Do we have a CBA strife thread yet?

[dash]

Don't worry, that will be the first game of the regular season.

The NHL can cancel the Jan. 1 Winter Classic at 115,000-seat Michigan Stadium as late as Jan. 1, the day of the game, because of a work stoppage “arising from the lack of a collective bargaining agreement,” the contract between the league and the University of Michigan shows.

The league would forfeit only $100,000 of its $3 million stadium rental fee, according to the contract. The rest of the fee would be refunded by the university.

The contract provisions give the league some leeway for salvaging its showcase event should a lockout delay the start of the 2012-13 season, enabling the N.H.L. to hold the Winter Classic even if a lockout is settled in late December.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

The NHL can cancel the Jan. 1 Winter Classic at 115,000-seat Michigan Stadium as late as Jan. 1, the day of the game, because of a work stoppage “arising from the lack of a collective bargaining agreement,” the contract between the league and the University of Michigan shows.

The league would forfeit only $100,000 of its $3 million stadium rental fee, according to the contract. The rest of the fee would be refunded by the university.

The contract provisions give the league some leeway for salvaging its showcase event should a lockout delay the start of the 2012-13 season, enabling the N.H.L. to hold the Winter Classic even if a lockout is settled in late December.

Ugh... that would be a huge blow to Michigan, Ontario, and especially U of M. They'd better get this done.

 

[puckhead]

NHL?s pay to Bettman nears $8 million - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

NHL?s pay to Bettman nears $8 million - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

NHL?s pay to Bettman nears $8 million - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global

FTA: "As part of the tax filing, the NHL also listed its five highest-paid contractors. Of the top five, three were for legal services, totaling $8.8 million: Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher — which represented the NHL when it acquired the Phoenix Coyotes in November 2009 — at $6.08 million"

What's the limit on the number of s in one thread?

 

[awaz]

FTA: "As part of the tax filing, the NHL also listed its five highest-paid contractors. Of the top five, three were for legal services, totaling $8.8 million: Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher — which represented the NHL when it acquired the Phoenix Coyotes in November 2009 — at $6.08 million"

What's the limit on the number of s in one thread?

i have a feeling we're just getting started

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

Word is Charles Wang was at the league offices last week & it had nothing to do with the CBA situation. I know one thing a year without hockey wouldn't hurt Wang. He'd actually save a lot of money & be 1 year closer to leaving the NVMC.

 

[puckhead]

Grange on NHL: Let the negotiations begin - sportsnet.ca

 

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I skimmed through the Grange piece, if he's anywhere close on his guesses for the contents of the NHLPA proposal, it's going to be a long, dark winter as far as NHL hockey is concerned.

 

[puckhead]

As NHL's negotiating committee arrived, one fan yelled: "Hey Gary, are you going to take a pay cut too?"

 

[Comeds]

I skimmed through the Grange piece, if he's anywhere close on his guesses for the contents of the NHLPA proposal, it's going to be a long, dark winter as far as NHL hockey is concerned.

If he is correct there will be no hockey this season. Maybe not next either.

If thats the players 'counter proposal' and they have waited this long to announce it then they are at least as much to blame as the owners for whatever work stoppage is coming up.

 

[Vadered]

If he is correct there will be no hockey this season. Maybe not next either.

If thats the players 'counter proposal' and they have waited this long to announce it then they are at least as much to blame as the owners for whatever work stoppage is coming up.

Exactly. That's the kind of stuff you bring up YEARS before the end of the CBA so you have a chance to convince the other side and then you both have a chance to iron out the details together. Bringing it up a scant 32 days before the deadline? That's absurd. Who on earth is dumb enough to think of doing it 32 days bef-

OF COURSE. COTE.

 

[awaz]

Exactly. That's the kind of stuff you bring up YEARS before the end of the CBA so you have a chance to convince the other side and then you both have a chance to iron out the details together. Bringing it up a scant 32 days before the deadline? That's absurd. Who on earth is dumb enough to think of doing it 32 days bef-

OF COURSE. COTE.

 

[Comeds]

Fehr is a league killer. I understand part of his philosophy that the owners are the problem so why should any part of the CBA deal with protecting them from themselves. However all it takes is one free spending owner to throw off the entire salary structure of the league. Fehr and the players know that. If they want no part of protecting the owners (and teams) from themselves then let the owners meet and draw up rules stating how much they can spend per year on players salaries. Of course they cannot do that because that would be collusion. And the luxury tax system means the owners protect the smaller markets in the NHL by themselves with no help from the players even though those team provide hundreds of jobs for those players.

According to most numbers MLB is much less popular than it was 20 years ago and the and a lot of the blame seems to point to the financial disparity of the league. I know every once in a while a surprise 'have not' team goes deep into the playoffs or even wins it all and the league uses that to state that its system is fine and good. All the while the league can twiddle its thumbs and point to peripheral reasons why the league isn't as popular as it once was. The closest they ever came to admitting there is a problem is there was some talk of a balanced schedule that both players and owners were considering.

If the NHLPA would like the league to be like MLB I hope the owners shut the whole league down.

(end rant, I am pissed off and ranting and I do not even know for sure what the proposal was)

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I think we all knew when the players hired Fehr things were going to get ugly. He's not concerned one bit about going on strike. Fehr will do whatever he believes will get the players the best deal, no matter what.

 

[esls79]

If Vince McHamon was smart, he'd have plans for an 8 team league just in case. And one of thoe teams would be in Vegas.

He'd have a few new rules, like getting rid of formal face offs and instead doing a rugby style scrum, losers of fights would get an extra two minutes, and only one ref and two linesman.

 

[puckhead]

@JeffMarek

NHLPA proposal smartly crafted to position large market teams vs small market teams. Make this an internal owners fight.
Think TOR, PHI, MTL, NYR, BOS etc have an appetite to pay out a quarter of a billion dollars in rev share money annually? Think NASH, FLA, DAL, TB would love to see some of that green?



@reporterchris

I'm told a luxury tax is part of the NHLPA's new proposal. Cap won't move much under the deal, but some teams can go above and others below

 

[Modhnoiri]

NHL?s pay to Bettman nears $8 million - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global

 

[Comeds]

From TSN:

While Fehr did not get into specific line-by-line details of the proposal, he did indicate that the players were willing to take reduced hockey-related revenue for the next three seasons and that it did not suggest the elimination of the league's hard cap.

If in their proposal teams can go over and pay a 'tax' I think that is suggesting a removal of the hard cap.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

i heard bettmans soundbite:

"It's clear to me that they didn't put it together in an hour or two."



/smarmy weasel