Draft talk time

[Gulf of Brazil]

You think he goes earlier than 5th?

He has just as much potential if not more due to his better run fits than does Cox but a much greater value should he be drafted anywhere during the day 3, imo.

 

[Old Lion]

Two of my favorite OLB/Edge rusher
Both have good eye recognition, burst, lateral speed, can shed a block in the trash and still make the tackle whether in the backfield or LOS. In each of their tapes they also have shown the ability to drop in space and gives pursuit quite a ways down field. Their motors run hot and will only get better with a higher level of coaching. High floor and the potential for a much higher ceiling with the right coaching.

Janarius Robinson #11 .............................. 6'5 266 ......... 87" wingspan ......... 35 3/4" arms ......... 11" hands




Jayson Oweh #28 .............................. 6'5 255 .......... He's young but he and Robinson both have quick processors

Really like Robinson.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Really like Robinson.

maybe a day 3 pick as an edge rusher. maybe.

Teams take risks on qb's almost as much as edge rusher's.

you never know.

 

[Mebert]

Kiper latest mock has us trading the 7 for the 12, a second, and a future pick. At 12 we take Parsons

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Kiper latest mock has us trading the 7 for the 12, a second, and a future pick. At 12 we take Parsons

Whoa, seriously ?

Makes me nervous because he had Hock and Okudah pegged all along. (laughing at you BB_72 for even mentioning that)

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Kiper latest mock has us trading the 7 for the 12, a second, and a future pick. At 12 we take Parsons

I'd be down with that even though it may read as a flip flop artist - again

One caveat to that selection.

I'm finding a way to draft Hybrid hang S/LB Owusu-Koramaoh should he drop into the early - mid twenties and a team is willing to deal.

Both of those plus the 5th year option rookie buys me time through 2025 to build that defense in the middle and back end.

Still would draft your Wallow in the 5th too.

 

[Mebert]

I'd be down with that even though it may read as a flip flop artist - again

One caveat to that selection.

I'm finding a way to draft Hybrid hang S/LB Owusu-Koramaoh should he drop into the early - mid twenties and a team is willing to deal.

Both of those plus the 5th year option rookie buys me time through 2025 to build that defense in the middle and back end.

Still would draft your Wallow in the 5th too.

I am down for a trade back no matter what. Lions need all the draft assets they can get. I am all for moving back and building for the future. He has Owusu-Koramaoh going to Miami at 18.

I don't have a particular pick in mind, but a trade back and taking a defender would be a win in my mind.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

This years DE/Edge Rushers I'm somewhat skeptical of but I think you could still get one in the 3rd or 4th that'd be value picks - plus, @Stomp DT, Twyman, might still be there in 3rd round (he opted out and only has 1 year true starting. That could drop him. possibly.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

He has Owusu-Koramaoh going to Miami at 18.

You just killed that fantasy of having both Parsons/Owusu-Koramoah

Thanks.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I am down for a trade back no matter what. Lions need all the draft assets they can get.

What was the fantasy get back for the Lions ?

never mind. I should have gone back and read - thoroughly.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Kiper latest mock has us trading the 7 for the 12, a second, and a future pick. At 12 we take Parsons

Is that Kiper mock on their pay-wall only ?

 

[Mebert]

Is that Kiper mock on their pay-wall only ?

yeah, one second I will get it

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

low and behold an article that, written today, discusses some trepidations I've had regarding Parsons. It's his somewhat questionable coverage abilities. I didn't see many difficulties in shallow zones - between the hashes - It was once he's trailing a RB, TE, WR outside the hashes I'm concerned with.

Is Micah Parsons Being Overlooked In 2021 NFL Draft? | The Draft Network

 

[Mebert]

1. Jacksonville Jaguars - Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson​

Trade: Atlanta moves up to get the No. 2 QB​

2. Atlanta Falcons (via mock trade with NYJ) - Zach Wilson, QB, BYU​

3. Miami Dolphins (from HOU) - DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama

4. New York Jets (via mock trade with ATL) - Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida​

5. Cincinnati Bengals - Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon​

6. Philadelphia Eagles - Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU​

Trade: San Francisco shakes up the draft​

7. San Francisco 49ers (via mock trade with DET) - Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State​

8. Carolina Panthers - Mac Jones, QB, Alabama​

Trade: The Pats snag their franchise QB​

9. New England Patriots (via mock trade with DEN) - Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State​

10. Dallas Cowboys - Patrick Surtain II, CB, Alabama​

11. New York Giants - Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama​

12. Detroit Lions (via mock trade with SF) - Micah Parsons, LB, Penn State​

13. Los Angeles Chargers - Rashawn Slater, OL, Northwestern​

14. Minnesota Vikings - Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC​

15. Denver Broncos (via mock trade with NE) - Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech​

16. Arizona Cardinals - Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina​

17. Las Vegas Raiders - Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU​

18. Miami Dolphins - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB, Notre Dame​

19. Washington Football Team - Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virginia Tech ​

20. Chicago Bears - Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida​

21. Indianapolis Colts - Gregory Rousseau, DE, Miami​

22. Tennessee Titans - Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami​

23. New York Jets (from SEA) - Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan​

24. Pittsburgh Steelers - Landon Dickerson, C, Alabama​

25. Jacksonville Jaguars (from LAR) - Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama​

26. Cleveland Browns - Zaven Collins, OLB/DE, Tulsa​

27. Baltimore Ravens - Terrace Marshall Jr., WR, LSU​

28. New Orleans Saints - Jayson Oweh, DE, Penn State​

29. Green Bay Packers - Joe Tryon, OLB/DE, Washington​

30. Buffalo Bills - Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma State​

31. Kansas City Chiefs - Walker Little, OT, Stanford​

32. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Azeez Ojulari, OLB/DE, Georgia​

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Oh my. Frisco going after Fields.

Okay, that makes sense for the 1st, 2nd and future pick.

 

[Clayton]

1. Jacksonville Jaguars - Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson​

Trade: Atlanta moves up to get the No. 2 QB​

2. Atlanta Falcons (via mock trade with NYJ) - Zach Wilson, QB, BYU​

3. Miami Dolphins (from HOU) - DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama

4. New York Jets (via mock trade with ATL) - Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida​

5. Cincinnati Bengals - Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon​

6. Philadelphia Eagles - Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU​

Trade: San Francisco shakes up the draft​

7. San Francisco 49ers (via mock trade with DET) - Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State​

8. Carolina Panthers - Mac Jones, QB, Alabama​

Trade: The Pats snag their franchise QB​

9. New England Patriots (via mock trade with DEN) - Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State​

10. Dallas Cowboys - Patrick Surtain II, CB, Alabama​

11. New York Giants - Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama​

12. Detroit Lions (via mock trade with SF) - Micah Parsons, LB, Penn State​

13. Los Angeles Chargers - Rashawn Slater, OL, Northwestern​

14. Minnesota Vikings - Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC​

15. Denver Broncos (via mock trade with NE) - Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech​

16. Arizona Cardinals - Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina​

17. Las Vegas Raiders - Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU​

18. Miami Dolphins - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB, Notre Dame​

19. Washington Football Team - Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virginia Tech ​

20. Chicago Bears - Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida​

21. Indianapolis Colts - Gregory Rousseau, DE, Miami​

22. Tennessee Titans - Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami​

23. New York Jets (from SEA) - Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan​

24. Pittsburgh Steelers - Landon Dickerson, C, Alabama​

25. Jacksonville Jaguars (from LAR) - Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama​

26. Cleveland Browns - Zaven Collins, OLB/DE, Tulsa​

27. Baltimore Ravens - Terrace Marshall Jr., WR, LSU​

28. New Orleans Saints - Jayson Oweh, DE, Penn State​

29. Green Bay Packers - Joe Tryon, OLB/DE, Washington​

30. Buffalo Bills - Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma State​

31. Kansas City Chiefs - Walker Little, OT, Stanford​

32. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Azeez Ojulari, OLB/DE, Georgia​

Mac Jones, Landon Dickerson and Walker Little really jump out at me when Im looking at where I have them. Atlanta trading up also seems weird.

 

[Mebert]

Mac Jones, Landon Dickerson and Walker Little really jump out at me when Im looking at where I have them. Atlanta trading up also seems weird.

Mac Jones not only top 10, but ahead of Lance seems like a long shot to me.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I do not see DeVonta Smith being drafted in the top 10 or even top 15. I would think Miami would pull the trigger at No.18 should he fall.

I, personally, have nothing against DeVonta because he held up against SEC CB, S, LB (all NFL body size type for 4 years without a significant injury) but his size would definitely give me some pause.

 

[Clayton]

Mac Jones not only top 10, but ahead of Lance seems like a long shot to me.

A GM is upset with Teddy Bridgewater's upside so he goes out and drafts an out-of-shape college QB that was carried by great receivers. The mental gymnastics needed to believe that are pretty astounding.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Vegas drafting S Moehrig while Kwity Paye is available appears unrealistic. They need edge rushers in a big way. That drafting of Clelin Ferrell at 4 in 2019 isn't looking good and neither was their 3rd first round selection of S Abram in that same draft.

Definitely some odd selections.