Do we have a CBA strife thread yet?

[Modhnoiri]

i heard bettmans soundbite:

"It's clear to me that they didn't put it together in an hour or two."



/smarmy weasel

 

[Modhnoiri]

...and on and on and on....

Okay. I'm done boys. Carry on.

 

[dash]

A tweet from Michael Grange:

nutshell #CBA: players get $1.89B for 3 yrs; owners keep bulk of rev growth from that period. Revenue sharing up; hard cap stays #NHL

Sounds like the players are giving the owners 3 years to get their respective houses in order. At least it looks like the players are serious about trying to play some hockey this season.

 

[mattola]

Part of NHLPA proposal allows teams to buy/sell draft picks and cap space from other #NHL clubs. How much would a 1st overall pick be worth?

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

Part of NHLPA proposal allows teams to buy/sell draft picks and cap space from other #NHL clubs. How much would a 1st overall pick be worth?

OH MY GOD, NO!!!! IT'S WANG'S DREAM COME TRUE!! Please don't allow this to happen. The Islanders are a mess as it is. If Wang is allowed to sell our draft picks to the highest bidder we'll NEVER draft another player as long as he owns the team.

 

[flyersfan4706]

Ive read that this proposal was a step in the right direction...

 

[Vadered]

I hacked into Bettman's computer, and found his response to the players. I couldn't make a copy without being detected and Shanabanned by the firewall, but I can make a transcript for you. It's... it's a song. Here you go.



(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)

Rookie you're a boy make a big noise
Playin' on the ice gonna get a big check some day
You want a ten mill gain?
That's insane.
You're restricted till you trade your stick in for a cane, singin'

We will we will lock you (out)
(Lock. You. Out!)
We will we will lock you (out)
(Lock. You. Out!)

Buddy you're an RFA, UFA
Shoutin' on the ice that you got a big raise today
You say luxury tax?
Here's the facts:
We'll half the cap and all your contracts.

We will we will lock you (out!)
(Lock. You. Out!) SING IT!
We will we will lock you (out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)

Buddy you're an old man D man
Pleadin' with GMs gonna get one last big pay day
You say share revenue?
Well fuck you.
We've got all the leverage and you bastards are SCREWED.

We will we will lock you (out)
(Lock. You. Out!) Sing it!
We will we will lock you (out)
(Lock. You. Out!) Everybody!
We will we will lock you (out)
(Lock. You. Out!)
We will we will lock you (out)

<Bitchin' guitar solo>
(Lock. You. Out!) x19



Well, dunno about you, but I feel the two sides are getting close.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Part of NHLPA proposal allows teams to buy/sell draft picks and cap space from other #NHL clubs. How much would a 1st overall pick be worth?

The idea of selling cap space worries me far more than selling draft picks.

 

[SLY]

Are you fucking kidding me? Buying/selling cap space? This is a fucking joke, right?

 

[SLY]

I hacked into Bettman's computer, and found his response to the players. I couldn't make a copy without being detected and Shanabanned by the firewall, but I can make a transcript for you. It's... it's a song. Here you go.



(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)

Rookie you're a boy make a big noise
Playin' on the ice gonna get a big check some day
You want a ten mill gain?
That's insane.
You're restricted till you trade your stick in for a cane, singin'

We will we will lock you (out)
(Lock. You. Out!)
We will we will lock you (out)
(Lock. You. Out!)

Buddy you're an RFA, UFA
Shoutin' on the ice that you got a big raise today
You say luxury tax?
Here's the facts:
We'll half the cap and all your contracts.

We will we will lock you (out!)
(Lock. You. Out!) SING IT!
We will we will lock you (out!)
(Lock. You. Out!)

Buddy you're an old man D man
Pleadin' with GMs gonna get one last big pay day
You say share revenue?
Well fuck you.
We've got all the leverage and you bastards are SCREWED.

We will we will lock you (out)
(Lock. You. Out!) Sing it!
We will we will lock you (out)
(Lock. You. Out!) Everybody!
We will we will lock you (out)
(Lock. You. Out!)
We will we will lock you (out)

<Bitchin' guitar solo>
(Lock. You. Out!) x19



Well, dunno about you, but I feel the two sides are getting close.

Lmao, these need to be made into YouTube vids. Rep.

 

[puckhead]

Are you fucking kidding me? Buying/selling cap space? This is a fucking joke, right?

it's a similar effect as rich teams transferring $ to poor teams anyways.
it's not unlimited though... proposal is you can exceed the cap or go below the floor by $4 million using this.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

it's a similar effect as rich teams transferring $ to poor teams anyways.
it's not unlimited though... proposal is you can exceed the cap or go below the floor by $4 million using this.

I guess $4M isn't so bad.

Would the proposal be $ for $?

 

[puckhead]

I guess $4M isn't so bad.

Would the proposal be $ for $?

that I don't know.
I doubt it though... they tend to like to create auction scenarios where possible.

 

[SLY]

it's a similar effect as rich teams transferring $ to poor teams anyways.
it's not unlimited though... proposal is you can exceed the cap or go below the floor by $4 million using this.

I still don't like it. There is a cap and a floor for a reason. They're modeling their system after the U.S. government. Not good.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I still don't like it. There is a cap and a floor for a reason. They're modeling their system after the U.S. government. Not good.

Wang plays games with the cap floor as it is. So it really doesn't matter what the cap numbers are, if Wang can find a way around actually spending money to reach the floor the other teams can certainly come up with creative ways to exceed the cap ceiling. Remember a year ago when some teams were complaining about the contract Buffalo signed Ehrhoff too? Buffalo did their homework. They found a loophole & took full advantage ot it.

 

[puckhead]

I still don't like it. There is a cap and a floor for a reason. They're modeling their system after the U.S. government. Not good.

:clock: :wacko:

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I can see it now. Bettman steps up to the podium & announces, "The New York Islanders have sold the 1st pick in the draft to the Toronto Maple Leafs. Toronto you're on the clock."

Burke says,"With the 1st pick in the NHL Draft the Toronto Maple Leafs select Nathan MacKinnon C from the QMJHL."

Darren Dreger regarding the sold draft pick, " The Leafs paid 10 Million for the Islanders pick & now have the franchise Center they've been trying to acquire for the past decade."

:

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

I can see it now. Bettman steps up to the podium & announces, "The New York Islanders have sold the 1st pick in the draft to the Toronto Maple Leafs. Toronto you're on the clock."

Burke says,"With the 1st pick in the NHL Draft the Toronto Maple Leafs select Nathan MacKinnon C from the QMJHL."

Darren Dreger regarding the sold draft pick, " The Leafs paid 10 Million for the Islanders pick & now have the franchise Center they've been trying to acquire for the past decade."

:

Let's be realistic here. We all know Toronto would turn around and trade that first rounder for a bag of pucks.

 

[Vadered]

I still don't like it. There is a cap and a floor for a reason. They're modeling their system after the U.S. government. Not good.

So you are saying you prefer communism, where every team gets their allotted cap space, no more, no less, regardless of any sort of skill or talent, as opposed to a capitalism, where teams can earn their own cap space?

Sly's a commie! And thanks to the converse fallacy of accident, that means all Boston folks must be communists! Oh, Boston, you were one of our proudest cities, and you've turned. Still, we have hope. We all know the way to best way to beat the red is with the orange and the black...

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

So you are saying you prefer communism, where every team gets their allotted cap space, no more, no less, regardless of any sort of skill or talent, as opposed to a capitalism, where teams can earn their own cap space?

Sly's a commie! And thanks to the converse fallacy of accident, that means all Boston folks must be communists! Oh, Boston, you were one of our proudest cities, and you've turned. Still, we have hope. We all know the way to best way to beat the red is with the orange and the black...

If they get rid of the cap system teams like the Flyers, Leafs & Rangers will have 100M payrolls. The Islanders will spend 20M if that. A hard cap system is a must for the NHL.