Down on the Farm 2024

[LHG]

“Dues” is not a nick name, and he wasn’t a 9th rounder.

 

[tzill]

Jerar Encarnación just keeps hitting since the Giants signed him. He’s now on a 14-game hitting streak going back to a 3-hit game on July 4th, going 24-for-54 (.444) with two doubles and five home runs. As a River Cat, he’s got a .355/.444/.607 batting line.

last night: 4-5, 2 R, 5 RBI, 1 HR (8)

 

[calsnowskier]

Jerar Encarnación just keeps hitting since the Giants signed him. He’s now on a 14-game hitting streak going back to a 3-hit game on July 4th, going 24-for-54 (.444) with two doubles and five home runs. As a River Cat, he’s got a .355/.444/.607 batting line.

last night: 4-5, 2 R, 5 RBI, 1 HR (8)

He will be up eventually this year. I believe that. Hill and Baumann will be dfa’d this week when there is a better chance they will clear.

 

[LHG]

He will be up eventually this year. I believe that. Hill and Baumann will be dfa’d this week when there is a better chance they will clear.

I understand collecting some depth but FZ collects depth and then gets more depth so that his original depth could still be depth when more depth is added. Ultimately, they aren't depth, they are just more players he can grab and let go in a matter of months, if not weeks in some cases. (Or days, like Drew Pomerantz). The dud gets a bit phrenetic on acquiring minor leaguers and fringe players sometimes.

By the way, it took Encarnacion almost two months to be able to start playing due to some sort of visa issue after signing with the Giants.

 

[calsnowskier]

I understand collecting some depth but FZ collects depth and then gets more depth so that his original depth could still be depth when more depth is added. Ultimately, they aren't depth, they are just more players he can grab and let go in a matter of months, if not weeks in some cases. (Or days, like Drew Pomerantz). The dud gets a bit phrenetic on acquiring minor leaguers and fringe players sometimes.

By the way, it took Encarnacion almost two months to be able to start playing due to some sort of visa issue after signing with the Giants.

You know you don’t have to convince me that FZ is loco en la cabeza , right?

 

[sf1giantfan]

I understand collecting some depth but FZ collects depth and then gets more depth so that his original depth could still be depth when more depth is added. Ultimately, they aren't depth, they are just more players he can grab and let go in a matter of months, if not weeks in some cases. (Or days, like Drew Pomerantz). The dud gets a bit phrenetic on acquiring minor leaguers and fringe players sometimes.

By the way, it took Encarnacion almost two months to be able to start playing due to some sort of visa issue after signing with the Giants.

Depth>Depth>Depth

 

[LHG]

You know you don’t have to convince me that FZ is loco en la cabeza , right?

 

[LHG]

There are 8 players on rehab assignments with the ACL squad (including a couple who were immediately sent to the ACL upon being placed on their previous assignment's IL). Here are the ones I find most intriguing:

Ethan Small - If he does well in rehab, he may be able to provide a fresh arm to the big league bullpen
Marques Johnson - acquired in a trade last year, he showed some potential but has been sidelined up to now in 2024
Thomas Szapucki - Another guy that looked to have some promise, he was acquired in a trade with the Mets and has missed a significant chunk of 2023 and 2024
Aeverson Arteaga - After the 2022 season, he looked like the shortstop of the future for the Giants but scuffled last year and has been injured all of this year
Kanoa Pagan - The 19th round pick in the 2019 draft, I'm mainly intrigued to see how he does after not throwing a pitch in a professional game since August 2022. He was first placed on the restricted list with the ACL Giants Black on August 5, 2022, staying on that list until after the 2023 season and then spending most of 2024 on San Jose's IL.

 

[Sandisfan]

There are 8 players on rehab assignments with the ACL squad (including a couple who were immediately sent to the ACL upon being placed on their previous assignment's IL). Here are the ones I find most intriguing:

Ethan Small - If he does well in rehab, he may be able to provide a fresh arm to the big league bullpen
Marques Johnson - acquired in a trade last year, he showed some potential but has been sidelined up to now in 2024
Thomas Szapucki - Another guy that looked to have some promise, he was acquired in a trade with the Mets and has missed a significant chunk of 2023 and 2024
Aeverson Arteaga - After the 2022 season, he looked like the shortstop of the future for the Giants but scuffled last year and has been injured all of this year
Kanoa Pagan - The 19th round pick in the 2019 draft, I'm mainly intrigued to see how he does after not throwing a pitch in a professional game since August 2022. He was first placed on the restricted list with the ACL Giants Black on August 5, 2022, staying on that list until after the 2023 season and then spending most of 2024 on San Jose's IL.

Are the Giants cursed that so many drafted guys play so little because of injuries and eventually get released or retire from the game? It seems one could make a long list of players in their system who played 20 or 30% of games while they were with the club before their departure in the last five or more years.

 

[LHG]

Are the Giants cursed that so many drafted guys play so little because of injuries and eventually get released or retire from the game? It seems one could make a long list of players in their system who played 20 or 30% of games while they were with the club before their departure in the last five or more years.

Good question. I’ve not monitored other farm systems like I do the Giants so I have no idea whether their farmhands deal with more injuries than others.

 

[Stokes1931]

Good question. I’ve not monitored other farm systems like I do the Giants so I have no idea whether their farmhands deal with more injuries than others.

Just spitballing here, but I think this is pretty common in baseball. Drafting and development is more art than science, and each franchise places different risk/reward weights on injured players. Do you draft a guy who would have gone top 10 but he had Tommy John surgery? Seems like the Giants have been more on the reward side, but have been burned by these not working out. It does seem like there are a lot of IL slots filled with Giants, though.

 

[tzill]

-Robert Hipwell assigned to San Jose
-Jose Ortiz and Ryan Reckley promoted to San Jose from ACL
-Dylan Carmouche promoted to Eugene from San Jose
-Jack Choate, Justin Wishkoski, and Julio Rodriguez to Richmond from Eugene

 

[calsnowskier]

-Robert Hipwell assigned to San Jose
-Jose Ortiz and Ryan Reckley promoted to San Jose from ACL
-Dylan Carmouche promoted to Eugene from San Jose
-Jack Choate, Justin Wishkoski, and Julio Rodriguez to Richmond from Eugene

Interesting that Reckley gets into the REAL pipeline. He is a legit pedigreed prospect.

 

[Stokes1931]

I am surprised Harris was not elevated from Eugene to Richmond. He's a bit older, undrafted. But he has been lights out in San Jose and Eugene this season. His ERA is less than 2 and his WHIP is less than 1.

Oh, and the DSL Black team is now 30-10.

 

[LHG]

I am surprised Harris was not elevated from Eugene to Richmond. He's a bit older, undrafted. But he has been lights out in San Jose and Eugene this season. His ERA is less than 2 and his WHIP is less than 1.

Oh, and the DSL Black team is now 30-10.

I would guess he gets about a week in Richmond right at the end of the season but I wouldn't be surprised if Eugene is his final stop of the season.

 

[LHG]

-Robert Hipwell assigned to San Jose
-Jose Ortiz and Ryan Reckley promoted to San Jose from ACL
-Dylan Carmouche promoted to Eugene from San Jose
-Jack Choate, Justin Wishkoski, and Julio Rodriguez to Richmond from Eugene

It is time for the draft shuffle. There has got to be a few guys being let go from the ACL as well. That roster is packed (although I have no idea on the limit that they can carry, just know it is at least 32).

 

[calsnowskier]

It is time for the draft shuffle. There has got to be a few guys being let go from the ACL as well. That roster is packed (although I have no idea on the limit that they can carry, just know it is at least 32).

I haven’t heard of any NDFAs yet, but we got 19 new kids coming in…

 

[LHG]

I haven’t heard of any NDFAs yet, but we got 19 new kids coming in…

Neither have I but I have my doubts they will sign any, considering they have one less ACL team than last year.

And the MLB Draft Tracker still doesn't show the 20th round pick having signed.

 

[LHG]

Apparently, Drew Strotman's mediocre year with the RiverCats last year was so inspiring that they decided to just bring him back. Putting the RiverCats' pitching staff at 19.

 

[calsnowskier]

Neither have I but I have my doubts they will sign any, considering they have one less ACL team than last year.

And the MLB Draft Tracker still doesn't show the 20th round pick having signed.

That is odd, but if you open his player page directly from the tracker, it shows him as signed. Maybe the terms haven’t been announced, so they can’t post to the tracker?