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Does Oregon need to dominate UCLA like FSU did Clemson?

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If they want a shot to jump FSU? Or do you think a 2 or 3 TD win will do it? Or do you think they have no shot to jump FSU this week no matter what?
 

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well, the computers will get closer between Oregon and FSU if both win.

Question is, do you think the voters will sway much.

And right now, FSU is up .0028, which is a minute margin.

If they dont pass FSU this week then they will after Stanford in Oregon's next game.

Providing Oregon wins.

Oregon is a 24 point home favorite over UCLA
 

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To jump FSU this week?

Put at least 50 on the board, and hold UCLA under 14.

Stanford held UCLA to 10.
 

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Keep in mind, FSU just got their best victory of the year on Saturday.

And they still didnt pass Oregon in the Coaches, and Harris has Oregon #2 as well.

Both polls have Oregon a solid #2.

Oregon should eventually pass FSU in cpus as well.
 

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To jump FSU this week?

Put at least 50 on the board, and hold UCLA under 14.

Stanford held UCLA to 10.

computers dont take in margin of victory.

The human element wont drop Oregon if they dont blow out UCLA.
 

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remember, it is.0028. That is essentially nothing.

CPUs have
1 FSU
2 Bama
3 Mizzoo
4 Oregon

1 of the above is guaranteed a loss. That make Oregon at minimum a cpu #3.

And that isnt considering the Ducks remaining opponents.... 3 of them are 6-1, and all the rest have winning records.
 

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I agree, it really doesn't matter this week because Oregon will jump them eventually. If Oregon gets through their schedule undefeated, they will have beaten a lot more quality teams.
 

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It really is ridiculous we have to have this conversation.

Anyone who plays in a big boy conference and goes unbeaten should get a shot.

Eyeball tests and voters to determine who is the best.

Hopefully it all takes care of itself and we only have two unbeatens.

Otherwise its a shit storm.

Ya, on paper Bama, Oregon, ans FSU appear to be the best 3. But who is to say an Ohio State or Baylor couldnt beat one of them. Never would know as the game wasnt played.

Ask 02 Miami
 

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computers dont take in margin of victory.

The human element wont drop Oregon if they dont blow out UCLA.

I know the computers don't take margin of victory intoo consideration.

It's the human polls that Oregon needs to keep on their side.

They'll be watching both FSU and Oregon closely from here on out.

If Oregon's defense gives up in the mid/upper 20's and their offense only puts up 30's, they're gonna lose some human support. It really is a fashion show as long as the two stay undefeated.
 

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If they beat UCLA they will pass FSU. Just beat
 

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It really is ridiculous we have to have this conversation.

Anyone who plays in a big boy conference and goes unbeaten should get a shot.

Eyeball tests and voters to determine who is the best.

Hopefully it all takes care of itself and we only have two unbeatens.

Otherwise its a shit storm.

Ya, on paper Bama, Oregon, ans FSU appear to be the best 3. But who is to say an Ohio State or Baylor couldnt beat one of them. Never would know as the game wasnt played.

Ask 02 Miami

:nod:

Exactly
 

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I know the computers don't take margin of victory intoo consideration.

It's the human polls that Oregon needs to keep on their side.

They'll be watching both FSU and Oregon closely from here on out.

If Oregon's defense gives up in the mid/upper 20's and their offense only puts up 30's, they're gonna lose some human support. It really is a fashion show as long as the two stay undefeated.

ya, maybe. I honestly doubt it though.

I have a hard time seeing an undefeated Oregon team getting jumped by anyone behind them in human polls.

The defense is going to give up points. They are on the field nearly 35 minutes a game vs only having the ball on offense 25 minutes a game.
 

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If they want a shot to jump FSU? Or do you think a 2 or 3 TD win will do it? Or do you think they have no shot to jump FSU this week no matter what?


even if Oregon does pass FSU this week it is likely only for the week. oregon has next week off while FSU plays Miami so FSu would likely jump over and idle Oregon again. then oregon plays stanford so oregon would likely jump FSU who plays Wake Forest that week.
After that Syracuse Idaho and Florida does not stack up Utah, Arizona and Oregon State.
 

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even if Oregon does pass FSU this week it is likely only for the week. oregon has next week off while FSU plays Miami so FSu would likely jump over and idle Oregon again. then oregon plays stanford so oregon would likely jump FSU who plays Wake Forest that week.
After that Syracuse Idaho and Florida does not stack up Utah, Arizona and Oregon State.

Yeah, Oregon has tougher schedule. No reason FSU passes Oregon if we don't lose. After Miami, FAU plays absolutely nobody (this includes Florida).
 

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ya, maybe. I honestly doubt it though.

I have a hard time seeing an undefeated Oregon team getting jumped by anyone behind them in human polls.

The defense is going to give up points. They are on the field nearly 35 minutes a game vs only having the ball on offense 25 minutes a game.

Maybe the espn BCS selection show talking heads were just placating to the masses, but they sure jumped on FSU's cock the other night. Went out of their way to defend the results and imply FSU would be a better game vs Bama.
 

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Oh really?

ya, i doubt it.

Its not like they are playing scrub tech.

They are playing the #12 team in the country. If they win the game by a fg they arent losing pollster support.

Not that it matters as Oregon most likely wins going away. UCLA is very much over matched in this game.
 
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