Do we have a CBA strife thread yet?

[DChero]

I have a somewhat unconventional idea to help here. Why not lower to max individual player salary down to say 10% of the cap, then up the floor to be within 10% of the team max salary cap?

By compressing this it gives the smaller markets a chance at retaining their big draft signing once they mature to UFA age and forces floor teams to either pay for talent or fold. If the difference between the floor and max salary is closer together, then there's no reason for any team to not be perennially uncompetitive (outside of the Leafs).

The other benefit here is that the difference between the top players and bottom players would be minimal, meaning less financial risk of gross over/underpayment for both parties. Essentially, that money needs to be spent to reach the floor anyway. Those lower-level players are assuming the same risks as the top-tier guys, why not reward them as well?

 

[KennyBanyeah]

I have a somewhat unconventional idea to help here. Why not lower to max individual player salary down to say 10% of the cap, then up the floor to be within 10% of the team max salary cap?

By compressing this it gives the smaller markets a chance at retaining their big draft signing once they mature to UFA age and forces floor teams to either pay for talent or fold. If the difference between the floor and max salary is closer together, then there's no reason for any team to not be perennially uncompetitive (outside of the Leafs).

The other benefit here is that the difference between the top players and bottom players would be minimal, meaning less financial risk of gross over/underpayment for both parties. Essentially, that money needs to be spent to reach the floor anyway. Those lower-level players are assuming the same risks as the top-tier guys, why not reward them as well?

I like the direction of this idea but the bold isn't logical. The lesser players don't make as much because they don't add wins, playoff games or tickets to an organization.

I think there is no way the players would go for only 10% as the max but it might be a good starting point.

 

[DChero]

I like the direction of this idea but the bold isn't logical. The lesser players don't make as much because they don't add wins, playoff games or tickets to an organization.

I think there is no way the players would go for only 10% as the max but it might be a good starting point.

The percentages are obviously negotiable, but the reason I went with 10% is because it brings the max individual cap into that $7m range. There aren't very many players making more than that. The majority of players make under $3m, which gives them more space to fill those middle of the pack guys. This also rewards the guys who have short careers due to injury. Guys like Wade Reddin would still be able to play under these rules.

The NHLPA is responsible for all players here. This rewards the majority.

 

[dash]

Supposedly, Fehr and the NHLPA will have their first counter offer ready for public viewing on Tuesday. At that point, we'll see how large the gulf/abyss/chasm truly is between the two parties.

 

[flyersfan4706]

My goodness gracious...

 

[Destroydacre]

Pretty much a given there's gonna be a lockout at this point. NHL is run by retards.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Supposedly, Fehr and the NHLPA will have their first counter offer ready for public viewing on Tuesday. At that point, we'll see how large the gulf/abyss/chasm truly is between the two parties.

As much as Bettman sucks in this, I think it's also ridiculous that the NHLPA hasn't put forth their own proposal yet.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

/I'd settle for a catapult

Rex Banner approves of your methods.

 

[dash]

Attaboy, Bobby.

Hockey legend Orr defends NHL players in contract dispute - New Brunswick - CBC News

 

[mooger_35]

Defending players? Orr?

"The former all-star, who is now a player agent, says the owners are making a lot of money and the players should not accept what’s currently being offered."

Shocked! Shocked I say...




/still love Bobby Orr.

 

[higgyfan4]

Yeah, yeah, we all love him, but seriously, what fans are angry with players? Most of the fans are more pissed at owners than they are the players.

 

[mattola]

fuck them both. fucking crybabies over millionaires and billionaires

players make money from the game
owners make money from the players
players take NO risk to financial loss if market sucks or economy sucks
owners take NO risk physically if hurt or loss of career

noone gives a fuck what the paying customer gets to watch or not watch come October.

fuck them both. what I want is both sides to shut the fuck up keep out of the media close the fucking door and work out the deal. just shut the fuck up already and work it out. I dont want anyone players or owners past or present fucking commenting on this anymore to sway "public" opinion

gary bettman - 3 time lockout champ. fuck and he makes waht $7M a year? maybe even more

fuck

 

[mooger_35]

I don't know about the rest of you but I don't want to miss my team NOT winning the cup again this year. What would I do with myself?

 

[dash]

fuck them both. fucking crybabies over millionaires and billionaires

players make money from the game
owners make money from the players
players take NO risk to financial loss if market sucks or economy sucks
owners take NO risk physically if hurt or loss of career

noone gives a fuck what the paying customer gets to watch or not watch come October.

fuck them both. what I want is both sides to shut the fuck up keep out of the media close the fucking door and work out the deal. just shut the fuck up already and work it out. I dont want anyone players or owners past or present fucking commenting on this anymore to sway "public" opinion

gary bettman - 3 time lockout champ. fuck and he makes waht $7M a year? maybe even more

fuck

man, how do you follow up an epic post like this?!? Well, all I can say is that the players still want to continue playing while a new CBA gets hammered out (and the league has recorded record revenues under the current CBA). The owners/Bettman want no part of that and will lock the players out if a new deal isn't reached by Sept. 15th.

Yes, some tweaks have to be made to the current CBA, and the players will have to make some concessions. However, that first offer by the league was a complete and utter joke. Everytime Bettman says the word "partnership" between the NHL and NHLPA, I get stabby. Since when do submitting bs offers and threats/ultimatums constitute a partnership?!?

 

[Vadered]

I don't know about the rest of you but I don't want to miss my team NOT winning the cup again this year. What would I do with myself?

Go rioting?

#yearoldjoke

 

[Vadered]

man, how do you follow up an epic post like this?!? Well, all I can say is that the players still want to continue playing while a new CBA gets hammered out (and the league has recorded record revenues under the current CBA). The owners/Bettman want no part of that and will lock the players out if a new deal isn't reached by Sept. 15th.

Yes, some tweaks have to be made to the current CBA, and the players will have to make some concessions. However, that first offer by the league was a complete and utter joke. Everytime Bettman says the word "partnership" between the NHL and NHLPA, I get stabby. Since when do submitting bs offers and threats/ultimatums constitute a partnership?!?

Is there any chance - any PRAYER - of them just tossing up a one year CBA that is basically a continuation of the current one in order to save the season?

 

[sherbert1421]

finally was able to get some winter classic tickets today so there better not be a fucking lockout

 

[puckhead]

well Brooksie has picked a side.
Larry Brooks: Commissioner Gary Bettman and NHL determined to cut players salaries, which would lead to lockout - NYPOST.com

 

[esls79]

finally was able to get some winter classic tickets today so there better not be a fucking lockout

Don't worry, that will be the first game of the regular season.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

Don't worry, that will be the first game of the regular season.

If there's one thing Leafs and Wings fans can actually come together and agree on, it's setting a world record for most, loudest, and longest boos.