 8 games by 1, that one he destroyed my opponent in by 29 doesn't make up for those. And he isn't getting 30, his top score, in standard, was like 16, Landry's was 17
 

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ill take the guy with 16 pints eadch week, consistency

I'm in!

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Yeah most would definitely disagree with you. The idea is for them to score big when in the lineup, not on the bench and unless you got a Chrystal ball it usually doesn't work that way.
Think the majority of FF players dislike a boom or bust type player.

This hypothetical player wouldve been RB7 last year in ppr. Id be starting him every week.

And even if you arent youre odds are still 50/50 when you play him. Expected value of 15 points instead of expected value of 12.

The majority of fantasy players might dislike those players but I think theyre wrong too.
 

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Not necessarily, if he gets me 30, and i win by 29, great for me but Landry and his 12 would've win that game anyways, if he gets me 4 and i loose 8 games by 1, that one he destroyed my opponent in by 29 doesn't make up for those. And he isn't getting 30, his top score, in standard, was like 16, Landry's was 17

In that hypothetical situation youre correct, but thats a very narrowly defined situation.
 
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