Does TO get in next year in his first year on the ballot?

[HammerDown]

It's unimportant whether he does or not.he won't be remembered as anything other than an interesting statistic. Plenty of guys who earned it never get in

He's better than any two receivers the Packers ever had.

 

[HammerDown]

I do.

Being a great WR is about way more than being able to run fast and jump high. That is an extremely small part of the equation when it comes to being a great WR that casual fans way to often over-emphasis. TO was great but he wasn't the catcher of the football Rice was, he wasn't the route runner, he didn't have the YAC ability Rice did and he most certainly didn't have the drive to be the perfectionist that Rice had.

No one in their right mind would say I want TO on my team over Jerry Rice. It's laughable to even think that someone might say that.

Line up 100 NFL GMs and 99 take TO. It's not even close. Jerry Rice was a product of a very specific set of circumstances, nothing more. Good, certainly not great.

 

[SonnyCID]

Whose legend grows faster towards perfection with each year of hindsight, Rice or Deion?

 

[BHF]

Line up 100 NFL GMs and 99 take TO. It's not even close. Jerry Rice was a product of a very specific set of circumstances, nothing more. Good, certainly not great.

Oooooo....solid troll. Almost had me for a second.

Well done.

 

[BHF]

Whose legend grows faster towards perfection with each year of hindsight, Rice or Deion?

Considering Rice was frequently ranked as one of the best players in NFL history, regardless of position, before he had even retired...

 

[handicappers]

Considering Rice was frequently ranked as one of the best players in NFL history, regardless of position, before he had even retired...

no he wasn't

 

[BHF]

no he wasn't

I remember TSN ranking him only behind Jim brown in 1998 or so. Nobody batted an eye.

The funny part of this argument is that TO himself, that model of humility, has gone on record as saying that Rice was better than him.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

People can ignore players with criminal history and off the field problems, but are outraged at TO for character issues?

 

[HammerDown]

Whose legend grows faster towards perfection with each year of hindsight, Rice or Deion?

It's incredible, isn't it?

 

[HammerDown]

People can ignore players with criminal history and off the field problems, but are outraged at TO for character issues?

Yes, after all, he "imploded" teams.

 

[SonnyCID]

It's incredible, isn't it?

Great players. But it's annoying how they're above criticism or comparisons. Just shut the HOF door for any future WRS and CBs, the best ever are there and they don't need company.

 

[HammerDown]

Great players. But it's annoying how they're above criticism or comparisons. Just shut the HOF door for any future WRS and CBs, the best ever are there and they don't need company.

Jerry Rice would have a difficult time making a roster in today's game unless he was paired with Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers, then he'd be good in the slot.

 

[ducky]

Line up 100 NFL GMs and 99 take TO. It's not even close. Jerry Rice was a product of a very specific set of circumstances, nothing more. Good, certainly not great.

Was that in seriousness or in jest? I can't tell.

Because you couldn't be more incorrect on that if you were being serious. Might be one of the silliest things I have read on any football message board.

 

[ducky]

Great players. But it's annoying how they're above criticism or comparisons. Just shut the HOF door for any future WRS and CBs, the best ever are there and they don't need company.

No one is saying that TO shouldn't make the HOF (at least that I have seen). It's just that he likely isn't going to be a first ballot guy with how the HOF candidates are lined up for next year.

If Harrison wasn't still waiting, I would be here saying TO should be a 1st ballot.

But for anyone to say TO was on the same level as Rice just shows one hell of a level of naivety. Again my only assumption is that the people saying this didn't watch or don't remember football before the year 1998. Rice was another level player and just as gifted athletically as anyone before he suffered that knee injury and played the last 6 years or so of his career as a possession WR.

 

[HammerDown]

Was that in seriousness or in jest? I can't tell.

Because you couldn't be more incorrect on that if you were being serious. Might be one of the silliest things I have read on any football message board.

Good. Not great.

 

[ducky]

Good. Not great.

What age are you Hammer? Did you see Rice in his prime?

 

[HammerDown]

What age are you Hammer? Did you see Rice in his prime?

Yes, I saw the team he was on too. He was a product of that. But yeah, I applaud his "work ethic."

 

[Xponentialchaos]

Jerry Rice, considered by many to be the greatest football player of all time, would have a difficult time making it onto an NFL roster today...

Hammer, that's the stupidest thing I've ever seen from you. It's bad enough to say that TO was better than Rice, but to say that he wouldn't even be able to make a team? Ridiculous. I think you're just trolling.

I'm just gonna put this right here.


I'm out. Troll on.

 

[BHF]

Was that in seriousness or in jest? I can't tell.

Because you couldn't be more incorrect on that if you were being serious. Might be one of the silliest things I have read on any football message board.

All about those page views, baby.