Does anyone think that the Dbacks will win the NL West in 2016?

[Villain]

This question is especially for non-Dbacks fans.

 

[moxie]

Fuck the Dodgers.


And no.

 

[Omar 382]

It wouldn't shock me, because they do have a good core, but they definitely lack depth. They're projected to get 2.9 wins from their second base, shortstop, left field, and right field positions. Also count me as one of those who expects a significant regression from Greinke (aging, hitters park, and his ERA last year was probably a little lucky [3.22 xFIP and a .229 BABIP vs. a career .298 BABIP]).

 

[Omar 382]

And let's not forget he's losing Yasmany Grandal's heralded pitch framing

 

[Fountain City Blues]

It wouldn't shock me, because they do have a good core, but they definitely lack depth. They're projected to get 2.9 wins from their second base, shortstop, left field, and right field positions. Also count me as one of those who expects a significant regression from Greinke (aging, hitters park, and his ERA last year was probably a little lucky [3.22 xFIP and a .229 BABIP vs. a career .298 BABIP]).

He did induce quite a bit of soft contact to play the devil's advocate. But even if you normalize the degree of contact, Grienke was pretty darn fortunate in the ERA department. Should be interesting to see to what degree does Grienke regress.

 

[Bolts]

They're gonna finish 2nd behind the Padres, but win a WC spot.

 

[dredinis21]

They're gonna finish 2nd behind the Padres, but win a WC spot.

 

[Bolts]

Hey, it can happen! Undefeated in 2016!

 

[tducey]

No, but I do think they'll be a wild card team.

 

[moxie]

They're gonna finish 2nd behind the Padres, but win a WC spot.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

This poll is geared to make most fans vote no.

The NL West is a bitch. One of the toughest divisions in baseball next year without a doubt, predicting the winner isn't a yes or no poll for one team.

Wild Card seems to be a more likely option for them or whichever NLW team that finishes 2nd.

Anyway. They have the potential… but it doesn't matter what anyone thinks. They gotta play the games for a reason. I like our chances to make the playoffs barring any major injuries.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

It wouldn't shock me, because they do have a good core, but they definitely lack depth. They're projected to get 2.9 wins from their second base, shortstop, left field, and right field positions. Also count me as one of those who expects a significant regression from Greinke (aging, hitters park, and his ERA last year was probably a little lucky [3.22 xFIP and a .229 BABIP vs. a career .298 BABIP]).

Couple things…

1) Greinke will regress without a doubt, no way any pitcher can have back to back seasons that great. That being said, he's still a MAJOR upgrade over the shitfest we had in our rotation last year. Josh Collmenter was our Opening Day starter.

2) We get a full year of Corbin. Last year he pitched about roughly the final 45%-ish of games of the season. Having him as our 3rd and Miller at #2 completely revamps our rotation. Our #4 & 5 starters were our #1 & 2 starters for half the year last year and we still managed to win 78 games.

The offense lacks depth sure, but there are some under the radar guys that are due to breakout like Tomas, Brito, Lamb, Owings, etc. Just need one of those guys to have a big year and we're in great shape. Then you've got contributors like Castillo, Segura, Ahmed, etc.

With Pollock, Goldy and Peralta leading the way it's still a very dangerous offense.

 

[The Derski]

It won't be the Dodgers...

 

[bksballer89]

TBD.

I try not to get excited about these off season moves until I see the product on the field.

Remember how high everyone was on San Diego and Seattle last season?

 

[Erie Warrior]

I don't see them winning the Division. They are much improved, but still lack depth.

 

[Omar 382]

Couple things…

1) Greinke will regress without a doubt, no way any pitcher can have back to back seasons that great. That being said, he's still a MAJOR upgrade over the shitfest we had in our rotation last year. Josh Collmenter was our Opening Day starter.

2) We get a full year of Corbin. Last year he pitched about roughly the final 45%-ish of games of the season. Having him as our 3rd and Miller at #2 completely revamps our rotation. Our #4 & 5 starters were our #1 & 2 starters for half the year last year and we still managed to win 78 games.

The offense lacks depth sure, but there are some under the radar guys that are due to breakout like Tomas, Brito, Lamb, Owings, etc. Just need one of those guys to have a big year and we're in great shape. Then you've got contributors like Castillo, Segura, Ahmed, etc.

With Pollock, Goldy and Peralta leading the way it's still a very dangerous offense.

Yes... so...?

 

[calsnowskier]

They are a decent team. They have a chance to take the division. But I think the Giants and dogs are still more complete. I would rate it at about 40/40/20. Probably more in favor of SF and LA than that, even.

 

[cmc_rebar]

I don't care who wins as long as it's not the giants

 

[Arizona_Sting]

They are a decent team. They have a chance to take the division. But I think the Giants and dogs are still more complete. I would rate it at about 40/40/20. Probably more in favor of SF and LA than that, even.

I don't get the hype with the Doyers honestly. SF is the much better team.

Their offense is basically Gonzalez who is getting up there in age, unreliable Pig, a rookie, and a sophomore entering his second year after a huge slump to end the season. Couple OK vets in Kendrick and AE, but their offense has a tons of question marks imo. The rotation is deep, but can you trust Ryu? Maeda hasn't proven anything yet either.

I'd say my preseason order goes: SF(35) AZ(30) LA (25) SD (5) COL (5)

 

[calsnowskier]

I don't get the hype with the Doyers honestly. SF is the much better team.

Their offense is basically Gonzalez who is getting up there in age, unreliable Pig, a rookie, and a sophomore entering his second year after a huge slump to end the season. Couple OK vets in Kendrick and AE, but their offense has a tons of question marks imo. The rotation is deep, but can you trust Ryu? Maeda hasn't proven anything yet either.

I'd say my preseason order goes: SF(35) AZ(30) LA (25) SD (5) COL (5)

My gut agrees about your read on the dogs. But I fear my clear bias effects my analysis, so I error in their favor to make up for it. Same thinking (but in reverse) when it comes to the Giants.